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Kevlar2000

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  1. It's called coercion and intimidation. They are techniques of abuse. And they are often used because they work. Until someone decides to fight back.
  2. d, Perhaps the year was 1972? I remember seeing a picture of the Advanced Class participants when it was held in Rye that year in an old Way Magazine. Also, I'm not sure there were enough "believers" in NY to hold an Advanced Class in 1968 (but I could be wrong about that - any of the "groovy Christians" here at GS know differently?)
  3. I certainly do not, and wouldn't mind one bit if they closed shop tomorrow. And what difference would it make if it did? There are enough "fish-eaters and bone-spitters" to make sure at least some parts of its dogma will last at least into the next century, if not beyond.
  4. Dooj, You may be interested to know the saying, "God is in the details", is a quote from Ludwig Mies van der Rohe, a famous architect of the early 20th century. I believe he also coined the phrase, "Less is more".
  5. I would be concerned he would think that refers to a peculiar and bizarre form of a n a l intercourse. Don't do it, Craig!
  6. All of the above is simply proof positive that the Way's outreach strategies are finely honed and crafted by their Department of Redundancy Department.
  7. *with a slight tremor in my voice* Yooou arrre eeeeevvviiiiiiilllll!
  8. WTH, I believe that was off the album, "The Star of the Show" by Pressed Down, Shaken Together and Running Over. Don't know which person in the band had the actual songwriter credit.
  9. Because they know it's crap! They know it! They don't need you, me or anybody else to tell them; they already know it! But they still hang onto it because years ago, a man who was probably insane at the time made these idiotic declarations and either intimated or came right out and said this was the word and will of God. And his sucessor won't come right out and say that it's not, because that would then throw into question and debate every pronouncement, postulation, teaching, preaching, lesson, claim of the miraculous and demand for blind dogmatic adherence and allegiance that organization has ever made - starting with its founder and including every person that has used its foundational materials to expound what they allow as "The rightly-divided word and will of God." And the one thing that organization is absolutely not set up to withstand is question and debate. So the minions give the assent to ridiculous policies and dogma, all the while looking for "work-arounds" to get the things they need, because they still have the belief that no one offers the "package" like the Way International, and they don't want to be outside the hedgehog of God's protection. Leadership won't tell you they're having the same problems "working" this as you, because they know "mark and avoid" is still practiced in TWI, regardless of how "kinder and gentler" it is now, and it's hellishly cold outside the walls of Zion. How the hell have they gotten people to buy into this crap for so long? Maybe that's the key to their success.
  10. Chatty, Here's an Irish toast - somewhat odd at the beginning, but with a lovely thought at the end: Here's to your coffin..... May it be made out of 300 year oaks, Which I'll go plant tomorrow. A very happy birthday to you, Chatty!
  11. Well, let's see... "The manifestation of forgetfulness is your operation of the neurologically-given ability whereby you may be able to...uh...something something...by it being taken from you to, ahhh... What was the question, again?" :)
  12. Friendly competition? Maybe more like a hostile takeover.
  13. I would think it's either genuine prophecy - or it's not. As such, what's said are God's words and are not subject to quality assurance/quality control by a human agency. Of course, if it's not genuine, you can critique it all you like. Or ignore it altogether. But that's the Way for you - the quality and weight of your prophecy is dependent on how smart you are, how well spoken you are, how "mature in the Word" you are, how "like-minded" you are, how much you salaam the "ministry that taught us the Word".
  14. Kevlar2000

    St Patty's Day

    Dad's parents were from Ireland; his cousins still live in the same house/general store/post office/farm my grandfather grew up in. Not entirely sure where Dad's mother was from; just know her last name was Feeney. Happy St. Patrick's Day everyone!
  15. I always had a vague unease about how Way leaders could define what kind of message was "brought forth" from interpretation of tongues and prophecy; kinda like stepping on God's toes. God knows what message He wants to deliver. What's next - telling you what your tongue has to sound like? We were constantly told we had to "develop" our tongue - Isn't what comes out of your mouth God's prerogative? "Well, Kevlar, you didn't have enough "LoShantas" in your tongue - are you sure you don't have a counterfeit? And what was that about "Mala alakazam oh meet me at the tiki bar"? :lol: Maybe it's just me, but for those of you who heard Mr. Wierwille's tongue, did it sound to you like he was saying the same words over and over and over? Like I said, maybe it's just me. :huh:
  16. They haven't a clue as to what God wants you to do. Otherwise, they would be able to tell you exactly what God said to you, when He said it, and where He said it. They would have presented it to you in a way that would have made you think, "You know, you're right - he did tell me, and I didn't follow through. I'm sorry, Lord." At best, it's "Genuine Spiritual Suspicion"; at worst, it's unwarranted and unethical attempts at coercive mental manipulation. Feel free to "fire" them as your spiritual overseers. Many of us did, and we are completely better off for having done it.
  17. A "Far Side" cartoon comes to mind, in which a dog and his owner are driving away in a car; the dog sticks his head out of the window and says something like this to his buddy, "I'm a lucky dog! I'm going to the vet to get tutored!" All you Way Corps candidates, Good luck getting tutored.
  18. Now that would be a useful emoticon!
  19. Happy belated, lindy! Boy, I tell ya, some apple crisp would go well with this nice steaming hot cuppa joe the cafe is serving right now. Yep, sure would be tasty. Ummmmhmmmm, sure 'nuff. You betcha. (where's the drool emoticon?)
  20. Bumpy, I would imagine few people in the U.S. would have heard about this, especially from HQ. It would not have fit their "no negatives" policy to disseminate this kind of information. I was "in" during the years you cited, and this is the first I'm hearing of it.
  21. I remember someone's signature line on this forum reading something like this: Some people see the glass as half full. Others see it half empty. I just want to know who's been drinking my beer! I'm being forced to become more pragmatic in my thinking due to age and experience, but retain a core of optimistic expectation. It used to be, "Thinketh no evil..." Now it's, "Where there's smoke, there's probably a burning bag of s--t on my doorstep. Maybe somebody left it there by mistake." My ideal? Wise as serpents, harmless as doves. (Don't splatter me, Psalmie!) :D :P
  22. Lindy, that woman's initials aren't S. E., are they?
  23. Kevlar2000

    Puzzled ?

    She musta been talkin' about me, WordWolf. :)
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