TrustAndObey

I kind of felt it was like that, more conformity - group think, when we did those. Release sessions were never about real release.. It was more about learning to shut your mouth unless you had something positive that agreed. The problem with most of the ones I was a part of, was there were only so many ways to say "That was some great koolaid" before no one had anything more to add. Back to reading the syllabus so we have something to repeat... But then, every once in a while you'd get that odd person that never realized it was for positive reinforcement only. And while I enjoyed hearing those "mind provoking" thoughts, everyone just looked at them like, How dare you question the MOGFODAT... I think that was about the only time it was a little fun to be there! A still remember a few that made the group leader squirm.. Ahh, but it never woke me up..

Minister.... Lol.... All I see "ministers" doing these days is showing off their pompous arse and trying to make little minions that imitate their every move and believe their every word.. Classes.. Teachings.. So he spouted off what he wanted everyone to hear. A scripture here, a verse there, a plagiarized book on yonder. Yet, when it came to really helping someone. You know, their "real" needs, not the invisible needs that he helped by forcing his "non-expert biblical" opinion on, he was void of any real help. Never saw any real blood, sweat, and tears the MOG did working to help the other man... Unless it was helping blind the other man so he could take his wife.

Is that go as in go away??

Personally I think he understood marriage as much as he understood the original Greek and Hebrew... And if you think he knew either of those... Well, I have a nice oceanfront island to sell you [Did I mention it is at the bottom]

Looks like some great lists to me!

I've fallen and I can't get up.

encore encore... I demand an encore! Edited: Oh, I thought we were still on break... DOh.. Sorry.. Carry on..

There is a chat room.. Only, right now, it looks like it hasn't really been used since no one knows when someone else is there.. So I'm going to map it into the entire site, so people aren't so "distant" in an empty chat room.. lol.. (This is still future of course since the chat room is actually a very new software addition as opposed to the forums themselves..)

Steveo, You are now setup to reply/add topics.. There is a post/reply button.. It just wasn't showing until your account was given security.

Next thing you know, Hitler wasn't an evil man either. I mean, he was the ruler of a country who like many thought the nation he ruled was there for his own pleasure.. Lots of non-Germans and empty gas chambers, and he's not suppose to notice? I mean, rather than adding to the unemployment rate, he was able to give all Germans a job. Just gave them a few bullets and something to aim at. Look at that, no more jobless folks. :confused: :confused:

Was that when they started pushing married couples to get 2 copies.. Maybe that was '98... I remember thinking how stupid that was.. But of course then they implemented that the fellowships have one night a week devoted to reviewing the mag, which meant everyone ought to have a copy in their hand.. You think that all went hand in hand to drive up way mag and revenue?! Just glad I were single.. But I felt sorry for those married. Just seemed like they added weight upon weight to them, and once budgeting and scheduling came down the pipe and more forced at the twig level.. Yeah, that's when a lot of &@#$%& hit the fan. Control Control Control, all in the name of God, but honestly it looked more like the green god..

I think a good amount of twig coords and all were pretty honest folks. Caring, kind, helpful.. Showed decent Christian character.. It was once they moved up the ladder, or were pressed on by their "leaders", that those some kind caring people did the most harm.. Who'd expect them to lead them wrong when for the most part they have been caring. So, they teach on ABS, teach the 10% or more tithe as if God needs their money, oh, I mean , yes, the hoarding board needs that $. Just sad.

And not only do they want us to think what they think.. They want us to think what they think is 100% accurate instead of something they have arrived at over time with changes along the way.. And of course they want us to NOT think any further.. Not only have they NOT figured anything new out. Everything they have arrived at, since they are still selling TWI wares, tells me they haven't really gone far in their journey, at least not in a positive Christian perspective. They have gone far in the opposing direction.. With such things as we now have an imperfect God and Christ that makes mistakes, and personal prophecies that come out of.. a nose maybe?!

Maybe that is just part of the problem.. Some might "think" that these things written in the scriptures are "promises", but are they? "I wish thou mayest prosper and be in health." You know, if I told someone that, they certainly wouldn't hold me to that as if I promised them something. I don't know. I just don't see a lot of things we were taught as promises as actually being promises in the way we were taught.. That and this mathmatical a + b =c, so you just do this and this and you get result c... Yeah, I don't think God works like that. To me, I say we just don't understand God.. And no one will. And anymore than I understand my best friend or my parents, sometimes they do the things I ask and sometimes they don't. I just don't buy into these things like their ice cold calculations, rather than relationships that are built, and reasonings that are beyond me because I don't control the world or other people, and certainly not God. I have enough to control my life. So what others make avail;able (maybe promise) and do, that's great, but I don't require it and I won't wait for it. I trust God has our best interest at heart. And that is what pistis is. Trust. I trust Him to His stuff and I don't assume to understand it and make mathematical calculations out of it.

Funny how she "claims" to not have noticed how far off everything was with Martindale and co till the $h1t hit the fan. Probably the mastermind scheming it all. And now, nothing fits.. Back to the drawing board, redefining everything..

But what if you are the type of person that is attached to their old shoes.. Their just so comfortable, I tell you.. Especially my shirts from HS.. Just cause it has a few holes.. It's fine around the house.. (At least that's what I tell myself). lol..

Don't despair.. I'll try and explain. When you first register, it does not automatically grant you posting rights. Oh wait a second, ok, good, now it doesn't.. DOH, had a new forum just added a minute ago marked wrong.. This is to prevent new 'unknowns' from coming on at midnight and posting a bunch of lewd pictures and such.. So, someone has to grant you higher rights after you sign up. Although, you are free to join in the chatroom and talk after you register and login. And you can see a few more non-public forums after you sign in. But no posting until someone gives you more rights. (And by the power vested in me by Kugna Lugna, I now pronounce you post worthy.. [Please don't kick me now])

I never knew JB enough to know... Did he have that much influence on the whole organization? I mean, he wasn't part of the prophetic council or anything I don't recall.. Maybe he felt left out! But then again, I think many have/had high hopes for the ministry. I mean, how many ministries have their own Bible translation, sure some cults. Oh wait, is that was STFI is? lol.. I mean, really, do we need another ASV/RSV spin off that tells us about another MOGFODAT. Yes, I know it doesn't add that, but it really doesn't change much either.

Yes, we are still in the beginning stages, and it seems everytime I try and make changes which at first was just looks, seemed to break the functionality.. So, posting new topics got broke. Modifying posts got broke.. Adding posts got broke.. I'm not sure I should touch it.. lol.. Kidding. It's fixed now. But profile password changes, I'm still making modifications to the look so I have it offline, will add this week though. (Which will allow changes to your picture [squirrelly if you like] and passwords and such..] Sorry for the delay and problems! Oh, and the validation code was removed!

Lol.. Classic case of a group of narcissistic people who are taught ad hominem as a legitimate art form.. Yeah, Satan already mastered it.

I'd say that someone who would have grown adults sign out to go for a restroom break, or who micromanages every little detail and has to have schedules to know what people are doing has really got mental issues. Control freaks.. Is Rosie one of em.. I'm no psychologist.. And this is only my opinion and not fact, but her actions surely speak pretty loud compared to other control freaks I've know, as they are all paranoid or maybe just plain annoying..

I noticed a very select few have registered but the email with the sign on password was unable to be sent from www.exwayvision.com (came back undeliverable) due to being blocked.. Mostly this is from those using att.net & sbcglobal email addresses (They agree to whitelist us, then they blacklist us, then they agree to whitelist and then blacklist for no reason..) So while I'm having a hard time to get them to send mail to their servers (even though yahoo.com/gmail/hotmail and the likes all work and att uses yahoo services), att/swbell is blocking.. So, if you are one that didn't receive your password in the mail, let me know with a private message here and I'll make sure you get it. Sorry bout that. T&O

What i think is the worse though, is that they "ask" or suggest one ought to give a percentage to der ministry, yet many in the group are barely living on pb&j 3 meals a day and that there $ could help a many hungry souls (and I don't mean hungry for da verd).

The only thing I recall was reading the Vision and Direction document and it containing quotas referring to outreach and growth within the areas as far as # of people.. I believe there is a copy of the Vision and Direction document on here you could look at.. But it doesn't have $$ in it.. But then again, increase of people usually tends to bring in more $, and it is possible it could have been part of their intent..

Ok, so it is officially up and running.. www.exwayvision.com Only like leafytwiglet said, it will definitely be morphing along the way. Right now, it is kind of the shell. With very little in it. Certainly nothing malicious there, but let me know if you do encounter issues. There was an issue with posting, but that has been fixed. And many have mentioned they hate the validation code required to post or register, so that may be removed. Will be working on adding more content soon..