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This thread is a perfect place to refer people to my interview--in two parts--with an eye-witness on this topic of VPW's plagiarism. BTW, the link was posted in another thread right after I published the interviews on my website. Click here.

This falls into the category of "been discussed ad nauseum." Many people have tried. No linguist who has ever studied SIT has actually identified a language produced. A number have concluded "this sounds like it might be..." but no follow up was ever done to nail it down. Important to note: they did not "study" it. They listened to a sample and expressed their initial thoughts. So "never" is accurate, but it doesn't quite go far enough for us doubters. That said (as I mentioned in another thread), you really have a serious burden of proof issue here that has to be addressed: Do I have to prove what you're producing is not a language, or do YOU have to prove it is? Technically, the answer is neither. You can be speaking in tongues and I have a trained linguist who carefully takes notes, studies your output for a year, can't find a language and, in the end, reaches the conclusion that he/she cannot say with any certainty that a language was produced. That's the problem on my side: I can NEVER prove to YOUR satisfaction that what YOU are producing is NOT a language. BUT!!!!!!!!! You can prove to my satisfaction that it is. Fine, we can't identify yours? We have 100,000 other people who have been through PFAL as of 1988. Surely ONE of them can produce an identifiable language in front of an objective linguist. Any takers? No? It only takes ONE PERSON producing ONE LANGUAGE to demonstrate that there is something supernatural taking place. ONE. Nope. Not one. No one's ever done it. In THAT sense, "never" is absolutely accurate.

It’s David, not Dave. He has silver-gray hair in his profile photo with an open bible in the background.

For, yea, God loveth a cheerful moocher.

Here is what I remember........ Someone in the 6th corps told wierwille that the five-pointed star had connotations to witchcraft symbolism......and remember, the 6th corps was when the corps numbers rocketed upwards to near 330 at the Emporia Campus (the 5th corps was only 75 or so). Anyways, Christ0pher Br00ks (6th corps) and a couple of others got together and pitched their new-logo efforts to wierwille. Add some double borders, oak leaves, etc......and presto, new-improved corps logo with the five gift ministries (in Ephesians, no less --- lol) to border the pentagon logo. Wierwille, the man who was high on marketing, low on results.....sanctioned it. Even though it removed the "C" (Christ in the center of the logo)......it symbolized the church epistles, the gift ministries.....and thus, wierwille's corps program (cough, cough). IMO......it highlighted wierwille in all his arrogant glory. It displaced Christ and elevated wierwille's "disciples-in-the-making".......duly noted as corps grads. YET.....where were those illustrious apostles? prophets? evangelists? pastors? and teachers?........who graduated from the corps program? This logo was changed in 1980 or thereabouts.......and yet, no one ever breathed the spiritual air that wierwille did. NONE. To even voice it out loud was blasphemous........in cult world. Some of the zealots really thought that wierwille was gifted with all five ministries......he WAS an apostle, prophet, etc. After all, he was "the man of gawd" for the whole world. Splash the marketing around.........and the cult reinvents itself, over and over again. Twi Manipulation by Inference