Kit Sober

Received this in email today, and was reminded of so many nice things that the Holy Spirit has taught us, and thought you would like it.

Thanks, Sudo. Steve Hill, a precious little one who passed away, often spoke and put into his written works the story of how, after he was born again, got involved in a Christian cult, and was repulsed by the hypocrisy of using "grace" as a license to sin. So thankful he had sense enough to quit that place. So wish I had sense enough to get out. (I probably wouldn't have left except Craig M@tind@ale kicked me out.) So sad that so many precious little ones stayed so long and had their ministries "way-laid." Steve Hill's memorial thread

(I was going to say a joke and say we did deserve it, but that is too ugly a statement to be funny.)

Candy Cane recipes Sweetener for coffee or tea is nice. (That's what I do with the little candy canes left over from Christmas.) Take some to work for others. There's gazillion recipes because peppermint is so very nice, with its fresh and clean sweetness.

Karl Kahler on Facebook recently had a discussion about subject, with a bunch of ideas and suggestions from others. I guess it is all in how you look at the stuff. I put mine in the trash only because I couldn't burn it due to burn laws. But getting rid of the stuff certainly helped clear my head and allowed me to go forward. "good luck." :)

The amazing new products address a need: prepare food better, perhaps. We needed to know The Lord and be able to read The Bible. We may not need a vegematic to slice, dice and chop food because there are other ways to get the same result. And we certainly did not need to be lured into a cult. I am thankful for the Bible, but so very sorry it came with so much hurt and dirt. Steve Hill, a wonderful evangelist who recently passed away, spoke about how, when he was first coming to know The Lord, he was introduced to a group that spoke a lot of Bible, but was filled with hypocrisy because they didn't live it (drugs and sex instead of holiness), so he left that bunch because it didn't make sense, and ended up with some sound Christians, and he was able to do much for The Lord. It makes me cry to think of how many wonderful people wasted that call of God upon them because all the hurt and dirt clouded us up. To me. It is so very sad.

So sorry Excathedra The first red flag that meant something was when I got a copy of pfal and really listened to it without the blinders of utmost devotion and heard the yelling and ugliness. There were many I ignored, such as having so little family time for my real family, being isolated from my precious family that wasn't in twi, being yelled at (when Bible clearly speaks of us as sheep, who need a gentle hand), etc. etc. I couldn't really see anything until after I was kicked out. Oh how I thank the Lord again and again for Trashnet, WayDale, and this here Greasespot Café.!!!!!

Well. I am an Internal Auditor. When I lived in my first Way Home, some of us were taking stuff from the same company we all worked at (big business across the street). I would take the stuff back. I am also one who picks up trash on the street. So. That having been said: My opinion is that every fraud hurts everyone, including the fraudster. It's my opinion that you are helping everyone, including the fraudster who is your best friend, to keep things on the up and up. Blue Bloods, a tv show I watch, last night deal with this same issue: Danny wanted to fudge a little, and during the family sunday evening dinner, the majority response was that there was no excuse for compromising one's ethics. And Danny "did the right thing," and it was all for the good. It is my opinion that to hold one's voice when one has the opportunity to be heard on the side of doing the right thing, to not speak is to hurt one's own soul.

SIDE NOTE RE CATHOLICS: Some of the nicest people I have known are Catholics, and many of the nicest ones in twi and ex-twi for me (then and now) had been raised Catholics. Judging from "you can tell a tree by its fruit" logic, it seems to me that Catholics are doing things truly right. That's one of the reasons I became a Catholic. I find Catholics are the ones in the world who care more about living as the Lord directs. My Bible knowledge: I ras raised going to a Unitarian church, and there were only sermons on living nicely, nothing Bible. At home on Christmas and Easter, Dad would read the Bible (without commentary) So I trusted the Bible was true, but had no history with it, other than reading it, so I was prime gullible candidate for the "explanations" pandered by twi. And because I was raised to simply believe what was written in the Bible, it never occurred to me that someone would use it for their own personal gain.

Bringing forward as a reminder of precious memories. Precious people's posts who helped us move forward with our lives "with dawn in our eyes" once again. Thanks so much. :)

So very glad, Skyrider, that you brought this kindness into people's life. Ice cream has always been for me the touch of God's happiness. I am still getting nice laughs from Duck Dynasty. Hope you did have fun with your ice cream. I wonder if we will have ice cream in heaven. Ice cream is definitely one of the blessings of life in the here and now. I have seriously cut down on my ice cream intake due to cholesterol concerns, definitely looking forward to the heavenly version. :)

I continue to get a few good laughs from Duck Dynasty. twi is still no laughing matter judging from the posts here. A nice bowl of ice cream isn't even funny to their management. :)

Anyone who wants to help Pawtucket keep GreaseSpot Café open can always add their 2 cents through PayPal. There is a link on the home page. here

arrogance is one of the great killers of relationship with the Holy Spirit. Moses was meek above all men, and he knew the Lord face to face. Arrogance and its supercilious air is always my enemy because it's death to my relationship with the Holy Spirit, which is so very precious.

I don't think it's you at all. I think it's part of the effect of twi we have not dealt with. Pawtucket did a major work of bringing folks together, physically, having a nice time, but I don't know how much of that kept on after he kinda lost interest. I know meeting some of the Greasespot Café folks was a precious life experience I cherish. I would come, except I hardly go out. Being deaf makes communication so difficult it is much easier to hide than to face the music (which I can't hear any longer). Being forced to interact with people is one of the main reasons I am so thankful to have found a job, which keeps me communicating and interacting with people. I don't know what it is that makes up for a hermit type of life, but I think that whatever it is, it came over many people when we left twi. I was thinking that maybe it was some kind of heart-break of trust we experienced. (I totally trusted in twi.) Thinking about that heart-break, I have gone back to praying for "the healer of broken hearts" to mend shattered dreams once again, for me as well as for so many broken hearted folks who were once a part of twi.

LINK: finding a friend after a long while I became discouraged thinking about this (the absence of true friends). I have had a couple, but they passed away. Then I saw this on the aol news and was encouraged. There is no end to the time of our life we may find a friend. Thanks for this topic.

In for 20+ years. Out for 19. Still trying to reconcile twi mindset with life in the real world and with regular non-ex-cult folks. The people who have helped me most of all to keep in touch with living and growing closer to people and to the Lord have been usual church people.

Pretty sad to me. Only a very few folks I thought were true blue life long friends. Thanks to facebook and this place and an email group I hear from some, but interestingly, most of the extwi folks I am in touch with now I did not know during the twi years. On the internet I use my real name, Kit Sober so if anyone wants to contact me they can, and my kitsober@aol.com email address I had since the beginning of computer time, so I know it's not that I am hiding out. Most insightful thread, this subject has been a concern to me for many years. Would love to understand it.

Precious people with stuff to say worth listening to. Able to speak what's on my mind and have an opinion. Good coffee.

So thankful for hopeful news. Praying for you upon every remembrance. :)

Thanks. Appreciate your kindness.

I received a syllabus from a friend. And was looking through it for some Jesus Christ references. It amazed me how little there was about Jesus Christ. Pathetic i bought into it for so long.

What wayside said, except I can't hear the song.

Congratulations :) When my sister did 5 years it was nice, but I am now always careful to pray for her, where before I kinda took her for granted.