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Rascal-------You asked about a buffer zone where no unspiritual were allowed to dwell. I remember quite well and this was part of what I was referring to in my post n the "Impossible To--------" thread when I talked about people being tossed out in the middle of the night if they dared to question authority. This wasn't just a "don't come back to our little twig" kind of thing. This was "get hundreds of miles away before the sun comes up" type of thing. I think this is a face of "the way" that many people never even dreamed existed let alone were exposed to. Scriptural references? Yep. Lots of them were given at the time. There always seemed to be some kind of way to rationalize this type of thing but I suspect that to be true in any cult.

"HHHHelp Mr. Wizard!!" Tooter would exclaim as the wizard would utter those words which would activate a tjme vortex that would spin Tooter back to his home in the present. The lesson that Tooter learned from his adventures was that the grass only seems greener on the other side of the fence. In my hometown it was run with the"King Leonardo and His Short Subjects" show.The show also featured a segment called "Fractured Fairy Tales" which was narrated by Edward Everet Horton. Good call, highway29.(Itchy Brother and Biggie Rat are here beside me and they are both saying---------"Next!!"

Trissen trassen trossen trome. Time for this one to go home.

Is that Archie B. speaking to Gloria?

There is also one called ROTO-ZIP. I used one recently to do some work that would have otherwise required a router. It is very similar to Dremel and ,in fact, some of the accessories are interchangable.

That would have to be "Katmandu"--------------Bob Seger You better listen my brother "cause if you do you can hear There are voices still calling across the years And they're cryin' across the ocean And they're cryin' across the land And they will until we all come to understand

The Highway---------Re: VCR's in 1978. In the early 70's, TWI had video tape PLAYERS. They had no recording capability. They were quite large and bulky. I remember them quite well because ,in the course of shopping for a used car, one of the primary features the car had to have was a trunk large enough to easily transport the machine. I think I settled on a 1969 Mercury. Everything in those days was always viewed with the ministry as a crucial factor in decision making. (Is there enough trunk space for the VTP?, is this apartment big enough for fellowships?, will this job offer conflict with class scheduling? and on and on.) As to where the said video may have come from: A very prominent sports program director, Bud M*rgan, was associated with TWI in the early '70's. You may recall he was responsible for the "Rock Of Ages,'71" film that was used for public ex.'s. It is only speculation on my part but since he was part of the ABC production family at the time, he may have also played a part in this production being made available to VPW. Maybe ABC has it in their archive but it was common practise back then to record over previous shows to save money on production costs. Who knew anyone would be interested in it 40 years in the future?

motherof2----------I am probably the worst person in the world to try to help you find things here. There are people,however, who are expert at helping you navigate. The questions you have asked have definite answers and have been discussed at great length here including JCING. I know from experience that family relationships can have a big impact on decisions one makes. Mostly I just wanted to say "welcome" and don't worry about whether something is too controversial.(someone is sure to let you know if you have touched a sore spot)

So much of this reminds me of the old "frog in a frying pan" analogy so many of us have heard. If you put a frog in a hot frying pan he will hop right out. If you put it in a pot of cool water it will swim around happily,oblivious to the fact that you are slowly raising the heat until it's much too late. Maybe I should post this on the "in the kitchen" thread :blink:

We had a place called Royal Castle. They had tiny little burgers that were good for about 2 or 3 bites.You could buy them by the dozen if my memory serves me. They also featured a soft drink called Birch Beer which had a very distinctive flavor of its' own. They had gigantic cinamon rolls and freshly squeezed OJ. I don't remember the price of the burgers but it must have been about a dime each due to the small size.(This is not to be confused with White Castle which is a chain that is currently in business.)

Sorry George----------There are some distinct similarities but this one is from a later era. Clue:---Another very long running and popular current show spun out of this one.

Piper-------Not a derail by any stretch. It sounds like you are starting to see what was really going on. You wanted to be your best for God. You saw it as a strength. They saw it as a vulnerability(IMO). If God really does look on the heart, I think you may be ahead in that race.(by several lengths)

Iffen youze don't mind, could we get smore clues?

Motioning to studio audience the show hostess says: "Go Home! Go Home!"

Grabbing at straws here. Sounds like Hogan's Heros.

Advanced Class 1973--------Vpw declares there are various levels of spiritual understanding with which "The Word" can be received and understood. 1)Milk------ For new babes not yet ready for "heavy" spiritual truth 2)Meat -------For those who have reached a level that deems them worthy of bigger spiritual truths. Christian Family and Sex--------Approx. same time. Vpw,in discussing the "Original Sin", declares"I have no scriptural proof for this but you will have to trust that this is what God has shown me" He then proceeds to describe how Adam masturbated and both he and Eve consumed the "fruit". I heard this teaching many times when I was the designated "instructor". No scriptural proof and yet we bought it . Why? We didn't want to be seen as babes only worthy of milk and don't forget what led to Eves' deception. As for pointing out that it has no scriptural basis: Try that one in Fellowlaborers. Be sure to set your alarm clock for 4 a.m. because that's about the time you will be awakened and informed that the MOG has received revelation that you are to leave the program immediately and never set foot in the state again."Thus saith the Lord." If you don't think these things happened I am quite sure there are some here who could verify.(not that I am volunteering their statements)

Yep. You are right;it was a purse or umbrella now that I think of it. "Verry interesting--------But Schtupid!"!! :)

Picture if you will: 1) A park bench 2) a "dirty old man" with a long raincoat 3) a spinsterly lady with her hair tucked neatly into a hair net

Chatty-----There are a lot of theories on where slide guitar originated. Personally, I think it developed out of necessity. A lot of these guys who we listen to today( like Muddy Waters, Skip James, Booka White,Son House,etc.) were plantation workers by day. At the end of a long day, their hands and fingers had paid the price that hard work requires. Many times they would tune their guitars to an open chord. D was very common but it really doesn't matter. Some would take an old bottle with a straight neck and remove the neck. They would smooth out the edges and use that as a slide. (hence the term "bottleneck guitar") Some used butter knives and old metal sockets. Some used medicine bottles or lip stick tubes. There are no "rules". Most used the slide on their pinky finger because it maximized the use of their other fingers. Use of finger picks is a necessity.(especially if your fingers are already painfully sore from farm work) I have some videos of Muddy playing and the visual aspect adds a whole dimension of its' own. Homespuntapes.com has quite a few instructionals that are excellent. You can buy glass bottle necks already cut and smoothed. Plastic ones don't have a very good sound(imo). Remember! no rules. You find what works for you because that's how these guys stumbled on it in the first place. PS---------If you want an example of what it is NOT supposed to sound like, let me know!

Lots and lots of people questioned the scriptural accuracy of what was being taught and practised. In my opinion, it all boils down to what Lindyhopper cited. Once you bought into the lesson on how Eve was tricked and decided it wasn't going to happen to you, the ground was broken and the seed was sown for further indoctrination. This teaching was perhaps the most powerful segment of PFAL or any other class because it set the stage for allowing something bigger than yourself have the final say in the decisions and actions that followed. This segment holds the very essence of mind control and without it the rest of the class would have been like a Sunday School lesson. Now add to that the concept that revelation can change to meet the immediate situation. And before someone says "chapter and verse, please." rest assured there were many,many scriptures given to supposedly support that stance. Those two items in themselves explain a good deal of how controlling took place but now add these: 1)Leadership might be speaking what was given them by revelation 2)Disobedience to revelation spelled disaster(Lots of scriptures given on this one.) 3)The adversary was lying in wait to consume those who came into an understanding of "The Truth" and then reverted to their former ways 4)Disobedience to leadership was the same as being outside "The Hedge Of Protection" So,why didn't someone simply find scriptural evidence of "wrong-doing"? Because we were led to believe that doing so would be contrary to the spiritual insight we thought we were being shown.

highway29------Good guess but it is neither. The timeframe does coinside with Benny Hill, though.

I raise my glass to toast and shout a hearty "here,here!". Welcome,DC.

Socks-------Does this mean you are going to delay your release of "I Was A Teenage Sea Monkey"? Just curious.

"Do you believe in the hereafter?" YES "Then you know what I'm here after." (slap)

As clues go, that would certainly seem to be "the big one".