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Hey, can I be a back-up singer? And bring my harmonica? http://www.metacafe.com/watch/sy-14210959/leonard_cohen_closing_time_official_music_video/ "...Yeah I missed you since the place got wrecked By the winds of change and the weeds of sex looks like freedom but it feels like death it's something in between, I guess it's CLOSING TIME ..." Hee, hee - I think that's about another place. Bloody ads.

Thanks for telling your stories, Krys. Real healing and restoration! I haven't read that thread yet, hope to get there this month! I don't expect people to tell their stories, they are so personal, or prove themselves at all, but when you hear a good one at the right time (see, Mr. Squirrel) it can be a happy gift. I don't know where to go myself, was never in the Corps so can't go to their website, but every day is an adventure, what? If I didn't dislike the imperative, I would say "keep on running" or something like that.

Nooooooo! Don't go yet. Go mbeidh a lan laethanta agat fos. Cad a dheanfaidh me feasta! (Just to join in with all the Gaelgoiri.) Starting to feel slightly bereft - I may have met some of you, looked up to you on a stage or something, but am sure I didn't appreciate your complexity then as much as I do here. We weren't encouraged to manifest complexity in public all that much. And I'm still ploughing through the About-the-Way threads, haven't even made it to Doctrine let alone worked myself up to asking any questions I had left afterwards. What a whiner I am - really, I'm just glad that I found the site in time to read anything at all. Hope all goes well for Mr. P-tucket and you all (to be efficient in posting, just in case.)

I haven't been around too long but I have learned a lot and will miss it and thank you very much. I did wonder how you managed to manage it so well, can't believe anyone kicked you.

Thanks for telling that inspiring story. I don't remember an identical, but I can remember things of similar importance to me, often when I'm outside and unwound (go this way, ask them), but regularly it's when I'm frazzled and rushing that I'm helped hugely (check that work once more). Edited to add: No, orders make me get stubborn, it's more of a "let's for fun do this" or "wouldn't it be a good idea to do this."

Whether or not they're unhealthy, I think that certain types are definitely attracted to leadership. I used to mention personality sometimes, when trying to explain some person-person issue, and my "elders" would usually dismiss that idea - we were supposed to love everyone, listen to everyone, we all have the same spirit etc. That didn't convince me that personality doesn't matter, especially when it came to the verses that people would latch onto and use to teach/confront other types. Confronting - that reminds me of when a Bigwig from HQ told a group of European men that they were wimps. I sort of admired this person but it bothered me, of course, and was one of those things that I put away for pondering. Later I decided that it was just that he was one of those energetic, forceful people who expects others to want to be like that. That "slim just walked out the door" made me laugh too - must remember that.

The Kirsty McColl above was for fun, not that I'm saying anyone is pretending to be Elvis (just in cases). This is for when you think about your youth (very sweet). I like Waysider's boogie song, and it's fun to see the Who - have been learning in the Cafe that there's a lot of good stuff on YouTube, thanks.

Chips and grease go together.

Thanks for replying! How nice to have a dragon. The "c" is always hard in Irish also - I knew a Ciaran who changed to a K-spelling when he went abroad because of that - but I'd figured something had been anglicised. Speaking of which, Twinky, I'm wondering if your B was the legend originally from NI, not that I need to know right now!

According to my dictionary, it's a word of Scandinavian origin - that's interesting.

Hello there. I haven't posted much but people have been kind and I've been reading a lot and have seen your name. This is a picturesque thread! I suppose I could google it, but I'm wondering what a Welsh kilt is like (is it called a "pilt" there - is kilt even a Q-Gaelic word - so many things to look up).

You're very kind, what a treat. I was off reading threads and hadn't looked for it yet. I wish you pancakes for your tummy and nuts for your storehouse.

I'm laughing my head off - thanks for that. Wonder if I could find Victor Borge and the Baby Orchestra.

Sorry, me too, and I knew it, sort of! And now I am again but will stop. Thanks, Broken Arrow. I'm still trawling through the volumes here and looking forward to more.

I have a great fondness for those boys (and I didn't even spell their name correctly, maybe a good thing?). I don't think it's a weird thought that you had. On one hand, songs about old stories or English schooldays or the streets of New York are about the human condition, where the more things change etc. On the other hand, God is interested in the human condition. There are so many poems and writings but it's easier to remember the words of songs. I was just about to write, I wonder if anyone has put Ecclesiastes to music?, and then I remembered The Byrds, The Byrds! Remember years ago, how THEY used to say that feelings didn't matter, happiness didn't matter (joy was the thing). How else do you remember your life as you look back? Then later happiness equaled being blessed or content - at least that's what I picked up -and was OK.

I was thinking, if I was like Waysider I'd find a link to Horlips' "The Rocks Remain," and guess what came up when I googled: Learning how to paste links. Oh, it's not a video, sorry - that would have been fun.

Ha, ha, I thought about writing "oh, I hate that," but I don't, it's just too overused and not something I'm comfortable saying so easily, so I'd always feel in debt somehow to the person who rattled it off as an alternative to "good-bye." I often think now that I should have asked people exactly what they meant when those phrases rolled out. At a time in my life when I got too close to trouble, the line about being "broken bread for people" came into my head, and I wondered if this miserable condition was what they meant. How mad was that. Not that I'm blaming the person who said it in a teaching, it probably meant something entirely different to him. I suppose it would have been annoying if everyone questioned every use of these cliches. Still, does anyone have any idea what the standard use of this meant - why would anyone have to be "broken bread" again, even in a figure?

All I know is, I'm averse to anyone teaching "most people do this (stupid or evil thing), not us." Whether or not what they say is factual (and so many times I've sat there thinking "that's not true"), it bothers me. I don't need to be told stuff like that in order to believe that God loves me. I've heard none of that kind of comparison when I've gone to various functions at Catholic or other churches over the years. I think that if we're judging, then we're not content and peaceful - is that unbiblical and too yoga-ish?

Thank you very much, socks, sunesis, et al. That was very helpful - useful and beautiful.

Sorry if this is not quite related, but I'm newish and reading when I can and wanting to say hello every now and again. What is stunning to me, and sort of ironic, is how much the descriptions of the later TWI make me think of the former East Germany or of China, their having people "tell" on each other and making people report their movements, etc, and it's made me wonder - is it just really difficult in general for people to accept others' equality? "Animal Farm" comes into my head as well, if I'm remembering it correctly, the idea of some being "more equal than others" and empowered to order the others around for their own good.

Teach me, why couldn't he say it? It is also believed that verse 16 is part of the narrative, the story that was written later, not something actually spoken by him at the time.

The above was to teachme. Ham, I like some Yes songs very much. Their song "wondrous stories" brings me back to the time when I was taking "the class" and I was young and so much was exciting and Yes was on the radio at home and "Bright and Morning Star" (title?) was played in the class room.

I'm back to say that I meant "life" threads. I haven't ventured much into the Doctrine threads, but those that have come up in word searches have left me completely chastened for picking on singular/plural spellings above when all you people can write so well about the important things that I can barely approach thinking about. I do get asked at times to read material for people on subjects that I know more about, to find spelling mistakes etc, and I know very well that it's a lot easier to see other peoples' motes than your own beams. Very sorry if I offended anyone.

Teach me, I'm butting back in here and being off-topic - I still haven't read your heart posts - but I forgot to say before that I think you're way above my head on those nouns and verbs, because you can turn them into poetry, and the lines below your posts, the last in line and the butterfly, what are those? They're very touching. A more mathmatical question, what's the -5 in the cafe?

How horrible is it that when you're already upset at the death of someone that you have to brace yourself before you tell those others, who claim to be closer than family and friends, knowing that condemnation of you or someone you love will be their first reaction. Maybe you'll tell yourself that they're afraid and that makes them angry and wanting to blame, but how cruel that you have to put up with that sick behavior on top of everything else. I'm so sorry that this happened to so many and am feeling an old shaky anger in my stomach that people were treated like this.