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One of my old acting coaches used to say,"You don't have to fall down a flight stairs to play the part of a character with a broken arm."

That seems logical but I don't know if statistics bare that out.

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Yep. Plan the adverary out of your life, speak in tongues much, fill your mind with endless retemories----- It all accomplishes the same end. It keeps your mind so occupied with mental busy work that you don't have time to objectively consider the big picture.

"I recall Dr Wierwille saying once that when a man is a homosexual God is displeased but when a woman becomes a lesbian "God spits". That is perhaps the worst thing I have ever heard uttered by a human being... It made me proclaim in my heart that "God is a lesbian" just to repair the damage DW did to my mind." Why would you give any credibility at all to that worthless piece of dung?

I wonder if they'll have one of those secret inner sanctum initiation things around a bon fire. You know, the one with the blindfolds and hooded priests and hot stuff to burn your tongue. Now that would be awesome! Totally awesome!

Yeah, but did Crowley ever see any snow magically appear on gas pumps? I rest my case.

Looking at it geographically and chronologically, I would say the chances are pretty slim. They did, however, seem to share a similar opinion of women.

I read it years ago, though I don't recall if it was mandatory. It's no wonder VPW recommended this guy's work. He probably saw him as some sort of role model.

soul searcher I hope you know we're funnin' with you. "Private interpretation" is at the heart of all that is "evil" in Wayville.

Was Lady Macbeth an AC grad? Out, damned spot! out, I say! (probably an "unclean" spirit)

Oh my God! By TWI standards, you've just committed blasphemy! :P "Knowing this WHEN, class?-- FIRST ---NO prophesy of the scriptures is of any WHAT, class?--PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. Dat's Riiiiiiggggghhhhht! God's Word has a purpose for everything it says----where it says it, when it says it, how it says it and to whom it says it. You see, class, it fits like a hand in a glove, with scientific precision and mathematical accuracy. In this class on power for abundant living I'm going to teach you to be able to understand it in a way that you'll "know that you know that you know", beyond a shadow of a doubt, what it really means. And, if you still don't understand what it means, you just write to me, "The Teacher" and I'll TELL you what it means." disclaimer: somewhat paraphrased and condensed on account of my memory ain't what it used to be.

Well said, Groucho Sad thing is, I remember when Gary D. went off grounds in 1973 or 1974 and was killed in a car wreck. All the buzz around the ministry was that the reason he died was because he defied revelation from the man of God. ----Sick, Sick, Sick

If anyone could put it in the correct perspective, I knew it would be you.

Your wisdom belies your youth.

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Good point, excie. And there were those, also, who died trying to prove the law of believing was real.

I doubt you'll find many here who read I Ching during their TWI years. That sort of thing was considered to be a "counterfeit from the pit of hell". Reading that sort of thing was thought to be an invitation to the devil to sneak in through the trap door of your unrenewed mind. (Fallacious Spirit)

I'm sure there are probably people who are alive today because of their Way involvement, though I can't think of any specific examples. On the other hand, there are also people who are dead today because of their Way involvement. For those, I can think of specific examples. But, my point, really, was that the expression, itself, became somewhat of a pledge of allegiance to the organization. Except in specific, verifiable cases, it was really just a parroted phrase that perpetuated itself down through the years as a rallying cry to remain loyal to the cult. People repeated it without any real concern for it's veracity.

BINGO!

Well, here's the kicker for you. In The Way, you might have been labeled as having a "Spirit of Slumber"--Romans 11:8 (can't see the truth of God's Word)-----from page 20/AC

Darned if I know.

Here is what Wierwille taught in the Advanced Class. Page 19 A born-again believer may become afflicted with evil spirits. The spirits may affect or possess mind and/or body, but not spirit. A daughter of Abraham (believer). Compare Luke 13:16; Romans 4:3,11,16; 9:6-8. Illustration. (a) Natural man of just body and soul would not murder. (b) Spiritual man of body, soul and spirit would not murder. © Thus, one in whom a spirit of murder dwells is the only one who would murder. Disclaimer: I personally believe this stuff is a load of horse crap but you wanted some scriptures so there ya go. EDIT FWIW---This verbiage is inconsistent with Wierwille's phrasing (he would never interchange the words "evil spirit" with "devil spirit" unless he was quoting someone.), leading me to believe he swiped this from one of the multitude of sources he plagiarized.

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