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Jeff Even though I choose to remain anonymous, there are probably at least a half dozen people here who know my identity because we knew each other face to face while in The Way. There are probably that many again who know my identity because we have corresponded to exchange books, tapes, etc. And, if "The WayGB" doesn't know who I am, they haven't been paying attention because I have been straight forward about my personal history which includes ties to some at HQ who might recognize coinciding experiences. So, in reality, I'm not really "anonymous". Still, I like to keep it the way it is. Maybe that's just me. There are lots of reasons to keep it that way that may not even involve The Way. For example, would you really want a prospective employer or loan officer or court official to do a google search and prejudge you based on cult involvement that is decades past? Why not simply avoid the issue by using a "handle"? Then, if you feel compelled to reveal your identity to specific individuals, you can do so on an individual basis. But, it's really a personal choice that everyone has to make for themselves.

Maybe VPW should have taken the Advanced Class. ********************************* Page 6 WORD OF WISDOM "---is the manifestation of Word of Knowledge applied." (ie: What to do with Word of Knowledge once it's been given to you.)

Actually, that's very astute artistic observation. Throughout various periods in art, large male genitalia was considered freakish and grotesque. I suppose a more recent counterpart that would illustrate this attitude would be the flapper era of the 1920's, when large breasts were considered passe and unattractive. Women wore special clothing to make themselves appear flat chested and shapeless.

Madonna and Child

There was a time when I believed that you belonged to me But now I know your heart is shackled to a memory The more I learn to care for you,the more we drift apart Why cant I free your doubtful mind

Starts at 4:00

As long as you follow the general rules that apply to GreaseSpot, I personally don't see where there would be a problem. It's fairly common here for people to "bump" old threads up to the top.

Women haters??? Oh, my! Like the late, great William Clarke sang: (starts at 4:00) :P

Maybe it's just the power of suggestion but it sure looks like Eve has a bit of an "Adam's apple".

Another love before my time Made your heart sad and blue And so my heart is paying now For things I didn't do In anger unkind words are said that make the tears drops start

I prefer this rendition. :)

AQUALUNG----Jethro Tull

maybe he caught it on surveillance cam.

That's a good point. Use FLO as an example. I have no idea what Limb HQ cost to acquire or what it was sold for. (I do know that it is very prime real estate at the moment.) But, at any given moment in time you had a group of 50 individuals who contracted (Yes, we had to sign a contract that stated we must ABS to remain in the program.) Plus, we paid into a rent fund, a Fellow Laborer fund, paid our own utilities, financially participated in a mandatory food co-op and provided all the various and sundry items necessary to run each house without the financial aid of TWI. AND, we took care of and improved the Limb HQ for free as part of the program. They had to have been realizing a profit by our mere participation.

See? That's the problem. At 52, you're still just a kid trying to sort it out.

It's like everything else. You have to temper it with good sense and a cautionary eye.

No-- At least not as the whole chimichonga. But, I think genetic makeup must factor into the equation somehow. Do we know why one identical twin is a "natural born jock" while the other is intent on creating prose? Maybe there is a genetic component and maybe not. When two dogs are of the same breeding stock, the similarities are usually pronounced. Yet, two humans can be of the same breeding stock (ie: identical twins) and be as different as night and day in the way they express their true self. Perhaps the genetic nuances that cause the dogs to be so similar are akin to the genetic nuances that cause the identical twins to be uniquely different. At any rate, I think the human "authentic self" must be far more complex than the instinctive similarities we see in animals.

Here's an interesting post I found on a music forum: "LOSS OF EMOTIONAL ENGAGEMENT WITH MUSIC One thing that has not been mentioned is that in the last 10 years there has been a seismic shift in the sonics of music. Parallelling the decline of the music industry has been an increase in the loudness of records. By loudness I am talking about the increase in rms (average) volume of a disc in comparison to peak volume. The difference between the two is the dynamic range. The smaller the difference, the louder a disk will sound when compared with a disk with more dynamic range. The music industry thinks this will make a record stand out when on a playlist or in a CD changer. Up to about 1996, dynamic range was almost always 12 dB or more. Between '92-'99, isolated releases began reducing their dynamic range in an attempt to sound louder. Starting in 1999, this isolated trend became generalized. Today, we see major releases with a dynamic range of 2 dB (Metallica). Virtually no major release today has more than 6 dB of range. And just like listening to a monotone speaker is dull because no emotion or sense of dynamism can be transmitted without fluctuations in volume, so too music has become increasingly boring and unengaging. I am not talking about the type of music or the quality of the music itself, but the type and quality of the sound. Musical qualities are things like lyrical content, chord structures, beats etc. Sound qualities are things like volume, dynamic range, distortion, etc. So I am not saying that the music is worse or somehow less creative than it was 10 years ago, only that the sound quality is worse. It's not that people are listening to less mainstream music, it's that they are listening to less music period. And those that do listen to music, do not listen to it with the same degree of attention or emotional involvement. Music has lost it's passionate followers, and become sonic wallpaper to most. And I think part of this is because the music released today contains little to no dynamic range, and has digitally induced distortion and clipping from the process of dynamic compression. To my knowledge, the music industry has not acknowledged the lessening of people's emotional engagement with music, nor have they sought to find an answer to it. And without being able to captivate and emotionally involve their listeners, their customers won't buy their products." - Fritz Gerlich http://harp-l.org/pipermail/harp-l/2009-May/msg00404.html

Yup. Hard to go back (to pre-TWI days) when you've burned all your bridges. I know that feeling quite well myself. (edited for 2x post)

You might just be on to something here. I do think dogs, as well other animals, have an "authentic self" and a "conditioned self" (ie: identity) Domestic cats, for example, have a "true self" that is born with the desire to stalk and kill prey. It's born into them. Ironically, though, they don't quite understand this behavior to be linked to survival. That's where conditioning comes into play. The mother cat not only helps the young ones to hone their skills, she teaches them that their quarry is a source of food and necessary for survival. If those lessons are missed, the cat will grow up to be one that hunts and kills but doesn't quite understand it's supposed to consume its bounty. There are oodles of similar examples in the animal kingdom. I suppose they are most obvious in domesticated breeds. The recent tragedy involving a chimpanzee attack underscores this premise. As much as the owner tried to modify his behavior into one that suited her liking, the chimp eventually reverted to his "true self". Now, of course, it's a good deal more complex with humans because, not only can we think and reason, there are so many more varied and widely diverse examples of humans than there are of chimpanzees, or tabby cats, or snow leopards. So, yes, in a sense, you might say we are denying dogs the opportunity to be their true selves.

It doesn't sound familiar to me.

How about his "revelation"regarding the original sin that he decided to share with us in CF&S? I think about those times when, in the middle of a teaching, he would pretend that God was whispering in his ear. It makes me want to barf. What a shyster!

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