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Take some time look at the lesson of Eve's downfall, in session seven of pfal, with a critical eye. Yeah, I know. According to that lesson, you shouldn't even consider the lesson itself. It was "the hook". Never allow your mind to "consider"???? What kind of system is this that dictates what you can and can't think?

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-----The Left Banke

This sort of belief is certainly not exclusive to Christianity. You will find this thinking is deeply rooted in Eastern religions as well. "Throughout this process, some traditions (i.e., the Vedanta), believe that God plays some kind of role, for example, as the dispenser of the fruits of karma[12] or as exercising the option to change one's karma in rare instances. In general, followers of Buddhism and many Hindus consider the natural laws of causation sufficient to explain the effects of karma.[13][14][15] Another view holds that a Sadguru, acting on God's behalf, can mitigate or work out some of the karma of the disciple.[16][17][18] However, according to Jainism, neither the God nor the Guru have any role in a person's Karma. A person himself is the sole doer and enjoyer of his karmas and their fruits." Karma ********************************************************** "Though we are neither the absolutely the servants nor the masters of our Karma, it is evident from these counteractive and supportive factors that the fruition of Karma is influenced to some extent by external circumstances, surroundings, personality, individual striving, and so forth. It is this doctrine of Karma that gives consolation, hope, reliance and moral courage to a Buddhist. When the unexpected happens, and he meets with difficulties, failures, and misfortune, the Buddhist realises that he is reaping what he has sown, and he is wiping off a past debt. Instead of resigning himself, leaving everything to Karma, he makes a strenuous effort to pull the weeds and sow useful seeds in their place, for the future is in his own hands." Basic Buddhism

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I wonder if, twenty years from now, they'll be having Kindle burnings.

Something like "Cantalope until my honeydew."??

I personally never heard him speak on Gandhi. I suspect he borrowed his interest in India from E. Stanley Jones. You may recall, it was from Jones that he borrowed "Fear is sand in the machinery of life."

Cleveland had Ghoulardi HERE

No matter what you do------Love Will Find You

Before I took the foundational class, I engaged in a conversation with one of the local advanced class grads. "You know", said the AC grad, "behind every religious statue and idol there is a devil spirit." "Oh?", said I. "Do you mean that they're inspired by devil spirits?" So the AC grad gets a bewildered look on their face and indignantly says, "Well, Dr. said in the AC that there is a devil spirit behind each one of them and that's good enough for me!!" :wacko:

Stupid Way Story Cleveland, 1973 or '74 A young lady with a history of drug abuse and mental health problems is "witnessed to". She has no interest in the class but someone offers to pay her "donation". Midway through session 5 (the "Christ In You" session) she gets a disgusted look on her face, stands up, says, " I gotta get out of here" and leaves---never to be seen again. After the session, we worker bees are called together by the class leader, Mr. Spiritual, and informed we have just witnessed a devil spirit being dispelled by the light of "the truth". (You know, the "devil spirit" was doing the speaking.) Now for the stupid part-------------We believed it!

Yes, I'm familiar with it. Your reference of it evoked a memory of consuming a goodly amount of it before riding "shotgun" in one of VP's classic cars. (a red one)

Wild Turkey?

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That middle of the night strategy seemed to be quite popular in TWI. (We had them in FLO, as well.) Why?, I don't really know. Maybe it was to take people off guard. Maybe it was to frame the message in an aura of false urgency. Maybe it was because people are more willing to relinquish control of their logic and reason when they are sleep deprived. Personally, I think it was a method they borrowed from legitimate applications, such as the military, and exploited to their advantage. What I do know, from personal experience, is that it can prove to be very effective at squelching opposition.

I still remember how my Grandmother lamented over the demise of formal letter writing.

Thanks, Nato, for "getting it". Yeah, I've pretty much worked myself past all that stuff, too. GSC played a big part in helping me do that. AND---I never really thought about how Wierdwille used that explanation to hide his slothfulness. LOL.

I probably didn't explain this very well. I'm not talking about the obvious stuff that doesn't relate to TWI. Stuff like someone keeping a hand grenade on their desk or talking about blowing things up. That stuff doesn't require any affiliation with TWI to be a cause of alarm. What I'm talking about is the things that relate directly to TWI teachings. Stuff like someone you've gotten to know fairly well revealing to you they take meds. for bipolar disorder or that they've been a recovering alcoholic for the last ten years or that they have cancer or that they are homosexual but in the closet. That kind of stuff. When I was in TWI, I would find myself in those situations and suddenly feel a sense of paranoia about what I may have revealed to them. What have I said? Was I talking to a devil spirit? yada, yada, yada. Plus, there was always that guilt that I must have missed on the discerning of spirits angle. I worked with a guy for a couple of years who was very normal. Very nice person. One day he revealed to me that he started life as a female but had surgically changed his identity to male. All kinds of TWI thinking goes through your head at times like that. Now, years later, I feel foolish and guilty for allowing my "Waybrain" to ruin what had been a good friendship. That's what I'm talking about.

I guess Willie Dixon must have been a "seed boy".