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Colorado

Yeah. It's a well known fact that most marital infidelity is directly related to brain tumors. :wacko:

:)

Just When I Needed You Most Walkin' Blues

Thanks for all the hard work.

Let this moment last forever Yes, it must. And let each passing one seem like our very last Let's pretend tomorrow's just a dream For we will all be one again.

And when I speak of you I see envy in other men's eyes, And I'm well aware of what's on their minds. They pretend to be my friend, when all the time They long to persuade you from my side. They'd give the world and all they own For just one moment we have known.

The End Of The World---------Skeeter Davis

Well, I'm just sayin'----

Sounds like standard Way theology to me. The devil is out to get you. It's up to you to stop him.

AS far back as the early 1970's, it "just" permeated "just" about every prayer and manifestation. (Just thought I would "share" that.)

My situation may not be exactly what you are looking for. Still, I think some of the same elements were involved. I got into The Way as an adult. Then I got my brother into it. He eventually went Minuteman, WC of E and FLO. About the same time, I got my parents involved and my mom became a twig leader. So here's where it gets sticky. After being in FLO for about a year, I started to have some serious reservations about what was actually going on. But, how could I go back to my hometown and tell these people, whom I had gotten so totally immersed, that I might have made a big mistake? Very stressful, to say the least.

Wilted swiss chard salad and a glass of water does not a dinner make. (I think WG will know what I mean.)

I've been dazed and confused for so long it ain't true. :P

Consider this as a twist: Perhaps, had we not become so enamored and defensive of glossolalia, we might have embarked on a quest to uncover the true meaning of Paul's words, "I would that you all spoke with tongues."

Or if you're anything like me, you scurry down to the local grocery and pick up some Glory Foods greens. http://www.gloryfoods.com/Products/Seasoned-Southern-Greens-and-Spinach.aspx

And don't forget the greens. YUM!! http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/beet_greens/

Done With The Devil HEREMy link

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I signed them up for the class. :(

Well, you can't "beat" that.

Exactly! People were practicing glossolalia long before Jesus was ever born. Hence, they could not have "made Jesus Lord". Wierwille latched onto the old glossolalia movement that was re-energized in the early twentieth century and said, "Oh, look, keeds, this MUST be what the Bible is talking about when it refers to speaking in tongues." Toss in a smattering of very "privately interpreted" scriptures and BINGO!, you're going to heaven and all hell can't stop you! Does this mean that the Jews and pagans who practiced glossolalia (which is what we called SIT) before Christ's time are going to heaven, too? We really have no way that I am aware of to know what the Bible is referencing when it talks about speaking in tongues. I'm pretty sure, though, that it's not some process you are required to partake of on a daily (and excessive) basis before you can any hope of having a spiritual connection to God.

Man has already destroyed large and important portions of the Earth and continues to do so at a rapid pace. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation That subject, though, really deserves a thread of its own.

Here's part of the SIT doctrine as presented in the Advanced Class. "Speaking in tongues much daily is prerequisite to receiving revelation." Has anyone ever stopped to consider the absurdity of this? ********************************************** Or how about this from PLAF. "You have to speak in tongues much so the Christ in you will be spiritually nurtured and grow big and strong." Helloooo? You supposedly have this spirit inside you that is completely, completely complete, perfect in every way, but you have to water it and sprinkle on a steady diet of spirit food so it can get more "completer" and more "perfecter"? ************************* These are examples of what I am talking about when I say SIT (Way doctrine regarding speaking in tongues/ glossolalia) is bogus.

I'm not sure what else I could possibly say to stress that I am not interested in validating or invalidating anyone's personal experience with speaking in tongues. My point is simply this: When it comes to spiritual matters, Way doctrine has an extremely low level of credibility. Consider, for example, the Advanced Class teachings on devil spirits, discerning of spirits and the rest of the revelation and impartation manifestations. Think about how far out in la-la land some of that material is. Why, on Earth, should we assume then that the doctrines surrounding the subject of speaking in tongues are any more credible? Should we blindly accept everything that was presented in sessions 11 & 12 as if it is the end all answer to everything you ever wanted to know about speaking in tongues? I think that would be an unwise decision.