WordWolf

There's only 2 Kahless. "Kahless the Unforgettable" was the warrior and General who founded Klingon society as it is now known. He is said to have been a Klingon of impeccable honour, their greatest warrior, and the inventor of the bat'lelth weapon (the "sword of honour" of the Klingons.) To this day (in the shows), some Klingons wait for him to return, just as legends say King Arthur will return. The second Kahless was a clone from the genetic template of the original Kahless. His knowledge is composed of the collected teachings and legends concerning Kahless. He was installed ceremonial emperor of the Klingon Empire. (Think of how the Queen of England can't just set policy.) The political power of the Klingon Empire rests in the Klingon High Council. "Kahless" is there to INSPIRE, to be a visible EXAMPLE to Klingons. These quotes are most certainly from Deep Space 9, but I'm still unable to name it yet. I like the first quote, though. Funny how Sun Tzu's quoted-Picard quoted him as well in NextGen.

I'm giving you first crack at the answer because I think it's only fitting. I'm familiar with the episode, but the reason I made a note of it TO remember the relevant scenes is your own comments on it. So hurry up and broadcast the answer for everyone, unless you want me to take it.....

Actually, Pat, I must make a correction. As you might have noticed, "it" ("the Word of God is our only rule of faith and practice") is not an opinion universally-held here. However, quite a number of people DO hold it, and I'd say more than 1/2 the regular posters are at least comfortable with the doctrine, whether or not they agree with it entirely or mostly. However, it seems that "it" ("the Word of God is our only rule of faith and practice") keeps getting confused-by some people- with "something else" ("the Word of God was TWI's only rule of faith and practice") and the majority of us say that "something else" was proven to be COMPLETELY FALSE, and that twi CLAIMED this (and claims it NOW) while following whatever practice suits the office-holders, who then invoke a semblance of the verses to justify the rules of faith and practice that they've already determined. Generally, so long as one isn't pushing that agenda (or the "vpw never victimized anyone" agenda), this is NOT a "tough crowd."

One thing I DO reject, however, is the casual attempt to lessen the immoral misuse of office done in twi by claiming that "mind control" and manipulation by leadership is the same thing as a sales clerk in a store trying to sell you clothes. No salesperson can invoke fear of disobeying God Almighty if you don't buy the clothes, nor invoke a "standard" you're supposed to live up to, nor scream at you for not buying, nor have you excommunicated from a community ("mark and avoid") for not buying.

Actually, they were a LOT less selective at the last teachings in the Catholic Church that I sat through. Then again, Mark should really be the one to address this subject-if it's worth discussing. Naturally, that should be its OWN thread, since THIS thread is about selective teachings IN TWI. BTW, I'm glad you're not pretending twi didn't do selective teaching- you skipped trying that. I accept your analogy! A clothing salesperson's JOB is to sell clothing, which is their AGENDA. Many are on COMMISSION, which means their UNSTATED AGENDA is to sell you clothing whether or not you need it- to get money from YOUR POCKETS to THEIR POCKETS. I accept that this is akin to how twi operated. Thanks for your assistance-I didn't have such an apt analogy handy at the moment.

*pokes thread* Any hope for another quote, or a clue or something? Might as well throw in some guesses. National Lampoon's "Vacation." "Freaked."

I'm gonna see if Raf chimes in on this one- he's the reason I remember the answer so vividly...

wasway's got it-it's that wascally wabbit. The thing I love from the SECOND quote I used, when he was knighing the Sheriff of Nottingham by hitting him in the head with his scepter at each title... at the end, the Sheriff says, woozily, "Your majesty is too kind", as he stands unsteadily. Bugs makes an aside to the audience. The line: "He's got lots of stamina!" Go, wasway!

You are too kind. I think they'll get it now.... "I bet you know a lot of my friends...Like, uh, Duke of Ellington, Count of Basie, Earl of Hines, Cab of Calloway, Satchmo of Armstrong?" "In the name of my most royal majesty, I knight thee. ARISE, Sir Loin of Beef! ARISE, Earl of Cloves! ARISE, Duke of Brittingham! ARISE, Baron of Munchhausen! ARISE, Essence of Myrrh! Milk of Magnesia! Quarter of Ten!"

I use it to communnicate with people, to exchange knowledge, and to have fun. Often, the fun is in the communication and knowledge exchange.

Edmund Burke. vpw himself taught this on several occasions: "Once people begin to PRACTICE error, after a while, they make a DOCTRINE of it." He said that practical error, if not corrected, leads to doctrinal error.

Hello. Here's my general advice for new people. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=7913 You may perhaps be surprised that many things you were unaware of were in full effect during the 80s. I certainly was. However, the evidence WAS there if I'd known where to look. Many things have been uncovered that twi did their best to bury. Many of us have some good memories of time in twi. However, most of us with good memories of time in twi now have concluded that the good times we had were paid for by horrible things done to some of our brethren in Christ. You were scarred for life? Great-neither was I. However, that does not excuse the crimes performed, and the harms inflicted, which were done in the name of the good we experienced. Also, not everything WE saw was as WE saw it. Many things were done to control the image of twi, and of vpw, and so on. I'd recommend spending some time reading around here, and getting to learn some things that are considered common knowledge around here.

Correct. "Is that all? If she were not dead, I would kill her myself!" ST:TNG managed to put forth "there is no god" in one episode, and "there is intelligent design" in THIS episode. Neat trick, and quite clever. Go, George!

New quote. I bet you know a lot of my friends...Like, uh, Duke of Ellington, Count of Basie, Earl of Hines, Cab of Calloway, Satchmo of Armstrong?"

Fine. Next quote. "He's right. For all we know it might be a recipe for biscuits." "Biscuits? If that is what you believe, then go back to Cardassia. I will send you my mother's recipe."

Hello. My general advice is here: http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=7913 Enjoy your stay.

We discussed Camp Gunnison on " Is There Still A Corps Director?" here... http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=11984

One visit to http://www.biblegateway.com later, I found this: (KJV) Proverbs 12:10. "A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel." (NASB) "A righteous man has regard for the life of his animal, but even the compassion of the wicked is cruel." (NIV) "A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel." (The Message) "Good people are good to their animals; the "good-hearted" bad people kick and abuse them." (NLT) "The godly care for their animals, but the wicked are always cruel." Nicely put. If it was from EITHER, it was from BOTH. If it was from lcm, he was taught it by vpw. He certainly didn't get it growing up as a Baptist. And he had no imagination for himself until he ascended the throne. If it was from vpw, then he taught it to lcm, who passed it along. Hey, since the CORPS were DISPOSABLE to vpw-which he taught to lcm- of course KIDS were disposable too-after all, they took work to maintain/raise.

You know, you could have done another quote or 2 before the "gimme." I suspected it might have been Sanford & Son, but I was waiting for one more quote to make sure. (Plus I don't like to bounce turns between just 2 people, and like to give the others a fair shot...)

No. "Hailing frequencies CLOSED, sir." "My friend Data, you see things with the wonder of a child. And that makes you more human than any of us." "I keep thinking, how empty it will be without her presence. Did I miss the point?" "No... no, you didn't, Data. You got it."

Correct! Roger Moore as James Bond, Christopher Lee as Scaramanga (the Man with the Golden Gun.) Herve Villechaize as Nick-Nack (who is small but never forgets.) The giveaway was Scaramanga's choice of a duel with Bond. Scaramanga's gun only holds one bullet, which is enough if you don't miss... Christopher Lee said once that he was glad they expanded the part. In the book, Scaramanga's just an assassin, but in the movie, he became a classy villain. Go, Raf!

Right series, wrong episode. Something a bit earlier in the series...

The "edited posthumously" books were published by European Christian Press. (This of course was based on twi's "American" Christian Press, which in turn copied Leonard's CANADIAN CHRISTIAN PRESS. ) That included "Living Victoriously", "Our Times", "Take God At His Word" and "Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus." Walter's book under the ACP was "Demonstrating God's Power: Studies in Biblical Accuracy Volume 1." I'm pretty sure JAL's 3 books were also ACP: "Will the Real You Please Stand Up?" "Will the Real You Please Remain Standing?" and "Living in the Eye of the Storm." Due to the editing standards of the time, the first of those 3 books had such memorable lines as "life is fear in the sand of machinery", and "fear is life in the machinery of sand."

Correct! That was Ralph's mantra for not losing his temper that one episode. The soliloquy was from the Christmas episode-I'm surprised people didn't recognize it. Ed excuses himself when Ralph's expecting Alice back in the "Blabbermouth" episode with his comment about a man wanting to be alone. Ralph referenced Bellevue Hosp's famous psychiatric ward a few times. This one was after watching Norton, dressed as Pierre Francois de la Brioski, attempt to inhale snuff (and sneeze his wig clean off.) Go, hiway!