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I think I was there when that happened. Was it around 1974? He was pounding he podium. yeah, he was ....ed that ushers were still ushering. He said something like the devil would destroy the ministry if he weren't around. If it wasn't the time you're talking about, it happened then too.

Oh yeah, I thought of another thing - the book "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koestler was promoted. It's premise is that the Jews of today are not descendants of the 12 tribes but are really from the Kaisers, whose country was located between a Muslim country and a Christian country (as I recall). Their solution was to adopt Judaism in order to avoid political conflict.

We were encouraged to read "The Myth of the Six Million" which as I recall either denied the Holocaust or said fewer died than believed. And I remember Craig yelling about "The Jews" and how they "control everything".

We were also told we can't share anything that happened in the training with anyone outside of it. That's pretty weird now that I think about it. I went to Momentous because someone in my fellowship hounded me into it. I originally didn't want to go. I was seeing a psychiatrist at the time which made me ineligible. But lo and behold it turned out I could (per Tuccini) as long as I wasn't on medication. So I went. I bought into everything that was going on but it kicked me into a manic episode and I ended up in the mental hospital. The group leaders actually came to see me. But there was never any acknowledgment from anyone in my fellowship that Momentous was to blame in any way. John Lynn stated in one of his communications that those that had problems in Momentous was because they "didn't want to face something in themselves" or something to that effect.

I'm still here. Drop in a few times a week to see what I haven't read. Post here and there.

Hi, DWBH! OldSkool mentioned it above, having to do with the R&R thing but I didn't know it was in the hundreds.

Didn't know about Rosie marking a avoiding hundreds of people Smart move if you want their money.

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It was harder to leave if you were Corps. We had a "lifetime commitment." It might have not been any kind of physical restraint but it was psychological. I was subjected to an hour long yelling and blaming fest by the branch leader because I had mentioned to another person that sometimes I felt like leaving, who then ratted on me.

"The difference between a church and a cult is what they do when you try to leave" - Mike Rinder

Ha ha ha! That would be great! I can see it now!

I donated.

Sorry to see the site go, if that is the case. Thanks to Pawtucket for all the hard work. And to the mods. I will miss this site if it goes. Been coming here since 2002 and still check in a few times a week.

If you lived in a limb home with clergy did you have to stand up every time he/she walked in whatever room you might be in?

The machine was broken because you didn't believe enough for a milkshake. (sarc)

love that song!

I remember in residence sometimes we sat and listened to detailed info about the Wierwille family and their history and blah de blah. I was wondering what the heck that had to do with God's Word. Were we about God and His Word or about the Wierwilles? Why were they so special? Didn't we all matter? Aren't we all members of the body of Christ? What a bunch of huey!

WOW - taking the place of the absent Christ!!! Makes me think of the original lie -- Ye shall be as gods. Thank God I don't have to take his place. What a burden. We can't do that! Ridiculous. Haven't thought that way in so long it's hard to believe I ever did.

said so well - truth intertwined with non-truth.. Thus the cognitive dissonance that I experience to this day when trying to sort it all out. I can't explain it to people. If it were something totally off the wall, like we thought we were lizard people from Planet X it would be easier to disavow.

I just wish I'd left sooner.

Thanks for sharing, Becoming Me. It must have been hard growing up that way. God loves us for our "authentic selves". Took me awhile to "become myself" after leaving TWI. But I didn't grow up in it, so it was more like a reclamation. Don't know if you have read The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse but that's a good one.

Becoming Me, I would love to hear your story about growing up in TWI, rambling or otherwise.

$68 million!!$ How utterly totally SELFISH.

TWI isn't a tree. It's a pyramid.

Was that during the big thunderstorm? I thought it was because the devil was so ....ed off at the caliber of the ordainees.