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Idiot? Uh-oh. You could have made that clear. You didn’t quote OldSkool. You didn’t press that simple quote button. How would one know? You made a post without context on a thread that seems to have no context. Like it or not, discern it or not, this thread belongs to Roy, and Roy alone. Posting as you did is like holding him down and dropping a deuce on his chest. Leave. Him. Alone.

See here's where you lose your audience, Mike. You make a statement like this and then fail to provide your rationale or provide examples. This is a statement of your opinion. That's perfectly fine. Everyone has opinions. Add some weight to your opinion by telling us how you arrived at it.

He's too important..he has to tend to atom smashing, trolling internet forums, hassling kids on Facebook, tagging along as a mascot for appearances sake in his neuroscience group, and especially mentally short circuiting from irrefutable evidence he refuses to watch/read/or acknowledge. He's a busy guy.

Run, rabbit run, Mike always has to go tend to his universe when irrefutable evidence is presented that wierwille and twi we're/are fakes. Intellectual dishonesty, plus his brain seems to clamp shut in the face of disagreement.

I figure as much. This isn't about how imperfect are the original collaterals. This is about did The Way change the God breathed collaterals to suit their purpose. Once again, you're wasting our time and being intellectually dishonest.

Your point is well taken. I will watch out for him.

I never said it was in the collaterals, I put it out there as a bullshonta story that wierwille fabricated to prove he was some great one....if the man lied that big on that point alone, according to wierwille's own logic, he is lying about everything else...remember if the Bible fails on just one point the rest is trash? By his own words.

Hes trying to do what he accuse others of...that gotcha thing...Oldskool wont waste his time providing a track changes list to show the collaterals have been edited half to death so it all must be a lie...not gonna work.

Im not playing along...your tactics are completely transparent...why on eart would I waste time putting anything together for you. Your an internet troll who is trolling a forum board of peole who have been damaged by the way international, an abusive cult founded by victor paul wierwille, why on earth would I spend any time on your requests.

MIke -- to be clear Ive wasted enough time messing with you on GSC. Ive seen you drag out topics, make them off topic, disregard evidence, change your position, change word definitions, change history, change scripture meaning, change reality so your cognitive dissonance is at a comfortable level and all so you can uphold wierwille. That's what I mean by intellectual dishonesty. And you have been posting here for 20 years and now you are acting like nobody has ever pointed out errors in the collaterals? That's you moving the goal posts...more intellectual dishonesty...Mike I was a leader in the same cult..I know all the tactics...you are completely transparent to me in your goals to bring pflap to GSC so you can convert us back into the same trap you are mired in. Im not interested and Im not wasting time on your homework assignments...plus I gave you enough material in that link on the bluebook if you really want to get into the collaterals start there.

Just putting it out there - “snapped” is usually a term in conversation that refers to a psychotic break of some kind. Not sure if that is a great analogy to talk about the new birth in. Just a thought.

Two clowns and a dairy cow. That cocks her head like a spaniel.

Right as in spiritual clusterf*ck referring to TWI HQ.

Mike on another thread is determined that we should see him as "empathetic." Right. Really. What's empathy? Empathy is the capacity to understand or feel what another person is experiencing from within their frame of reference, that is, the capacity to place oneself in another's position.[1] Definitions of empathy encompass a broad range of social, cognitive, and emotional processes primarily concerned with understanding others (and others' emotions in particular). Types of empathy include cognitive empathy, emotional (or affective) empathy, somatic empathy, and spiritual empathy.[2][3][4] [Wikipedia] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy (In nice big font, Mike, so that you can't miss it.) The article is lengthy, so it may take you some time to read, but you may learn quite a lot from it. Here's another much shorter article. Please read it, Mike. And carefully watch the video at the end (and learn from it). https://takealtus.com/2020/06/empathy-1/ Why is that relevant to this thread? Because Mike persists in shrieking about "Nazi Corps" without ever thinking about how much some people have given to enter the Corps program; what it has cost them physically, emotionally, in relationships; in other opportunities. Without doubt everyone tried their best to do the program as directed. Unfortunately, that included being stomped on from great height, repeatedly, for the most minor infractions - and for that same behaviour to be mimicked by trainees (in rez Corps). The joy of service and the enthusiasm for service was crushed nearly out of existence, for many of the "Nazi Corps." And who "Nazi'd" them? The man who set up the program. So in condemning "Nazi Corps" Mike is, in effect, condemning VPW, the man who had empathy for none and understood none who had empathy for others. Now he has a different target in his sights: Charlene. Charlene, who as a young woman, heard the word and received it with joy. It filled her heart with enthusiasm and she wanted more and more of it. In Mikeology, she "snapped." Because she didn't hang around for 20 years "thinking about it" before she made a decision to follow the Lord (except, unfortunately, it wasn't the Lord but the Liar that she followed). Mike condemns her for this. She was too hasty. I wonder what he knows of her circumstances, that made this choice attractive to her? Where's his empathy for Charlene? Did I miss something? Mike, how long did the first disciples take before they joined Jesus on his mission? Did they take 20 years? Or did they hear, make a quick decision, and leave their nets and follow him? Gave up their businesses and their previous lives, and went with someone they'd come to trust because he spoke of the God they longed to know? Did they "snap," too? What about Lydia in Acts 16? She immediately received the word and set about witnessing to others, her whole household, and wanted Paul to stay with her. Did she "snap"? Paul writes very well of her later and she did much to fund his ministry. What about the jailor that Paul and Silas witnessed to when they were falsely imprisoned? Verse 34 tells us "The jailer brought them into his house and set a meal before them; he was filled with joy because he had come to believe in God—he and his whole household." Did the jailor "snap"? There are many records in the book of Acts where it appears people were able to make a quick and lifechanging decision to follow the Lord. Mike, just because you can't make a quick decision, doesn't mean that you have any right to condemn those who did. And just because you have zero empathy for anyone else, doesn't give you any right to condemn or criticise anyone else. Go walk in someone else's shoes for days, weeks, months, or even 20 years. Come back and tell us if you learned anything.