waysider

I think the kind of lifestyle we lived had a far greater impact on us than such things as the "4 crucified with Christ" type teachings we heard. All the talk about consequences from non-compliance. That's where the splinter label comes into play. They still teach "follow the leader" and promote an organizational form that is hierarchial by nature. Oh, and don't forget to send money.

If we're going to discuss the tithe on a thread whose focal point is V.P. Wierwille, it only makes sense to limit said discussion to the tithe "as defined by the parameter's of V.P. Wierwille's belief system". Wierwille's belief system was built on a framework of The Bible, not Torah. Wierwille taught that the tithe is a requirement for today's Christians. The Bible, Wierwille's reference point, clearly states otherwise. Wierwille went on to say that today's Christians should feel compelled to go beyond the standard 10%. Thus, the phrase "Abundant "Sharing" (or ABS) came to be. Wierwille's plan, from very early on, was to use The Bible to create a vast base of people who would not only tithe, but ABS exclusively to the multi-level marketing scheme he developed, thus ensuring him a steady flow of financial gain. He stressed the (fabricated) spiritual importance of following this doctrine in PFAL when he used the illustration of Ananias and Saphira's fate because of their disobedience. It was the groundwork for what has proven to be a pattern of subtle manipulation and abuse of power.

A "splinter" is one that retains some of the qualities/doctrines of the original. If they hold fast to the old Way theology or promote a lifestyle that mimics The Way, to my thinking, that would qualify them as a splinter.

and your proof of this?

You might consider not abbreviating it. I'm just sayin'

Geeze! This whole "I win, you lose" banter reminds me of a PeeWee Herman routine or something. I know you are but what am I? I know you are but what am I? I know you are but what am I? AAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!

I dunno. I'm thinking it was more like Kabuki.

Wow!!! I guess you showed ME a thing or two!

It has occurred to me that we may have actually needed the name tags because, after a while, you start to forget who you really are.

Yeah, but ya gotta admit, before The Way Ministry burst on the scene, who really ever thought about re-using disposable coffee cups?

To each his own Said Farmer Jones, As he kissed Ol' Bossie, the cow.

There may have been a lot of well intentioned individuals who worked in the "research department" over the years, but, as far as Wierwille was concerned, it was all just window dressing for his get-rich, MLM scheme.

Ya see, that's a prime example of this inane idea that every word has to be meticulously groomed for accuracy. Can you imagine if this same concept had been applied to the visual arts, down through the ages? No impressionism, no pointillism, no abstract, no modern, no avant garde, no surrealism, no romantic------------just pictures that "edify" (whatever the hell that means.)

ESPECIALLY Gospel----Because the words were most often *wrongly divided. *(according to TWI theology)

I speak Pig-Latin. And my services are eefray. (ya gets whatcha pays for.)

Oh not just "any" kind.-------EVERY kind. Uhmmmm. You knew The Beatles were born-again of the seed of the serpent, no?

And, now, Al Sleet, the Hippy Dippy Weatherman, with all the hippy dippy weather, man.

Well, you've heard of "Children of the Corn"? This is more like "Children of the Wheat Berries".

Yes, I can see where the first two lines, by themselves, may appear to be something from "Alien".

Straight out of PLAF (The Wonder Class), sessions 1-3.---paraphrased, of course.

We have a winner!!

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If only you knew what's inside of me now. You wouldn't want to know me somehow. Give just a little bit more. Take a little bit less from each other tonight.

Why does this thread give me deja vu of PFAL?