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I'm sorry you didn't bring your glasses with you, Mike, but please re-read what I wrote before you deliberately and falsely misrepresent me as readily as you deliberately and falsely misrepresent God and Christ. I said you do this to every other thread YOU'RE ON. I didn't say you did it to every thread. On to Mordor!

Why not? You do it to every other thread you're on. How about: "Rehashing the Crap Mike's Been Trying to Pitch Even Though It's Been Debunked More Times Than We Can Count."

Excellent work, guys.

Enjoy the day, Garth! 30 again!

"But to you that hear I say, Love your enemies; do good to those that hate you..." Hmm, whom to heed? Oldiesman or Christ? Tough call.

Wow, so today is the last day of the Greasespot Cafe we've known for so long! The place is gettin renervated! It's about time. The vinyl seats have more tears than an Englishman after a werewolf attack. New coffeepots?

Hannibal ?

Category 5 now. Go, Texas!!!

Crippled Jet Lands Safely at L.A. Airport Sep 21 9:24 PM US/Eastern LOS ANGELES A JetBlue airliner with its front landing gear stuck sideways safely landed Wednesday, balancing on its back wheels as it slowed on the runway at Los Angeles International Airport. Did any of you see it? It was on CNN. Awesome. We all applauded like mad when we saw it.

Bill, Not everyone on this board is a Christian, and not every Christian on this board agrees with you on the proper application of the Sermon on the Mount in this particular case. Shameless plug alert: Take a look at issue 3. You may be asked for a username and password when you click on that link. Just hit cancel, and the Microsoft Word document will pop up.

While we KEEP WAITING for Tom, here's an easy one:

What's wrong with Kenyon? First off, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with him. I'm saying that he's not terribly respected in mainstream Christianity. The big reason for this is that he's considered the founder of the "word-faith" movement, something TWI is very much a part of. Anyone who teaches "law of believing" type doctrine is a part of that movement. In addition to Wierwille, who plagiarized Kenyon, this includes Kenneth Hagin, who plagiarized Kenyon, and Kenneth Copeland, who plagiarized Kenyon. Here's some criticism of Kenyon: http://www.equip.org/free/DC755-1.htm Sound familiar? "Confession of believe yields receipt of confession" anyone? Believing equals receiving? http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/word-faith2.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=glance&s=books

Good luck, Texas!

Your turn, Tom!

That was you?

Amen. And OJ did it. His acquittal is interesting to look at, though, isn't it. I could talk to the OJ jurors and argue with them until I'm blue in the face. But OJ did it.

Let's put it this way: I do not believe in the Trinity. If I were to write about the subject, would I, of necessity, need to write about Wierwille or about my experience as a JW? Not necessarily, no more than I would have to credit someone if I were to say "Salvation comes by faith in Jesus Christ, according to Billy Graham." Oldiesman, what Wierwille did was plagiarism. Not EVERYTHING he wrote was plagiarized. But PLENTY of what he wrote was plagiarized. There's a difference. You and I both know he plagiarized (not "adopted the beliefs of") Kenyon, Bullinger, Stiles, and BG Leonard. Those four are so easily documented that you're in simple denial if you don't acknowledge it (even if you feel the plagiarism was justified by God's instruction, you're admitting it was plagiarism; you're just not admitting there's anything wrong with it).

My e-mail address is now updated. I didn't realize I had an old address up there!

3,000 posts? Amateur.

Bachelor Party!

Calvary Chapel, Fort Lauderdale

The Badge of the Yeller Party? Never heard of it.

Oakspear! Don't you have something better to do?

Badge/Security/Police/ Old/Yellow Party?

Kenyon is NOT very respected in mainstream Christian circles, Oldiesman. Bullinger is a bit more respected. Stiles isn't even on the radar. On the other hand, I wouldn't say Wierwille "stole" the idea of 7 administrations from Bullinger. If you accept dispensationalism and adopt the belief, then you adopt the belief. It's not stealing. A good chunk of the chapter on The Counsel of the Lord was stolen from Bullinger, in that it was word for word taken from Bullinger's writing without credit. But that's different from dispensationalism.