waysider

"If I had a rocket launcher---------" OOPS! I was headed for "Name That Tune"----- or was I?

Yup---------And it wasn't even "Sunday afternoon" yet.-----" You and me and Leslie"----hheee!

I would have responded earlier but I got busy and felt like "I couldn't get away too soon."

Sorry, G.St, G.------------The actual words are " You and me, endlessly---------"

When this song hit the charts in the mid 60's, it sounded like the group was describing a group activity that definately could not have received airplay at that time. It sounded as if they were singing " You and Me And Leslie"

I was tempted to name it but it felt like taking candy out of the mouths of sweet babies,James.

"Mistake by the lake"--------- Clevelanders definately know how to laugh at themselves.-----O.K. That and the fact that the Cuyahoga River became so polluted at one time that it actually caught fire and the flames consumed a bridge. WOW! that was about as far off topic as San Diego is from Cleveland.

RR ------You have to have a loud mouth in Cleveland just to be heard over the polka music and sound of pierogies frying. OH LORD! Now I've gone and ticked off the North Coasters! ------Cleveland Rocks!!

I remember the first time I heard that song. I was on the turpike from Stockbridge to Boston. It almost rocked me to sleep.

SF Sailor--------"They open their mouths and dumb comes out"--------Were you using "they" to refer to the legislative branch of Ohio gvt.?-------You might find a few more people in your corner if that was your implication.-----See There! Diagramming a sentence CAN come in handy.( A little humour there for the older crowd)

"Now kids, fight nice"---------one of my Mom's favorite directives.

After following this thread for a while it has occurred to me that perhaps we sympathize because we see a bit of ourselves in her. How many of us saw and heard things that we, in retrospect, should have acted on? How many of us did act but were ridiculed or condemned? Or even worse, made to think we were putting our loved ones very lives in jeopardy? How many of us bought into the fallacy that we just were not seeing the big picture? Maybe that's part of the lesson in "He who is without sin----------" When we understand why we did what we did or didn't do what we didn't do, maybe we will better understand our sympathies for Mrs. W.--------Just my opinion.

The toughest audience I ever faced when stating" I was in a cult" was myself. I was both disappointed and relieved at the same time. I was disappointed because I felt I had been duped and relieved that Some things I had felt guilt about weren't really worthy of self condemnation. As for others, I think it depends on the situation, the person asking and their motivatuion. Recently, a person who I have known for a couple of years revealed they had been in a cult at one time.(not TWI) It opened the door and we compared notes. It was enlightening on both our parts. I think we both profited. On the other hand, for someone who may be simply looking for something to hold over my head, I simply state I was involved with a bible study group. I never lie about it but l don't go into detail unless I think something positive will come out of a disclosure. Being the one bringing up the issue seems too much to me like witnessing. I don't mind sharing the word with someone who has agenuine curiousity but I hope( slap own wrist for "H" word ,lol) I never again come across like I'm forcing my beliefs on someone.

Sahweeeet!( Does that thing got a Hemi?)-------------Not the dog!!

T-Bone-------No need for embarressment. Playing bass is all about patterns. When you look at a "fake" sheet, what is missing? The left hand(bass part). Why? Because it is assumed the bass line will follow a standard pattern. Just for shirts and girdles play all four strings on each fret while looking at the circle of fifths. BTW.--------- there is a handy dandy way to learn key signatures using the circle of fifths. Again, a google search will lead you there.

Doesn't it just make you want to shout"HALLELUJAH!! I'm free"?

What a great time . so many memories to cherish. The memories will live on long after the photos have vanished. The mind is the greatest camera ever invented because it captures emotions along with the images.

T-Bone----------- The string thing------ You've spent your whole life looking at clocks. There are 12 hours. Coincidentally there are 12 tones in a scale, 12 major keys, 12 minor keys, etc. ------Now picture a clock that has tones/keys/chords in place of the numbers. Google "circle of fifths" for a visual image. I also play bass so this is helpful in moving around the fretboard. Starting with you open strings, you will find that moving from low to high pitch corresponds with moving counterclockwise on the clock/circle of fifths. You will actually be moving in fourths. Your sequence will be 4 o'clock, 3 o'clock, 2 o'clock, 1 o'clock. Now if you are playing a six string, this is the point at which you go back to 5 o'clock and then 4 o'clock. It makes a whole lot more sense if you are actually looking at the "clock". I also use the circle of fifths when I play harmonica. Most blues, rock, country etc. is played in what is called 2nd position by harp players. If the band is in the key of "c" (12 o'clock) I simply move counterclockwise one hour (11 o'clock) and that is the key of the harmonica I need to play in "c". ( that would be an "f" since "f" lives at the 11 o'clock position.) Sounds a lot more complicated than it is. Once you can picture that clock with tones/keys/chords like you did with hours as a youngster some of it will fall into place.

WG----Howdy neighbor!------I'll send you a PM when I can. I'm glad the Wayside wasn't a Marathon back then or I'd have to call myself The Marathoner and old age is setting in do'ntcha know. Maybe we can drag some other FL out of the shadows. Ditto on the familia( I saw how it was made).

Medic's Wife --------"You're going to hate me for this-------" I can only speak for myself but I for one certainly don't hate you for having an opinion on such a controversial issue or for speaking what's on your mind. Discussing important issues is one of the functions Greasespot serves.( OK, that and talking about old TV shows and cool guitars) I think most people here welcome a lively discussion as long as it is within the bounderies of the forum rules. Open discussion and disagreement was something that was frowned on( No, make that snarled at) in TWI. It's refreshing to see things from the perspective of someone who comes from a non-TWI background.

Rhino----------I dunno. Looks more like a Cape Codder to me!

MEDIC'S WIFE--------Sounds like you've hit the "mother lode". Without the love of GOD it's all just a bunch of empty words.

RE: Great guitar solos ------What! No T-Bone walker? How about anything by THE ICEMAN Albert Collins? And just so I don't slight any shredder fan, what about "The Messiah Will Come" by Roy Buchanan? Jimmy Thachery's cover of it got the mechanics down pat but lacked the raw emotion of the original. As for Jeff Healy, I've heard it said he plays, of all things, a SQUIRE. I don't know if it's true but if it is it can only bolster the cred. of his prowess.

Pond----------Thank you for responding to my post. As I stated, I neither condemn nor condone this line of thinking . I merely present it as an expository discourse. I might further add that we were sworn to an oath to never expose what I just exposed. This oath taking was done in what appeared to be a lighthearted spoof of pagan ritual, but one has to wonder how serious the expectations of secrecy may have been. Early on in the growth of TWI we were taught that revelation regarding the present could never ( and I emphasize never) contradict what had already been established in the scriptures. This , of course, was revised by the concept that revelation could change even though the scriptural evidence was weak and selective at best. I'm sure this seems like it is off topic from the discussion on mental illness but hopefully it may be found to be enlightening on what was taught on the subject.

Pond--------sorry. I left out some vital pieces of info. You asked how someone would know of the presenceof such spirits. This would be by operation of the manifestation of "discerning of spirits" wherein GOD tells you directly that a person has a spirit or spirits. Word of knowledge and word of wisdom would then come into play as GOD's way of instructing the "discerner" what if any thing should be done to correct the situation.(ie. casting out the spirits in the name of Jesus Christ). Compare this with VPW's own walk and demise and perhaps it will become apparent why some of these issues seem to be such a really huge subject of controversy.