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Fascinating…I noticed you did something similar on the NT canon thread – when I commented that your literary structure idea sounded a lot like Bullinger’s - you went on about finding it on your own and impressing the hell out of Walter when you showed it to him… …if I didn’t know better it seems like you’re wanting to distance yourself from being associated with wierwille and Bullinger. Like that baloney of someone saying to wierwille you teach like Bullinger writes… ...it’s more like wierwille writes like Xerox copies. if it smells like wierwille's baloney...looks like wierwille's baloney...even though someone changed the product label on the outside...it's probably still wierwille's baloney

How odd you didn’t do that - but I did in mentioning all 3 accounts of Paul’s conversion in my previous post. Is it just my imagination or do you think you’re authorized to place limits on what the risen Christ can and cannot do? Reminds me of wierwille’s pontificating about what God can and cannot do. If the Lord Jesus Christ is transcendent AND immanent I think He can do whatever He wants and physically appear however He wants whenever He wants. FYI : I’m not interested in wierwille’s idea of a little god who answers to our beck and call and an absent savior.

The Allen's tried that route, that I know for sure. Before it blew up publicly they tried to meet with Craig but apparently that didn't go as planned and their only recourse was the courts. That meeting was the one that happened in the conference room next to computer services when Craig had linder show up with a holstered gun. The Allen's weren't given much of a choice.

Twinky, thank you for spelling out how coercive control works. It is critical to understanding the terrible and inexcusable sex abuse by TWI leaders and other sorts of leaders around the world.

Bolshevik, have you heard of "coercive control"? It can include where the victim (and yes, there is a victim) feels compelled to perform certain acts by a person in some sort of trusted, or superior, position. Examples: a husband beating his wife, or restricting her access to money; a boss requiring sexual favors of an employee; teachers/pupils and so on. Can include doctors, clergymen, and other professionals abusing their professional responsibilities. You must surely be aware of the amount of coercion at TWI HQ. Some is fairly subtle and some is blatantly overt, with lots of shade in between. LCM coerced Mrs A, and other women. It's abuse, pure and simple. An offence against the women, their husbands, and against God. It's no different from the records in 1 Sam. And I very much doubt God's opinion has changed in the last 3,000 or so years, such as to condone such behavior.