False Accusations against TWI

[Georgio Jessio]

When I was 'in' I remember many instances where the media , ex members and other anti way types made false accusations against TWI. With all that was wrong , it's amazing that bad stuff would get made up. But it did.

I remember once TWI was in the paper and it said that TWI childern were so hungry they ate out of garbage cans. In fact what it was, was brand new metal bin full of Ice and cans of soda. The paper ran a picture of a child picking thru "the trash".

I also heard allegations of TWI stockpiling weapons. While it's true that I did fire my first weapon while in residence, I hardly think it qualified as stockpiling weapons. We were going deer hunting.

Just curious if any other false accusations that come to mind?

Glow-ry!

[oldiesman]

You need to speak in tongues in order to get saved.

[templelady]

I'm sure that false accusations were made against TWI. THere are always people about who are willing to say things that they percieve to be to their own advantage the truth not withstanding.

On the other hand there are so many allegations that are the truth with more coming to light each day.

Which just proves that one can never take anything at face value.

Making false accustation about TWI, or any other organizaion, just makes it easier for true problems to be swept under the rug

Mo

(who used to be Maure)

[Mister P-Mosh]

I knew people on welfare in TWI, and I wouldn't doubt that there were bad parents there who would have their kids eating from the garbage. While I wouldn't blame TWI for that, it could technically be true.

As far as the stockpiling thing goes, I know of individuals that did and still do that kind of thing, believing that the government is going to fight them and whatnot. That also is an individual thing, since TWI draws in the insane as well as it does anyone else.

Also, I read about where people were saying VPW was trying to get people to stockpile weapons and train for an invasion by communists or something like that, but I don't remember the details.

[excathedra]

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TWI draws in the insane as well as it does anyone else.

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i think they do it better ;)-->

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[IMF777]

You may want to read the interview with Officer Mark Roggeman and his knowledge of TWI alleged purchase of 500 assault rifles from a Gunnison gun dealer before you label things a false accusation....

http://www.excultworld.com/interviews/Mark%20Roggeman.htm

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Edited February 26, 2004 by Guest

[oldiesman]

I've heard lots of statements "I believe" are false accusations, but others disagree.

[excathedra]

you're kidding

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[Georgio Jessio]

I will read the article about the guns. Nothing would surprise me. I just know that things get blown out of proportion.

Belive me I have plenty on TWI that I KNOW is true.

There were rumours of orgies, that as a kid I thought were lies. But guess what I saw?

Yup.

Glow-ry!

[excathedra]

i know georgio the facts are plenty enough

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[Tom Strange]

Georgio! don't be expecting OM to believe that unless you've got video.

(and if you do have video, can I borrow it?)

I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

[excathedra]

please no video on that other factual tidbit your brought up before, dr. strangelove

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[Raf]

I used to think it was a false accusation that TWI placed Wierwille's writings above the scriptures. Imagine that. Who would be so stupid as to place Wierwille's writings above the scriptures? I mean, only a total maroon would do such a thing, right? Right?

[Bob]

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Originally posted by Georgio Jessio:

There were rumours of orgies, that as a kid I thought were lies. But guess what I saw?

Yup.

Glow-ry!

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Fess up. What did you see?

[excathedra]

and don't forget

all of life is in the details

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[Goey]

Here's one,

I read on one anti-cult web site that TWI/VPW taught that God had sex with Mary in order to conceive Jesus.

Goey

"Most of my fondest memories in TWI never really happened"

[excathedra]

well ummmmmmm

they got a little bit of the stowry mixed up

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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[johniam]

I heard something once about VPW standing in the middle of a cornfield in his underwear and then he gave the signal and girls from both sides ran at him or something. Sounds like some very bored New Knoxville residents and their own fantasies.

[excathedra]

fantasy ? more like a nightmare

and johnyam nk would be highly offended

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[oldiesman]

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I used to think it was a false accusation that TWI placed Wierwille's writings above the scriptures. Imagine that. Who would be so stupid as to place Wierwille's writings above the scriptures? I mean, only a total maroon would do such a thing, right? Right?

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Good point Raf.

[oldiesman]

The Way denies "salvation by grace"

CARM, line 3 "doctrines"

Edited February 27, 2004 by Guest

[oldiesman]

Here's the page that Goey mentioned:

"...there was literally physical sexual intercourse between The Holy Spirit and Mary..."

Look Under "Reinterpretation of the Bible"

Edited February 27, 2004 by Guest

[Lifted Up]

He made it rather plain at ROA 1976...and this was on the album of the same...when he recited Ephesians 6:10 as "Finally, my bretheren, be strong in V. P. Wierwille", then when the crowd yelled out "no", he demanded to hear a louder "no".

[Tom Strange]

I do like their line:

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The people in The Way International need to be prayed for and given the same consideration and politeness anyone lost in deception should receive.

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Where is the prayer meeting at?

I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

[Tom Strange]

And about the Ghost and Mary getting it on... I gotta go with your line on that one OM, "I never heard that"...

...although there were many times that I nodded off during classes or meetings...

I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

Edited February 27, 2004 by Guest