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Raf: yes, it belongs in "Questioning Faith". This thread was very good but also a very long read (alot of tit-for-tat). It is/was not my intent to re-introduce it for discussion, I think everything had been said (at nasum); I did though just hafta throw in my 2 cents about the "Red Thread" which one poster had done already and that was also my take as well, it's also my opion of the matter when it comes to the gnostic issue. I just recently had read something on John 1:1 that related that verse to gnostitism (it that's a word) - it was from John Schoenheit (no intent to advertise, just stating the source). Additionally, and this was not the prime intent, point out some of the inconsistencies of the forum protocol: in hind sight, it's probably a very moot point given the 11 years of progress and am aware of some of the belief changes. I do maintain my statement on the stances you and WordWolf took at the time to bring some civility into the banter and that, in so many ways, you both continue to do to this day. Why be embarrassed, it was quite obvious how you got drawn into the frey and as we all know, after 11 years, we pick our battles with more discretion. What Mike wars, I don't know what it the world you are talking about.

Ah, the Mike wars...good times, good times...hahahahahahaha!

One more thing, MRAP.... At some point, it may dawn on you that being a disciple of Christ will do FAR MORE than a twig leader [why do you capitalize "Twig" and not question it, yet you question capitalizing the word "corps?"]. Interesting, isn't it? And, here at Greasespot, we help each other to spot the *blind spots* in the seductive world of twi's indoctrination. Regaining critical thinking is a beautiful thing. Glad to help. Have a good day. .

I read the syllabus and decided not to take the advanced class. Actually, I only took one other class - maybe christian family and sex? IDK. I think it was because I remember thinking how ironic it was that they tried to keep me from bringing my nursing baby.

Possibly because, unlike most of us, you actually were in THE Corps.

Not only have we changed in those 11 years, the internet, in general, has changed. Social media has changed. On-line behaviors have changed. And, best of all, TWI has changed. It's shriveled up and become an insignificant player in the greater scheme of religion, due, in part, to people who have had the audacity to tell "the other side of the story".

Corps = corpse. Wierwille = corpse.

The last post on this thread was eleven years ago. Suffice it to say, MY position has changed since then.

Why I personally reject the Bible is simply because it's the easiest case to make. Rather than spend endless hours trying to develop a plausible spin to explain why an all-knowing, all-powerful, omnipresent God did all the apparently evil things mentioned in the O.T., isn't it a whole bunch easier to swallow that the book is simple a collection of myths? You don't have to explain the genocide and cruelty of the O.T. god. You don't have to come up with an explanation for why bad things happen to good (i.e. Christian) people today. Children born with horrible defects, untimely deaths, wars, famine, pestilence, and just sorrow in general, become quite easy to explain when the Bible is regarded as simply what it appears to be. A collection of stories of a primitive, ignorant, and superstitious people. The trouble happens when somebody baptises the book "Holy" and then all the excuses (and arguments) start. Why bother? I mean, REALLY...