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Chatster-------This old clunker doesn't do clips and audio (or steep hills without a downshift). Are you referring to the image of the Dobro/resonator guitar?

The thespian reference makes perfect sense since there were many among them who were highly skilled at "ACTING" genuine . Stanislovski and Strasberg would have delighted in the performances rendered.

The Inner Sanctum That description fits to a tee the same experience I had at AC in '72 or '73. To that I would add that I seem to recall there was blindfolding at the time the sacriment was given. Also,if memory serves me, the hooded figures arrived in single file carrying some sort of actual lanterns. My mouth burned for what seemed like days after that. We were sworn to absolute secrecy not to ever reveal that ritual and as you can see I never have and never will.

If I have understood this thread correctly, the issue at hand is not whether or not adultery is OK, but rather is it advisable to share such secrets within the context of a marriage. Yes the Bible is clear about what conduct is acceptable but I don't recall ever seeing a scripture that addressed what conversations or discussions one should have with their spouse regarding things that may have happened in the past. Such discussions would ,of course, become relavent if there were physical ramifications such as STD's or pregnancy or genetic information that might affect their progeny. Psychological damage might also bring a relevancy to the conversation. The past is passed and can't be changed .There is no blanket, fits all advise that fits every situation unless we are considering the possibility that the situation may reoccur. Then,of course, there is plenty of scripture to refer to and guide us in making proper choices. But hey! That's just my opinion.

LZ---------Happy birthday from a former denizen of the Oddfellows Hall.

Johniam----------The story I heard years ago was that there were some who came to HQ,on their own, even before there was a WC. It kind of reminds me of Marylin On "Northern Exposure" . She showed up in the drs. office and announced she was there to start her job as receptionist . The dr. said he didn't need a receptionist but she persisted and was a staple of the show throughout its' run. I don't know for a fact but I think D@nnie may have been one of those few who reported for work before "the doctor" even knew there was a position to fill. I too heard the stories of living in a teepee in the woods and smoking pot. Contrast that to some of the M&A accounts posted here and it will baffle the mind how allowable practices changed so radically over time. D@nnie was truly one of a kind. One of the good ones was lost when D@nnie passed.

Heartman-------RE: Your requesting clarification of doctine. I remember asking TWI leadership if there was a list of beliefs like those of mainstream denominations. I was told the Word is far too "dynamic" to limit in such a way. What a load of garbage. Either you believe Christ is God or you don't. (Only using this belief as an example) Just come out and state what the beliefs are instead of pretending only the select few could truly understand them. Ironic(imo) that "dynamic" defines exactly what TWI was NOT! (When I say TWI I am not referring to those who were down in the trenches doing what was needed to keep the Word living in peoples' everyday lives.)

I knew the song right away but the artist is a mystery to me. My wife's mother is pretty good with oldies so I might just ask her.

dmiller----------Is it any wonder all their album covers have those "space" motifs?I think I've seen about all of them at one time or another on BET On Jazz. (Jam Sessions). Fleck hasn't taken the banjo to a higher level;He's taken it to 9 or 10 higher levels. Futureman(Victor's brother) can really pound out the "old school" skins too in addition to that wacky gizmo he uses with the Flecktones. One of the former members,Howard Levy, Does a solo piece where he plays two distinctly independent parts on the diatonic harmonica and piano at the same time. It's not a gimick,it's real music at a high level of quality. I think it's called "Duet For One" but I'm not sure on that. It' s not guitar but it's pretty amazing stuff and a valid display of real musicianship

The Goo-Goo Dolls did a cover. Was WW's reference perhaps related to that? Heard this one on XM this morning Now troubles are many There as deep as a well I swear there ain't no heaven And I pray ther ain't no hell But I'll never know by livin' Only my dyin' will tell

According to professor GOOGLE, Way Corps class of '71 consisted of: Gary Curtis,Mike Smith,Bo Reahard,Del Duncan.Randy Anderson,Glenda Sue Maxwell,Naomi Townsand,Nancy Duncan, and Nancy Burton. Class of '72 was the same group except that Glenda Sue was absent and Earl Burton was present.

Don't Fear The Reaper Blue Oyster Biblical Research and Teaching Ministry :blink:

How appropriate to see Derrick (sp?) on stage with one of the original "Dominoes".

Hey! How did "Name That Tune" get all the way over on THIS thread?

About 25 years ago I read a book called "On Death and Dying" written by Elizabeth Kubler-Ross. In the book she states that people facing impending death go through five stages. 1.)denial and isolation 2.)anger 3.)bargaining 4.)depression 5.) acceptance Leaving a long term relationship is much like a form of death whether it be divorce from a marriage or coming to grips with the realization that the group one has exited was actually a cult. Alan W.----------I mean this to imply no disrespect,but is it possible you may be facing some form of this process? There are many here who have reached the acceptance stage and can help those who are still struggling through the first 4.At least consider if this may apply to you . There are many goodhearted folks here on GSC who have open ears to listen and a desire to help others through the struggle.

Coolchef---------"There were good times if you allowed them to roll". I'll second that,brother and plenty of them. Unfortunately for some those good times were at the local level and started to vanish as we "moved up the ladder " of responsability. For me it all changed when I moved on to Fellowlaborers. Suddenly I was in a situation where there were 3 meetings per day,breakfast as a house,dinner as a "branch", required witnessing at our "9-5's",work assignments out the wazoo,not to mention a zero tolerance policy on any kind of drugs,sex, or alcohol. Add to that no dating non FL,no socializing with non FL,no unauthorized trips outside the enclave ,roustings in the middle of the night for reproof sessions or house inspections and virtually no time for any academic consideration or teaching of the Word at all.(And this was 30+ years ago!) And the 2 at all times thing.----YIKES!-----I remember one time my limb leader had me quit my job and move 50+ miles away (just me,myself and I) to set up shop and run classes because there were no believers in that area who had taken the AC. I guess somehow the AC made me more qualified to make sure the chairs were straight and the coffee was ready by breaktime. I just hope any of the locals can forgive me for the time I spent there. The point I'm driving at is that legalism has been a basic tenet of TWI for a very long time. But Yeah!----There were lots and lots of genuinely good times to be had at the grassroots level and allow them to roll we often did.

Eric has a new CD. Very tasty if you lean toward the blues.

Dedicated people at the grassroots level; That's what greased the wheels to keep the TWI machine running on track.Don't get me wrong. I'm sure there were people every bit as committed to serving God at the upper levels but the foot soldiers were what made the army of God victorious. It becomes obvious after reading a few threads that a lot of the good things people remember happened either at the grassroots level or at a micro level within the structure of HQ. Some were Way Corps;some were WOWS;some were everyday folks who stayed right in their hometowns,folks like Ray and Vera who were mentioned on the "Hidden Kitchens" thread. Ray is honored in the "In Memorium" thread very appropriately. When I read his memorium Ithought to myself, "Now THAT'S a REAL man of God! In my opinion ,you can't stay faithful to God's word without staying faithful to serving His people. Without pig roasts and big branch potlucks what is it really but a bunch of people ogling over some Greek words whose original meanings were lost forever centuries ago?

Make a rabbit whip a hound Make a preacher lay his Bible down. That Same Thing-------------Muddy Waters

Linda Z------------Those pig roasts at Ray and Vera's prove there really were some good times to remember in our old WAY days. People looked forward to those all year. Do you remember the clam bakes or had you already left the area by that time? And what Friday night in Cleveland could ever be the same without fishfry and pierogie at every corner tavern? ps.Who stole the kieshka?

OK that last post sounded obscene "I'm talkin' 'bout GUITARS!" "Shut your mouth!"

Chas----------I don't remember the "f" hole but it's been a few years since I actually looked at it. The ugly green finish and leather strap with "Johnny Lee" on it stand out in my memory.

I just got off the phone after talking to a friend of mine. It seems he has a guitar he is considering parting with. I thought perhaps someone here might have some insight on this particular instrument. It is a Spacetone and was made by a company called Microfret. Microfret was in Frederick Maryland and had a limited production for 4 or 5 years. I do not know the serial number and haven't looked at it for a couple of years. As I recall,it is a foam green sort of color done in a similar manner to a sunburst. I have never played it so I can't comment on that aspect at all. Also, it may at one time have been owned by Johnny Lee but that is speculation. Any thoughts?

WASWAY It might be just "Another Saturday Night" but you sure nailed that one. And so it is the baton is passed.

Allan W.----------I too found the PFAL class somewhat beneficial and am prepared to "say so". However: 1.)Much of the material was already available elsewhere. 2.)The long term payment plan for participation was way (and I do mean WAY) too costly. In my opinion, the PFAL class was like that first "free" hit of smack that ultimately extracts a price beyond comprehension. Though the class hinted at academic growth if further participation ensued I never really saw this to be the case. The particular "training" program I was involved with was especially disappointing in this respect. The hook had some inviting bait on it but in the end it was the hook and not the bait that so many found to cause the pain they felt. Just my opinion.