Ham

This is a clip of one of the scenes, which unfortunately found itself on the cutting room floor..

I can understand their frame of thought here.. Assuming someone COULD crack open their airtight, hermetically sealed, whitewashed casket in a cornfield.. I think about the only anwers one would get would not be much different than what some of Hitler's henchmen gave- "I'm NOT responsable. I was just followin da orders.." Yep.. they've got some pretty nasty brew to chug down..

One of the best cat quotes I've heard: "Meeeeoooww". You can take the cat's word for it..

You could use distilled water.. it's pretty sterile to begin with. Shouldn't have the common bacteria in it that the article suggested about tap water.

For a little more information, look here: http://empirenet.com/~messiah7/ I think a lot of us have only seen the links to the cult stuff about der vey and momentus on his website. He's a full time pastor at this church, and appears to be involved in his community. I would agree that the cult research is a small part of his work. I've labeled a lot of ministers, and ex way as "sycophants".. I can't hang that on Juedes.

I kinda thought it looked like Michaelangelo's David.. more properly atired, of course.. They couldn't have a likeness of the loyster running amock with no clothes, could they?

Annam, I haven't seen this properly addressed: Or this: Only thing I can say for twi, is by the time they concede, or are forced to come out of their little hole and deal with the people they've harmed.. they're gonna have some pretty rancid "coffee" to drink. I'm not so sure it will really be "coffee" if some people here have anything to say about it.. I'm not heartless, I wouldn't serve it cold.. Honestly, I think this "brew" is mostly of twi's own making.. maybe you ought to talk to the chef about the quality of the coffee..

If there was, my cousin in Punxutawney would probably call for another seventy weeks of winter..

May the force be with Squirrels, always..

when the value of another human being does not depend on the likelihood or not of them taking "the bestest bible class since the apostle Paul first baked bread.."

Here is his answer as I see it, from his website: http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/ltr_quwhycritc.htm

I dunno.. yeah lets see.. the thing of it is, despite hooping and hollering by the other innies, along with high praise that is the best thing since the apostle Paul first baked bread.. I think the product really is over-rated. Wait till they ask you, "well, whadya think? (hopefully something positive, nudge, nudge, wink wink..)" Say, "well, I've had better.." and see what reaction you get.. If you want to explore the doctrine, why not study those who present it? I don't know if they still have "listening with a purpose" or some such nonsense.. why not give the wrong answers when they request you to regurgitate their material? I think you just may see subtle Pavlovian conditioning to become not so subtle..

The idea that "we don't think, we read what's written" may sound noble, godly.. but I think it is another one of the one-liners that passed into vey vocabulary, because so many of us refused to think.. just a dry reading of almost ANYTHING, without understanding it in one's owns terms, is really kinda fruitless most of the time.

The real strength of literature, is based upon what the reader brings to it.. it's true basically for everything, math, science, fiction..

My thoughts about Mark going to school there.. correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was for a legitimate master's degree.. I think he saw that they needed some outside help. Maybe he thought that if he was gonna be superman.. and it would just about take that to bring any real legitimacy to the organization.. that he'd better learn HOW to be superman.. still, the prophecy thingy and the adamancy of now wife in that regard, makes me think he has/had a few internal conflicts. From what I've read here, on top of the organization, it wouldn't suprise me if a person felt like they were in a room full of Chihuauas prophesying at one's heels..

Happy Birthday Oak! Hopefully you can have your cake, and eat it too.. :)

They have that place locked up so tight that it can't pass gas. In the event you gave the keyboard person a good name, you'd probably have to recite the correct secret squirrel security code to get through..

Actually, there was another time that they hope they won't have to repeat.. At least one lawyer had the chance to confront a few of them in a deposition duing the A**en proceedings against der vey... and with the answers they gave, the judge deemed the case against them to be worthy of being placed before a jury. New folks appear to arriving here every day.. recent departures.. it appears that all the "old" people "with an ax to grind" simply dying off won't fix their little "problems" either..

Sometimes my song is a little off key.. Well, people are nice here, they usually take the good with the bad.. :)

I suppose if a person could pole vault over the "barb wire fence" into the "compound".. I'd do it, but Linder already has enough to do, running people out of the cemetary, and dispatching unwanted pets.. hmm. Maybe a phone call will do.. "der vey inter nationall.." "connect me to rosie please" "your name, sir?" "ham." "ham, ham, lessee.. let me check da list. Ah. Well, mr. ham, rosie is not in today. would you like to leave a message.." All I can say.. confront them? Personally? You've got to be kidding.. they are HIDING from confrontation.. perhaps this little "den of iniquity" is a constant reminder that the "problems" just aren't going to go away, by themselves. about the only one I ever knew who actually had the chance was a then staffer who only got an"ahhhm sorry I hurt your feelins.." then more of the same manipulation..

I think it does. The American Indian beliefs ascribe the Grandmother to the spirit of the earth. It may be pretty subjective, but it makes sense to me. :) What the hell.. I've already shot any kind of reputation I possibly may have here.. :) last couple of days.. I've had the impression of souls leaving this place, not reincarnating as what may be the usual course of nature.. Like they are leaving like there's no tomorrow.. what's going on with this planet.. I don't have a clue.. I think it's gonna be a lot smaller than what it is.. This must make some sense to someone else other than me.. either that, or I have a rather over active imagination.. *ham leaves the building, really mumbling to himself, his tin foil hat intact, but ineffectual to the forces of da debil..* sheesh.. this must make some sense for somebody.. at least I HAVE an imagination.

The only thing I would ask.. is it unconditional love, like they may claim, or a mere second rate substitute.. will they love you for who you are, or will they drop you like a hot rock if you can't "perform.. Just a thought.

I would not either, glimpse that is.. I don't see the whole world beating a path to his door, so to speak.. maybe he can post here.. but I wouldn't hold my breath. I would like to know what he's learned.. dealing with a situation that really is "terminal". I've had to look at that possibility once. How does the concept of mogness apply there.. he's the same as any other human being.. I'd like for one moment these men of "greatness" to just lower the defenses, and really say what they feel..

Perhaps the animal says: "God has created me spiritually, so I will live by my instinct.." Perhaps people are no that much different..

Well .. the law could love, believe it or not. The "righteous requirements" and such.. could subjectively choose to be fulfilled, or not.. look at David.. :)