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I never had any warnings. The only people who knew anything about TWI were the twig-goers. So all I heard were good things.

Tell it again 'Til someone hears it Tell it---again Come on!---Sing with me!!

I was never in "your rotten army". I guess as a FLO, I was kinda like a reservist. LOL When VPW saw that our franchise operation was draining revenue from his company store operation, he wasted no time in distancing himself from our operation (IMO)

Pond You can't beat yourself up because you allowed yourself to be talked out of what you knew was right. That sort of thing was standard M.O. for anything that might "bring blame to the ministry". If it's any consolation, I, too, experienced something quite similar in the very early days of my Way involvement and yet I stuck around for years afterward.

Hey! Wasn't that a big hit for Johnny Inter-Nash-onal?

I guess my point was that, it parallels the rationalization that lying is "ok" at times. Except that in this instance, suicide (which, in the Advanced Class, was expressly taught to be caused by a devil spirit) was not only "ok" but sanctioned by God. Come to think of it, one of the other spirits listed in the AC was a "lying spirit". (pages 20 & 21, for those who really need to know.)

Actually, the TWI version was "Dick and Jane BELIEVE For The Potty To Flush Itself"

Yeah, maybe that's where I heard it first. It all kinda blends together after a while. But, then it was also taught on a FLO night by Howie Y in 1975 or 1976.

"Bible quote goes here."

I think (only my opinion) that the oral styles that proliferated had a greater impact than the written. Everybody wanted to sound like a clone of VPW or Donnie F. Even a recently posted thread, regarding prayer, seems to fit this homiletic mold.

I heard a similar teaching in FLO,(ie:justification for a seemingly unBiblical practice) regarding an incident that is not found in The Bible. It involves a mass suicide, in the era of the OT, to prevent capture. Anyone recall this one? MASADA

Colorado

Yeah. It's a well known fact that most marital infidelity is directly related to brain tumors. :wacko:

:)

Just When I Needed You Most Walkin' Blues

Thanks for all the hard work.

Let this moment last forever Yes, it must. And let each passing one seem like our very last Let's pretend tomorrow's just a dream For we will all be one again.

And when I speak of you I see envy in other men's eyes, And I'm well aware of what's on their minds. They pretend to be my friend, when all the time They long to persuade you from my side. They'd give the world and all they own For just one moment we have known.

The End Of The World---------Skeeter Davis

Well, I'm just sayin'----

Sounds like standard Way theology to me. The devil is out to get you. It's up to you to stop him.

AS far back as the early 1970's, it "just" permeated "just" about every prayer and manifestation. (Just thought I would "share" that.)

My situation may not be exactly what you are looking for. Still, I think some of the same elements were involved. I got into The Way as an adult. Then I got my brother into it. He eventually went Minuteman, WC of E and FLO. About the same time, I got my parents involved and my mom became a twig leader. So here's where it gets sticky. After being in FLO for about a year, I started to have some serious reservations about what was actually going on. But, how could I go back to my hometown and tell these people, whom I had gotten so totally immersed, that I might have made a big mistake? Very stressful, to say the least.

Wilted swiss chard salad and a glass of water does not a dinner make. (I think WG will know what I mean.)