Rocky

You make some good points there. As to not clicking on links without knowing what it is, THAT is why I post the preview. If that doesn't interest you, fine. Don't participate in any discussion about something you don't care to view. However, I pick up a bit of an attitude in your comment. I do, however, disagree with you about not providing a starting place for discussion. Pardon me if I didn't provide ENOUGH discussion to interest you. I certainly did NOT give anyone a homework assignment. If there are other things contributing to your mood, I wish you well.

Isn't that STILL you declaring judgment on a person for their words even when you don't know what's in their heart? Fine, you don't like it. Fine, you "mind less..." but how does that impact what you believe your responsibility as a Christian would be to such people? Whether it's apparent incongruity about their salvation or anything else? I mean, come on... I'm not judging you. I'm just asking you to judge your words and your actions.

Attack? What attack? Wasn't I merely posting my opinion? Touchy much? Are you saying "freedom of speech" protects you from someone reflecting on and calling attention to what you post? Are you saying people who claim to be Christian DO have to justify themselves in words? Whatever happened to no one knows, other than God, what's in the heart of a person? I mean, it's not like putting someone on trial for a crime, is it? So, WordWolf, are you saying you have an opinion about Kristin du Mez' testimony? If so, why not just post it in terms of what your response is to her words?

Holy CARP! I mean WOW! I had no idea that YOU, TLC (does that still mean Tender Loving Care?) are the ULTIMATE JUDGE? Here's the first 12 verses of the Book of James chapter 4 1What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? 2You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God. 3When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. 4You adulterous people, a don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. 5Or do you think Scripture says without reason that he jealously longs for the spirit he has caused to dwell in us b ? 6But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: “God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.” c 7Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up. 11Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister d or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. 12There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor? **** OTOH, I posted the YT video, not to evaluate or cast aspersions on historian Kristin du Mez's personal testimony (about anything) but rather to address a different question, which, she for herself, answers as well as or better than anyone could answer for her. As for myself, I asked Ham for clarification. As best I can tell, he wonderfully clarified the message underlying his comment. I appreciate him having done so. I wish for you today, a huge heaping helping of tender loving care... whether you identify as a Christian or not.

Today, Amazon.com is selling the Kindle version of this book for $3.99 Print editions are currently $28.61 (hardcover) and $14.50 (paperback).

oh, okay. So you're okay with others listening to Kristin du Mez' explain why she's still a Christian, I suppose.

I don't see any reason why it would be deleted. Have you had posts deleted before that you thought should not have been? The person in question apparently IS a public figure who has been credibly accused. IHOPKC also posted a video on FB. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=172641609261928

Is that why YOU, Ham, are still a Christian? Or is that your assessment of Kristin Du Mez' declaration of faith?

Historian Kristin Du Mez responds to the question from the Holy Post podcast. Kristin has written Jesus and John Wayne.

Well... plenty of warmth available, perhaps you have to give to someone who might need it. Not so easy to have regenerative conversation with you, however, since your posts seem entirely, since you re-emerged, to be excessively cryptic. I suspect there might be others willing to share warmth with you if you were to be less cryptic. Take care friend.

As my manner is, I picked up this book from my local public library today. You're Not Listening: What You're Missing and Why it Matters. To some, this may seem off topic, but I submit it goes somewhat directly to Twinky's concern AND to the noticeably cerebral post our good friend sirguessalot interjected. I mean that in a positive way. And I am almost certainly as lacking as anyone in effort put into "listening" to my fellow GSC posters.

btw, I read books I buy from Amazon using the Kindle app for PC... most of the time.

https://www.amazon.com/Undertow-Escape-Fundamentalism-Control-International-ebook/dp/B06ZY8HVKS/

This can be helpful insight too.

Don't be too hard on yourself.

Of course, I reply NOT to contradict Raf's insight, instead to highlight it. From the linked definition: intransitive verb To explain or justify (one's behavior) with incorrect reasons or excuses, often without conscious awareness. intransitive verb To dismiss or minimize the significance of (something) by means of an explanation or excuse.

He was a good man. It was/is a great loss.

Whatever it is is MUCH bigger, IMO, than anything related to Victor Wierwille or his private interpretation ministry.

Perhaps some people will view this as heresy and/or blasphemy... but can research along these lines be stopped? What's the latest word from medical ethicists? Homo Deus

Remember what Albert Einstein said about how imagination is a bigger deal than knowledge... or something like that. Can you imagine this?

Apparently this is a different verse.

Are you experiencing a denial of service because you think I post too much?

For there is no creature whose inward being is so strong that it is not greatly determined by the world around it. —GEORGE ELIOT, MIDDLEMARCH Gordon, Deborah M.. The Ecology of Collective Behavior (p. v). Princeton University Press. Kindle Edition.