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  1. Rachel, you may be interested in The Jewish Study Bible – if you don't already have one. It combines the Jewish Publication Society's Tanakh translation along with explanatory annotations, introductions, and essays by leading biblical scholars. I purchased one last year and love the wealth of information it has! Oh, don't think I've said so yet - welcome to Grease Spot! The Jewish Study Bible http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/103-7271156-2630217?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=The+Jewish+Study+Bible&x=15&y=18 Eyes Open, I have The Didache in a copy of The Apostolic Fathers – a new translation of early Christian writings: The Apostolic Fathers http://www.amazon.com/Apostolic-Fathers-Jack-N-Sparks/dp/0840756615/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200152332&sr=1-12 MarkOMalley – great input – and as always great posts – I enjoy reading them – very sharp and informative.
  2. Great thread, Roy! My responses are bold blue: 1. What web site is this? The other side of the story – the only website qualified to remove those PFAL colored glasses. It's the greatest Grease Spot in the world today. 2. What Area of the Web site is this test in? Area 51…That's right…everything About the Way is just plain weird!...The Ex-TWI Files… 3. Do you still believe The Way Ministry was not a cult? Nope! 4.Do you still love to see Victor Paul Wierwille at the Rock? Is this a trick question from "Are the Dead Alive Now?" 5. Do you still plan to go to the Rock of Ages? As soon as I tweak my time machine - I'm zipping back to Woodstock…note to self: don't eat the brown acid. 6. Are you planning to go WOW this year? Nope – sticking to my original plan of MOW which is Me over the Way 7. Do you still give money to the Way ministry? No – and I'm very interested in a hefty rebate! 8. Are running a class in your home right now? Why, yes – and Green Cards are flying outta my bu++! 9. Do you feel sorry that the Way ministry lost a lot of people? Nope – most folks got lost while in TWI. 10. Do you still believe the Way doctrines were of God? Never trust anyone who is a plagiarist/sexual predator/alcoholic all rolled into one. 11. Is it possible Victor Paul Wierwille lied to you? You're getting warmer! 12. Do you still pray for Victor Paul Wierwille? I pray for all the folks he hurt. 13. Do you still send money to move the Word of the Way forward? See my answer to # 7 – where's that hefty rebate?! 14. Do you still go to Limb cookouts? Nope – just Grease Spot BBQs now. 15. Do you still with pride have a Way sticker on your car? My current bumper sticker reads "Honk if you hate Corps Night" 16. Do you still sing at your home fellowship? Heavens no – why do you think they made me play the bass in the band? 17. Do you still hide from people who have been mark and avoided by the Way ministry? Anyone marked and avoided is a friend of mine. 18. Do you still witness about the class? I would gladly testify in a court of law how PFAL ripped me off! And I want Denny Crane to represent me. 19. Were you smart to get out of the Way ministry? Ubetcha! 20. Did you stay too long in the Way ministry? Oh yeah!
  3. T-Bone

    The Truth

    Well, the fact that people go around breaking the Ten Commandments all the time leads me to think it's common place for folks to stand in defiance of God – which should also be obvious by reading Romans 1…And think about I Timothy 2:4 which says it's God's will for all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. We know that not all men are saved. Maybe there's some confusion over God's sovereign will and His moral will. God's sovereign will encompasses all the details of how everything is going to work out – as it says in Ephesians 1:11, God works out everything according to the counsel of His own will. His sovereign will - that's God's ultimate plan – so much of the details are known only to Him. But His moral will – He has made known to us – i.e. the 10 Commandments as well as other Scripture that place moral demands on us. His sovereign will – how He works out everything to accomplish His purposes CANNOT be thwarted! But His moral will can be disobeyed. Some folks don't think that highly of God's sovereignty – thinking He would be challenged by the freewill decisions of His creatures – but that portrays Him as a less-than-omnipotent being. IMHO, it truly glorifies God's sovereignty, wisdom and foreknowledge – in that He still accomplishes His purposes unhindered by the freewill decisions of His creatures. For as it says in Romans 8:28 God causes all things to work together for good. It doesn't just say God causes all things. That would make Him the author of evil. Like Joseph expressed to his brothers in Genesis 50:20 – their plans meant to do evil – but God overruled their plans for good.
  4. This is very insightful - good for anyone who visits Grease Spot to think about! Great gems from Goey on the Everything all wrong? thread in Doctrinal:
  5. Great advice...for anyone at Grease Spot - thanks Goey!
  6. Great post Spectrum 49, and welcome to Grease Spot!
  7. Best wishes from Tonto & T-Bone
  8. Twinky – great point on one-size-fits-all-thinking. Waysider – you’re a riot dude!....That’s what happens to a bicycle rider without a pedaler’s license.
  9. Welcome to Grease Spot, Jafin!....Waysider is right – Grease Spot is a great resource for your questions. Check out the tutorials and get into the Search feature. Look at the top bar of Grease Spot – over to the right, next to Help is Search – click on Search and then click on More Search Options. I was in TWI for 12 years – left in 1986. I was in the Corps - and the biggest factor in my leaving was the ever-growing mountain of questions piling up in my head as I watched upper leadership scrambling through crisis management after Passing of a Patriarch came out. Some of my first questions were so simple - yet were instrumental in activating a critical thinking process: How could this happen to a ministry that has more of the rightly divided Word than any other group on earth? How could this happen to people who operated all nine manifestations? Where is God in all this mess? I've been a Christian all my life – and a big lesson I've learned from my TWI experience is to CHECK OUT ALL the DETAILS MYSELF! In TWI, we were encouraged to absorb rather than analyze information. After leaving, I devoted a lot of time to exploring systematic theology. I believe a student of the Bible can develop good critical thinking skills from practicing the wisdom found in the book of Proverbs – exemplified in the things Jesus said and did in the gospels….And there's SO MUCH to learn from other folks - I've listed below some books that I have found helpful and like Grease Spot is great for the value of another viewpoint. Understanding the Bible by John Stott http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Bible-John-R-Stott/dp/0801012295/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199627893&sr=1-15 30 Days to Understanding the Bible by Max Anders http://www.amazon.com/Days-Understanding-Bible-Max-Anders/dp/1418500143/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199627775&sr=1-4 What to do on Thursday: A Layman's Guide to the Practical Use of the Scriptures by Jay Adams http://www.amazon.com/What-Do-Thursday-Practical-Scriptures/dp/0964355671/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199628487&sr=1-1 Decision Making and the Will of God by Garry Friesen & J Robin Maxson http://www.amazon.com/Decision-Making-Will-God-Alternative/dp/1590522052/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199628561&sr=1-1 Step by Step: Divine Guidance for Ordinary Christians by James Petty http://www.amazon.com/Step-Guidance-Ordinary-Christians-Resources/dp/0875526039/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199628787&sr=1-1 Scripture Twisting: 20 Ways the Cults Misread the Bible by James Sire http://www.amazon.com/Scripture-Twisting-Twenty-Cults-Misread/dp/0877846111/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199628090&sr=1-1 Beyond Seduction: A Return to Biblical Christianity by Dave Hunt http://www.amazon.com/BEYOND-SEDUCTION-RETURN-BIBLICAL-CHRISTIANITY/dp/B000IO8YUQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199628334&sr=1-1 Critical Thinking: Tools for Taking Charge of Your Professional and Personal Life by Richard Paul and Linda Elder http://www.amazon.com/Critical-Thinking-Taking-Professional-Personal/dp/0130647608/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199628889&sr=1-3 Believer's Bible Commentary by William MacDonald http://www.amazon.com/Believers-Bible-Commentary-William-MacDonald/dp/0785212167/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199629099&sr=1-1 Zondervan NIV Bible Commentary Old & New Testament by Kenneth Barker & John Kohlenberger http://www.amazon.com/Zondervan-NIV-Bible-Commentary-Abridgment/dp/0310578507/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199629231&sr=1-2 http://www.amazon.com/Zondervan-NIV-Bible-Commentary-Abridgment/dp/031057840X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199629231&sr=1-1 Christian Theology by Millard Erickson http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Theology-Millard-J-Erickson/dp/0801021820/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199629517&sr=1-1 More Than Redemption: A Theology of Christian Counseling by Jay Adams http://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Redemption-Christian-Counseling/dp/0875520405/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199629598&sr=1-1
  10. Jeff – yup, Proverbs 9:10 is a big favorite of mine – The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. IMHO, the Bible is not something to satisfy our intellectual curiosity but is a means of drawing our souls closer to Him. This sort of ties into stuff Bride of JC and Pond talked about. Bride of JC – "amen" to your "amen"! I was reading Ecclesiastes today and your mentioning of a path to the beginning of knowledge made me think of Ecclesiastes 3:11 NASB He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end. The first sentence hits me as saying the universe is NOT meaningless – that our God has a purpose for everything. Maybe the next sentence alludes to that insatiable hunger in our hearts – a God-shaped-hole that is impossible to fill – perhaps a built-in desire for things eternal…We're on a path of knowledge that has no end! I'll second your motion - Happy New Year to everyone! Pond – your post describes how things changed for me after leaving TWI. I went from me trying to figure it all out to drawing closer to Jesus Christ – and yes, now the mental picture of life I hold seems to be in a perpetual state of flux. No complaints here – life is not boring – I'm on an adventure with my Lord! I think you've made a great observation about the stress and strain with the mysteries in life – when we deal with such matters apart from Christ. I'm reminded of something else I came across in Ecclesiastes: Ecclesiastes 1:12-18 NASB 12 I, the Preacher, have been king over Israel in Jerusalem. 13 And I set my mind to seek and explore by wisdom concerning all that has been done under heaven. It is a grievous task which God has given to the sons of men to be afflicted with. 14 I have seen all the works which have been done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and striving after wind. 15 What is crooked cannot be straightened and what is lacking cannot be counted. 16 I said to myself, "Behold, I have magnified and increased wisdom more than all who were over Jerusalem before me; and my mind has observed a wealth of wisdom and knowledge." 17 And I set my mind to know wisdom and to know madness and folly; I realized that this also is striving after wind. 18 Because in much wisdom there is much grief, and increasing knowledge results in increasing pain. Some commentators point out that the phrases under heaven and under the sun used in Ecclesiastes represents a viewpoint that ignores God. Also, The MacArthur Study Bible points out the covenant name "Lord" is never used in Ecclesiastes. However, "God" is found almost 40 times – with the emphasis being more on God's sovereignty and providence in the universe than His covenant relationship through redemption. Perhaps that is why Solomon concluded all is madness, folly, bringing grief and pain – when we pursue wisdom apart from a relationship with the Lord.
  11. Great stuff everyone – thanks!.....Something else this thread has me thinking about – how we each respond to things unknown…how we navigate in unfamiliar territory…Perhaps courage and a taste for adventure should be the companions of curiosity. Weak is a belief system that leads a sheltered life – i.e. does not engage reality. I'm thinking of my stint in TWI – oh, what daze of humdrum fare . That was a time of false security from a grand delusion of "superior knowledge." God forbid a great calamity should have happened – I would have cratered. Think about the experiences of Job. In the midst of his suffering one of his friends reminds him of God's awesomeness: Job 5:9 NASB Who does great and unsearchable things, wonders without number. If I was Job – I would have said, "Hey, you're not helping." And by the time we get to God answering Job out of the whirlwind, you'd think He'd explain all the whys and wherefores of what's going on – but no. Instead of supplying answers, God unleashes a barrage of questions…And while today's scientists can answer some questions of how things in the physical world work – none can explain how things actually came to be: Job 38:1-36 NASB 1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said, 2 "Who is this that darkens counsel By words without knowledge? 3 "Now gird up your loins like a man, And I will ask you, and you instruct Me! 4 "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, 5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? 6 "On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy? 8 "Or who enclosed the sea with doors When, bursting forth, it went out from the womb; 9 When I made a cloud its garment And thick darkness its swaddling band, 10 And I placed boundaries on it And set a bolt and doors, 11 And I said, 'Thus far you shall come, but no farther; And here shall your proud waves stop'? 12 "Have you ever in your life commanded the morning, And caused the dawn to know its place, 13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, And the wicked be shaken out of it? 14 "It is changed like clay under the seal; And they stand forth like a garment. 15 "From the wicked their light is withheld, And the uplifted arm is broken. 16 "Have you entered into the springs of the sea Or walked in the recesses of the deep? 17 "Have the gates of death been revealed to you, Or have you seen the gates of deep darkness? 18 "Have you understood the expanse of the earth? Tell Me, if you know all this. 19 "Where is the way to the dwelling of light? And darkness, where is its place, 20 That you may take it to its territory And that you may discern the paths to its home? 21 "You know, for you were born then, And the number of your days is great! 22 "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow, Or have you seen the storehouses of the hail, 23 Which I have reserved for the time of distress, For the day of war and battle? 24 "Where is the way that the light is divided, Or the east wind scattered on the earth? 25 "Who has cleft a channel for the flood, Or a way for the thunderbolt, 26 To bring rain on a land without people, On a desert without a man in it, 27 To satisfy the waste and desolate land And to make the seeds of grass to sprout? 28 "Has the rain a father? Or who has begotten the drops of dew? 29 "From whose womb has come the ice? And the frost of heaven, who has given it birth? 30 "Water becomes hard like stone, And the surface of the deep is imprisoned. 31 "Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades, Or loose the cords of Orion? 32 "Can you lead forth a constellation in its season, And guide the Bear with her satellites? 33 "Do you know the ordinances of the heavens, Or fix their rule over the earth? 34 "Can you lift up your voice to the clouds, So that an abundance of water will cover you? 35 "Can you send forth lightnings that they may go And say to you, 'Here we are'? 36 "Who has put wisdom in the innermost being Or given understanding to the mind? After a ton of questions by God, Job responds: Job 42:1-6 NASB 1 Then Job answered the LORD and said, 2 "I know that You can do all things, And that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted. 3 'Who is this that hides counsel without knowledge?' "Therefore I have declared that which I did not understand, Things too wonderful for me, which I did not know." 4 'Hear, now, and I will speak; I will ask You, and You instruct me.' 5 "I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear; But now my eye sees You; 6 Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes." Maybe as we think about the majesty, power, and wisdom of God reflected in creation we not only come to terms with our own ignorance and weakness – but God Himself looms large in our mind's eye.
  12. Hey Patrick – that's cool stuff! Thanks for posting that! I've got nothing bad to say about it…Parts of it are similar to something I wrote called A Day's Journey. It's basically a script to remind me of priorities, attitudes, goals, methods, etc. that are important to me – it serves as a focusing tool in the morning and as a means of reflection at the end of the day. It's something I revise every so often. ....and speaking of spell-checker I usually draft a post on my computer [Microsoft Office has a spell-checker of course – then copy and paste it onto Grease Spot Reply Window] but I also loaded one you can use through Grease Spot's Reply Window – for when I want to make a quick response. To load it click on the ABC icon with the check symbol under it. You'll be directed to a website where you can download iSpell onto your PC. If you're using Internet Explorer 7, to check spelling on your Reply Window – click on Tools in the toolbar of your browser and then click on iSpell. Personally, misspelling or poor grammar in posts don't bother me at all - and I think most folks here are not hung up about it either. I ain't no expert on anything though I was a good speller in grade school but me grammar could use some help - may have to break down and buy How to Speak Gooder English. [edited just because I could]
  13. Santa Claus: Little boy, would you like Santa to bring you a pendant for Christmas? Little Boy: Yes……No……Yes…..No
  14. Patrick – I like the way you put that "We grew out of the box into the next big adventure!" ….Makes me think of life being a journey – and I stayed too long on one particular path…It would be great if you shared some more about the metaphysics class and your project. Bliss – "What does keep me wondering and guessing is the fact that He is mysterious, and my human mind cannot even wrap itself around the sum of His Being." Yes – it's frustrating at times – we're so used to the feeling of mastery in the information age – we can get on the Internet and find beaucoup of stuff on just about anything!... I'm thankful to even get a tiny glimpse of God – don't think we're capable of wrapping our minds around Him…but certainly we have touched Him…and He has touched us. Your post got me thinking of the communion John 14 talks about – mentioning the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit – don't understand how it all works together but bottom line is that somehow in all that Jesus reveals Himself to us! Jeff – I found the passage in Luke 10: Luke 10:21-24 NASB 21 At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I praise You, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight. 22 "All things have been handed over to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him." 23 Turning to the disciples, He said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see the things you see, 24 for I say to you, that many prophets and kings wished to see the things which you see, and did not see them, and to hear the things which you hear, and did not hear them." Maybe we're comparing apples to oranges. I'm thinking the Proverbs 25 passage addresses practical matters at hand – of which God expects kings to apply due diligence to handle appropriately. Luke 10 speaks of Jesus revealing something to whom He wills. I wonder if verse 24 is referring to the disciples literally seeing and hearing the things Jesus said and did. I'm not casting doubt on illumination by God – yes, that's a very real and necessary part of the Christian experience. And yes – it's grace for God to do that – but I also think we are curious BY DESIGN…maybe God wants us to take a more active role in learning about Him. I would think the directive in Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you has practical application for deepening our relationship with Him.
  15. Proverbs 25:2 NASB It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter. Something about this verse has always fascinated me. It's comparing the roles of God and kings – how God's knowledge and wisdom is far beyond the most powerful of people. His ways are unsearchable – whereas leaders must apply due diligence in order to handle matters. Another thing I think about with this passage – is how creation is filled with wonder and mystery. Why does this or that exist?...How does this or that work?...What's this or that all about? The things of life are not self-explanatory. Curiosity drives people to wonder about stuff – from scientists and philosophers to someone reflecting on a sunset. As much as I enjoy reading the Bible – it seems God left a lot of things bundled up in a mystery there too…so many things I don't understand. And the closer I'm drawn to God – the more I'm aware of how little I understand about Him. How odd – a very humbling yet stimulating experience. How different from when I was in TWI. Absorbing all their beliefs and perspective was about as intellectually stimulating as shooting fish in a barrel. Now I find life to be so much more interesting in "the thrill of the hunt", armed with an insatiable desire to understand…to question…to wonder….But for me, mystery…searching…and the occasional discovery – that's what makes life intriguing. Like the surprises in relationships when you see a different side of someone. When on Grease Spot I now read a lot more than post – and I like to read stuff by folks who have beliefs way different than mine – it gets me thinking…wondering…What an enjoyable website – not only for telling the other side of the story – but for the unique unfolding story of each person exploring life outside the TWI-box. It seems God does have a long suit in being mysterious – but I think curiosity is the spice of life.
  16. T-Bone

    Merry Christmas

    Thanks, Paw and I wish you and Grease Spot folks the same! Perhaps it’s a combination of me getting older and having the freedom to enjoy life – the birth of Christ means so much more to me now then in the dark daze of my youth. It’s amazing – by escaping from a group that dictated beliefs and perspectives – I feel like the floodgates of Christ’s power were opened…What a great season for celebrating His blessings on our family!
  17. After analyzing vp's doctrines, methods and behavior many folks find a lot of holes in that assumption. I would say rather than being a target of the adversary he was more like the adversary's tool. I for one, tend to think all his efforts were self-serving – and did more to divert people from true Christianity. I am thankful for the chain of events around the time of Passing of a Patriarch – events which I believe were orchestrated by God to cripple a ministry intent on ripping people off and disgracing the name of Jesus Christ.
  18. In Step by Step Petty talks about the sin of Adam and Eve which has me wondering about what may drive us to seek God's guidance [which also got me thinking about stuff on Word Wolf's thread What does God Know?]. Genesis 3:4, 5, 22, 23 NASB 4 The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die! 5 "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken. IMHO there's a huge difference in what God knows and what we know – in terms of the way knowledge is processed. For God, the knowledge of good and evil is approached by a mind that is perfect holiness, righteous, benevolent, and all encompassing with infinite farsightedness to boot! We, on the other hand, are fallen creatures with temporal/corporal limitations and imprisoned by our own self-centeredness. Our way of gaining knowledge of good and evil is through personal experience. Perhaps from our myopic perspective we sometimes become impatient [maybe even doubt God's benevolence and providence] and want total control of things. We demand…beg…plead…grasp at straws…imagining there's got to be some way we can have more control of our situation. How can God's sovereignty and human responsibility coexist? What if the way God has everything work out through His sovereignty takes into account the freewill decisions of His creatures. Then, in a sense, human responsibility is a necessary cog in the grand "machinery" of things. Petty brings up the misconception of alternate plans of God. Plan A being the primary will of God for your life – but if you miss His guidance then you settle for plan B, miss that and you go to plan C, etc…This thinking ignores the sovereignty of God and His intimate knowledge and love for each person. IMHO God has only ONE plan – His sovereign will – something that we all want the inside scoop on. But we're so easily prone to impatience, frustration and anxiety since we don't ever have the whole gamut of situations, events and decision-making crossroads mapped out before us. Imagine someone giving you a road map of the US, a compass, a car, travel money, a year off from work and saying "Take a trip and enjoy the experience." What would you do? Where would you go? While in TWI – I preferred a map with a single line from start to finish – point A to point B. Don't put any other info on it except what's necessary – like marking on it the exit ramp where my car breaks down and the location of a good mechanic. It eliminates a lot of that complicated decision-making stuff. The thing is – I never had a map like that in TWI. I'd get partial maps, wrong directions [the revelation changes when circumstances change], predetermined destinations…and if you used their compass [TWI's moral compass always points to New Knoxville] you ain't getting very far.
  19. I've started reading a great book recommended by Cynic in post # 2, Step by Step: Divine Guidance for Ordinary Christians by James Petty. Petty refers to the decision-making model promoted in the book as the wisdom view, on page 33 & 34: "In this view, divine guidance has nothing to do with discerning this secret plan and using it to make decisions. Guidance is given by God when he gives us insight into issues and choices so that we make the decisions with divinely inspired wisdom. Guidance comes, in short, by God making us wise. In this view, there is no seeking for clues or signs of God's plan; there is no need for a direct word spoken by prophecy, dream, or vision. This wisdom view sees God as guiding his children mediately, not immediately. That is, his guidance is mediated [comes through] the illumination of our minds and hearts by the Word of God. God's work of illumination is like turning on the lights in an unfamiliar room. Once the lights are on, you can see and walk confidently. Otherwise, you need someone to take you by the hand and lead you. In the illuminated room, you can guide yourself, yet you are dependent on the light." Thanks Cynic, for recommending a great book!
  20. T-Bone

    resurfacing

    Welcome to Grease Spot, Tex! I look forward to reading your book – the title is perfect. I’m glad you found this website – a great place of give and take.
  21. Just seeing if these posts were deleted...also making sure I didn't choose a disappearing ink font or something. [this post has been edited for an R10 rating for Reading this post ten times is mandatory]
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