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Now there’s a man who truly understands the robot dance. Is it irony that the topic is “renewed mind” while the motion depicts a brainwashed state?

Even JAL noticed that- for something supposedly explaining spiritual stuff- it has time for 2 hours of fluff but nowhere in the production is JESUS CHRIST himself invited to be a part of things. Who is the powerful one protecting the younger Christians? It's not JC, it's lcm himself- who is specifically representing ministers. As for myself, I'd like to point out that our side looks woefully underpowered- because we're poorly represented. Who fights devils directly? Obviously, ANGELS do- but none of them were invited to take part. So, when the human servants of evil show up- "the seed of the serpent"- that should have been the moment for the Christians to face off, but they were improperly matched against devils. So, a sub-category of Christians is sliced off- ministers- and assigned a task for which they were never designated to perform, facing off against humans- as well as acting as "elite Christians"- as if they were on a higher plateau than the rest of us. If you pause the video at just the right moment, you can actually see lcm with all the Christians PATTING HIM ON THE BACK at the same time. AND Jesus is never represented. The "Gathering Together"(Rapture) is depicted, and Jesus STILL is not mentioned- even though he's supposed to be critical and central to that moment. Although supposedly meant to communicate something, it misses the mark, fundamentally, many times. The entire doctrine of "seed of the serpent", obviously, is error- and is a twi, home-grown error so naturally it's central to the error-ridden tableau. The only thing worth any effort, IMHO, was the narrator reading the expository blocks on the devil and God Almighty- primarily because it's the one time in the entire production where the Bible takes center stage, however fleetingly. THAT could have been accomplished without the rest of the production and saved a LOT of time and error- but then lcm would not have had a chance to make things even MORE about himself.

Maybe used bookstores have it. I checked Thriftbooks but it's temporarily out. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-end-of-biblical-studies_hector-avalos/1416702/?resultid=8e764add-041d-40c4-a0e5-ba8d9d9e1ed3#edition=5687681

Creeepy YES!

Right!! Creeepy no? And we feed our children this sor of thing....

Well, ya know, it's spirchal, so it's more like Astroboy. Go! Go! Go! Astroboy!

Hey penworks, I’m not brainwashed…. brainwashed….. brainwashed. Now when you read that sentence you also have to supply the visuals of a guy doing the robot dance. Or it doesn’t have the full impact.

Hey Logic nice post. OMG this took me back to college and the first time I took PFAL. I also was in a college writing class and tried to use logic about “keys to the Words interpretation” to explain my logic and told the professor I wrote using “figures of speech”. He gave me a D for that paper and told me my logic wasn’t as good as I thought it was. LMFAO! I did pull the grade up to an A by taking his advice and listening and following directions on writing assignments. That was very difficult. Since then unlike penworks my writing has vastly degraded over time and devolved into a more informal exchange of ideas as on this forum. Except for this one period of time I wrote and published a book and contributed as an author on two more. That was more like dental extraction. The topic is not anything Way related. As an author I have the potential to make about $1.50 an hour from calculations. And my favorite quote about being an author is from someone I don’t remember. ”I love deadlines. I love the swooshing sound they make as they go by”. Welcome to the cafe and have a coffee and scone on the house.

Speaking of cherry picking definitions, what would happen if folks just quit doing "word studies" and let words sit in their own context where you can see how they are used? For those seriously interested in a radical change regarding "biblical studies," one enlightening book is The End of Biblical Studies by Victor Avalos. Give it a try. It shows how Bible companies keep the cycle going, and much more.

This is why "word studies" can be the bane of understanding. You can't simply substitute one word for another like deciphering a code. It's why you sometimes find product instructions that have been translated with laughably disastrous results. To further complicate the matter, spoken languages often differ from written languages, sometimes in profound ways that can only be understood in light of cultural nuances. I think, in some ways, what we did with these study aids is a bit like what people do today when they use the internet to self-diagnose a medical condition...sometimes correctly, often times not. Knowledge is a deadly friend If no one sets the rules The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools.... "Epitaph" (Peter Sinfield)

Glad to hear Undertow helped you, Logicisgreatstuff. Your generation of Wayfers is near and dear to my heart, since my daughter was 12 years old when we escaped HQ. She reminds me that I said over and over that I wrote Undertow for your generation, since most (certainly not all) in mine were/are too brainwashed to consider reading it. By the way, logic, too, is near and dear to my heart. One of my favorite college courses post-TWI was Symbolic Logic. Cheers!

Definately a relevant point. Folks in TWI, and I was no exception, love cherry picking definitions from these resources to suit their narrative.

Just came back to add some more comments, and wow, look at all the nice replies. Thanks everybody, that means a lot. I checked this place out years ago — but didn't really, until recently reading Penworks's book, and only lurked off and on since then. I have procrastinated tremendously (sorry) on adding a 'new members' intro, should probably do that one day soon. I just had to say something on the topic, as it is one of my greatest pet peeves! (Leaving aside for a moment the matter of wooden spoons.) Anyway, I was only going to add a sarcastic remark along these lines: A wonderful recipe for lasting psychological damage, indeed. It is nice though to be on the other side, I've been gone a long time, life is good now, etc. Reading the memoir did make me suspect there's still some recovering to do. Your writing has helped me, it would be nice to do that for someone else.