WordWolf

"I've gotta try to set the record straight about the last fifty-two hours. I don't know who's gonna hear this. I don't even know if I'll be alive by the time this log is recovered. I figure they'll be coming after me."

http://www.biblegateway.com/ Ok. My points, I think, are easy to track from Scripture. First of all, reincarnation is dismissed, in case anyone asks. Hebrews 9:27. NIV. 27Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, NASB. 27And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, KJV. 27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Death ONCE, then judgement. If one just reads this, it's easy to see how some people ended up with the doctrine that judgement for each person IMMEDIATELY follows that person's death. The one catch, of course, is that Scripture shows judgement occurring for lots of people at once, and that all in the future, NOT one at a time at each person's death. It does not say "IMMEDIATELY after this the judgment" or "IMMEDIATELY after this comes judgment". In the absence of an explanation that outlines judgment much later, an IMMEDIATE judgment remains a possibility. However, the outlining of the judgments clearly show them as future events. No matter if you think the Christians are in the First Resurrection, or if you think they precede it in a "Rapture", they're still judged in the future. This should not be a major surprise to most regulars here, but it WOULD shock a lot of people. I operate under a few basic assumptions, when studying the Day of Judgment. The first is that each person will be judged ONCE, and be exempt from any later judgments as a result. (Other assumptions center around the usual- the Bible is accurate, the translators make mistakes but the originals lacked mistakes, etc.) ============= Now, then, I make GREAT exception over the inconsistent translation-at least in the KJV where I studied it out- of the Greek words "krima" and "krisis". Both words are virtually interchangeable as "judgment." However, they are not translated CONSISTENTLY (at least in the KJV.) Sometimes they are translated "judgment", sometimes "condemnation", sometimes "damnation." Now, those are words that have VERY different meanings. "Judgment" can be FOR a person or AGAINST a person. The word "judgment" does not indicate the direction of a verdict. "Condemnation" means a judgment was made, a verdict was rendered-AGAINST the person. "Damnation" is even stronger than "condemnation", the ULTIMATE verdict was rendered AGAINST the person. In the interest of clarity, there should be ONE word in English for ONE word in Greek. (In this case, for BOTH words in Greek, actually.) That it should be "judgment" and not "condemnation" nor "damnation" is clear when seen in this verse: Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! "Condemnation" could not fit in this sentence, nor could "damnation." But it's the same Greek word as in verse 29 here: John 5:28-29. 28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. As the translators rendered this, the good people go to the resurrection of life-and presumably live, and the bad people go to the resurrection of damnation-and presumably suffer an eternal punishment- destruction, eternal flame, whatever your theology claims. However, repair the translator's error, and the resurrections become "life" and "judgment", which are not opposite words. The translator let his doctrine affect his work. But we can repair that easily enough, if we dare to. The problem then becomes the doctrines based on the translational errors- the expectation that the second resurrection equalled damnation for the attendees. When one reads the actual account of it, however, that is not what it says. ===================== For the first of the events, as I see them, we look at the "Rapture", the Blessed Hope, our gathering together unto him. Right now, things are as they are now. You need no verses to tell you what it's like now. Things will change, however, at a point in the future. What changes them, and how do they change? KJV II Thessalonians 2:3-4 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. "A falling away". "Ha apostasia." Literally, "a moving away from." Some people say it's a negative movement, and transliterated it "apostasy." Some people say it's a positive movement, and translated it "departure." (twi did, anyway.) Frankly, it doesn't really matter WHICH you render it, since there's 2 events simultaneous to each other, one is an apostasy, one is a departure. II Thessalonians 2:7 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. The "apostasy", the rise of the Man of Sins, the Son of Perdition, ("the anti-Christ") can't happen while God's Protection prevents it. The thing is, God's Protection is on THE CHRISTIANS. Remove all the Christians from the planet at once, (in a "Rapture", say), and God's Protection goes with them, leaving the planet unprotected, which would permit the rise of evil and the beginning of the End Times. ============ This has happened before, on a much smaller scale...... Genesis 19. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. The cities were so wicked, they were slated for destruction- except for Lot, the only righteous man in TWO cities. Lot was told the cities were going to be destroyed for their wickedness. He was told to leave immediately, and to make his family leave immediately. It's pretty straightforward. Until you read verse 22. 15And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city. 16And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city. 17And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed. 18And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my LORD: 19Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die: 20Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live. 21And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken. 22Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar. God's Protection was on Lot. As soon as Lot left the cities, they were given over to destruction. ====================== I Corinthians 15:51-54 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. I Thessalonians 4:13-17 (KJV) 13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (NASB) 13But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. I consider the end, "so we shall always be with the Lord" to be of critical importance in understanding the events to come. From the time of the fulfillment of that verse onward, we will be with Jesus. Where he is, we are. Where we are, he is. ================= I'm sure lots of people are still convinced that WE don't go anywhere until the First Resurrection. That's all the way in Revelation 20, after Jesus returns dramatically and delivers a major smackdown at the end of Revelation 19. Of course, it's also after all the events of Revelation 1-19. I'd like to mention "wrath" for a moment. Romans 5:9 KJV Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. NASB Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. I Thessalonians 1:10 KJV And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. NASB and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come. I Thessalonians 5:9 KJV For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, NASB For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, ===== What is "the wrath to come"? It's in Revelation. The early chapters are warnings, and announcements of things that will shortly come to pass. Events begin happening with the breaking of the seals- those begin in Revelation 6. KJV 1And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. 3And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. 5And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. 7And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. 9And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. 12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? ========== NASB 1Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, "Come." 2I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. 3When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come." 4And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him. 5When He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, "Come " I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6And I heard something like a voice in the center of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine." 7When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, "Come." 8I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth. 9When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; 10and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" 11And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also. 12I looked when He broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair, and the whole moon became like blood; 13and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts its unripe figs when shaken by a great wind. 14The sky was split apart like a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; 16and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?" ============= Terrifying things happen- conquest, slaughter, famine, pestilence, earthquakes, and more. It's "THE WRATH OF THE LAMB", "THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH." Am I concerned about living through it? Not a bit. I'm saved from wrath, I'm delivered from wrath, I'm not appointed to wrath. Now, those people who expect Christians to live through "the Tribulation" and not be "Raptured" are welcome to compose any theory they like on how they can be saved from earthquakes, etc while living through them, or find some other event and call that "wrath" as well. (I haven't found another future "wrath", so I don't give good odds for finding another event CALLED "wrath.") To me, the most logical reason we're not appointed to suffer through the day of wrath is that we aren't here at all- We are gathered together out of here, the Protection of God leaves the Earth, the Man of Sins is revealed, and the End Times proceed. The day of wrath happens, and is finished before we return years later (at the end of Revelation 19, still with Jesus as he returns to Earth to open up a tremendous can of whupass on the Man of Sins and all of his.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/health/0...html?ref=health CAIRO — Egypt has begun forcibly slaughtering the country’s pig herds as a precaution against swine flu, a move that the United Nations described as “a real mistake” and one that is prompting anger among the country’s pig farmers. The decision, announced Wednesday, is already adding new strains to the tense relations between Egypt’s majority Muslims and its Coptic Christians. Most of Egypt’s pig farmers are Christians, and some accuse the government of using swine flu fears to punish them economically. According to World Health Organization officials, the decision to kill pigs has no scientific basis. “We don’t see any evidence that anyone is getting infected from pigs,” said Dr. Keiji Fukuda, the World Health Organization’s assistant director general. “This appears to be a virus which is moving from person to person.” The outbreak has been dubbed swine flu — now officially called influenza A(H1N1) — because scientists believe it started in pigs, but they do not know if that was recently or years ago. The name change was designed to allay fears about pigs and eating pork. Egypt has not reported any cases of the new virus that has hit 11 other nations, but the country has been hard hit by avian flu. The great majority of Egyptians are Muslim and do not eat pork because of religious restrictions, but about 10 percent of the population is Coptic Christian. As a result, Egyptian pig farmers are overwhelmingly Christian. And although some of the country’s Christians are middle class or wealthy, the Christian farmers are generally poor. On Thursday, several urban pig farmers in Cairo said they see the government’s decision as just another expression of Egyptian Muslims’ resentment against Christians. Last year, there were several violent incidents that some believed were aimed at Christians, including the kidnapping and beating of monks. The Egyptian government denied the incidents had sectarian overtones, saying they were each part of other disputes, including a fight over land. Barsoum Girgis, a 26-year-old pig farmer, lives in a poor neighborhood, Manshiet Nasser, built along the Mukatam cliffs on the eastern end of the city where most of the ramshackle, red-brick buildings were built illegally. Mr. Girgis makes his living through a combination of raising pigs and collecting garbage — two professions that are often tied together in a city where garbage collection can be an informal affair and where poor farmers rely on food scraps to feed their livestock. He wakes up every morning around 4 a.m. to collect garbage around the city. When he gets back to Manshiet Nasser, at around 9 a.m., he sorts the trash, putting aside what can be sold at the city’s booming scrap markets and what he can use as pig feed. “The government here is going after our livelihood,” he said, nervously playing with a wooden cross he wears around his neck. “These pigs are perfectly healthy. How am I going to feed my children and send them to school without my livestock?” Mr. Girgis lives with his extended family, about 30 people, in the first two floors of a building that leans against a cliff. His 60 small pigs live on the ground floor. They have dark, furry skin, and their squeals can be heard a block away from Mr. Girgis’ home. Many of Cairo’s pig farmers live in similar conditions, sharing their small spaces in the teeming city with their animals. After international health officials criticized Egypt’s decision to kill about 300,000 pigs, the Agriculture Ministry’s head of infectious diseases, Saber Abdel Aziz Galal, explained that the cull was “a general health measure,” according to Agence France-Presse. "It is good to restructure this kind of breeding in good farms, not on rubbish," the agency quoted him as saying. “We will build new farms in special areas, like in Europe,” he said. “Within two years the pigs will return, but we need first to build new farms." It remains unclear if the government will compensate the farmers for their losses. The Health Ministry originally said the farmers would be paid, but after many in Parliament disagreed, the ministry appeared to back down. Some in Cairo, anxious over the reports of swine flu agree, with the government’s move. “Now we know there is a reason God bans pigs: they spread sickness” said Mohsen Hamady, a 50-year-old accountant who was sipping tea after work in a Cairo tea house. But many pig farmers say they do a valuable service for the rest of Cairo that will be recognized only if they stop picking up the trash. “If they take away our pigs, why would we go collect their garbage every morning?” said Marcos Shalab, a 40-year-old pig farmer in Manshiet Nasser. Mr. Girgis echoed this feeling. “We are Christian, and we are the underclass, so it’s very easy to go after us. But this city relies on us to process its waste. It relies on the pigs.”

That second quote is definitely from the original series. I need to let the details surface in my brain. Ok, they surfaced. Kirk was on trial for killing a crewman. But the crewman faked his own death, and faked the footage of Kirk pushing the button. They moved the trial to the Enterprise, and McCoy used a common microphone/delicate medical instrument to delete the sounds of their heartbeats, leaving the sound of one heartbeat on the ship- the "dead guy".

http://xkcd.com/574/

There are more than 2 different events. As I understand them-and I can lay it out verse by verse when I have time- the order of events goes as follows: 1) right now 2) the Blessed Hope, aka the Rapture, aka our Gathering Together unto him (which leaves everyone on Earth who is living but not born again) 3) the Tribulation (7 years, includes many events, outlined in Revelation, including the Great Tribulation, and the Day of God's Wrath of Revelation 6) 4) the Glorious Appearing (Revelation 19)- the first VISIBLE appearance of Jesus to Earth since the Ascension, accompanies by those of the Blessed Hope/Rapture & various angels 5) A big fight immediately follows. 6) The Resurrection of the Just, aka the First Resurrection, aka the better Resurrection, aka the Resurrection of Life. That's when all those "righteous" not Born Again are selected out. (Like the saints of the Tribulation, and John the Baptist, and the Old Testament saints, and so on.) (Early Revelation 20.) 7) The imprisonment of the devil for 1000 years. 8) 1000 years later, the devil is released, and the last battle occurs, ending with the Lake of Fire. 9) After the battle comes the Second Resurrection, aka, the Resurrection of the Unjustified, aka the Resurrection of Judgement. At that time, the last of those selected by God are gathered, and those NOT selected by God are gathered, and the unrighteous get destroyed in the Lake of Fire, while the righteous are NOT. 10) The new Heaven and New Earth of Revelation 21 and so on. In none of those events do I see us remaining permanently in Heaven. We stop there during the Tribulation and Day of Wrath, but otherwise accompany Jesus. He seems to relocate to the new Earth. If that's where he is, then that's where we are. This all became a lot clearer to me when I made two realizations: A) One verse in the Gospels that calls one Resurrection the Resurrection of LIFE, and the other the Resurrection of DAMNATION. HOWEVER, the Greek word is the same Greek word translated JUDGEMENT in other verses. Some translator decided to render "judgement" as "condemnation" in some places, and "damnation" in other places, deciding by himself what those judgements would render. Once I saw that, I made the second realization. B) The Gathering Together/Blessed Hope/Rapture is very different from either Resurrection. The First Resurrection is very different from the Second Resurrection. In the GT/BH/R, there is "judgement", but no one's life is hazarded-their reward is at stake. In the First Resurrection, the "judgement" is similar (the other circumstances differ greatly.) In the Second Resurrection, the "judgement" is a full "judgement", with examination of the deeds of most of humanity, and actual decisions as to their dispositions are made. (Read the 2nd half of Revelation 20 for a pretty straightforward description.) Those who are judged unworthy are destroyed in the Lake of Fire. Those who are judged worthy (remember, they weren't born again and weren't saints of the Tribulation or the OT) are called righteous and enter into a kingdom.... DESPITE NOT BEING BELIEVERS IN CHRIST OR YHWH. Preposterous, you say. Matthew 25:31-46. 31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. ============= That's NOT the GT/BH/R. THIS is the GT/BH/R judgement: I Corinthians 3:10-15. 10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. It's not the First Resurrection, because Revelation 20:4-6 shows no DIVISION, and all the First Resurrection members are exempted from the Lake of Fire ("the second death.") 4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. The only Resurrection with ANY split is the Second Resurrection, which is why it's the Resurrection of JUDGEMENT. Revelation 20:11-15. 11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. If they "pass" it's because of "their works". That's EXACTLY what Matthew 25 said, and it elaborated on that. Revelation 21:1-4. 1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Let's see. Male doctor eliminates ST:TNG. The year eliminates that prequel show we never watched. IIRC, TOS is also eliminated with that year reference. That leaves DS9 or Voyager with male doctors (Bashir or the EMH.) I'm dubious about it being Voyager- not because we didn't watch it much, but references to Romulans in the Delta Quadrant are rare. So, I think it's DS9, but that's all I have so far.

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Satire IS protected under fair use. twi, as usual, rattled their sabers and bluffed. YouTube rolled over.

"Bonanza"?

It is indeed. ================ "Did you hear Wesley almost got kicked out of the academy? They caught him smoking pot!" "Pot? Ah. Marijuana - a narcotic obtained from the hemp plant. Cannabis. Weed. Mary Jane. Grass. Reefer. Panama red..." No, wait, that's not an episode quote. Your turn, George. :)

"Inquiry- the word 'snoop'?" "Data, how can you be programmed as a virtual encyclopedia of human information without knowing a simple word like 'snoop'?" "Possibility... a kind of human behavior I was not designed to emulate?" "It means 'to spy, to sneak' ... " "Ah! To seek covertly, to go stealthily, to slink, slither..." "Exactly, yes." "... to glide, creep, skulk, pussyfoot, gumshoe ..." "Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the communists. All it takes is a few good men. " "He's using our shuttlecraft to transfer an admiral over to the Hood." "An admiral?" "He's been aboard all day, sir, checking over medical layout."

No, the DEAD LINK is still on the main page here at GreaseSpot. The thing that was here was always a hotlink to the YouTube page. When the YouTube video left, the hotlink just became cosmetic. (Click it and see. I just did to confirm this.)

Not the correct episode.

"Inquiry- the word 'snoop'?" "Data, how can you be programmed as a virtual encyclopedia of human information without knowing a simple word like 'snoop'?" "Possibility... a kind of human behavior I was not designed to emulate?" "It means 'to spy, to sneak' ... " "Ah! To seek covertly, to go stealthily, to slink, slither..." "Exactly, yes." "... to glide, creep, skulk, pussyfoot, gumshoe ..."

Then again, Paul Revere got a lot of credit for the rides of a lot of people.... William Dawes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dawes Samuel Prescott http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Prescott the REAL long-range rider, Israel Bissell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Bissell http://boston1775.blogspot.com/2007/04/isr...-and-press.html and the Midnight Riders http://colonial-america.suite101.com/artic...s_april_19_1775 http://colonial-america.suite101.com/artic...midnight_riders

It certainly began to fill in the characters more-they had family, backgrounds, personalities, family with personalities. "I have all the specs and diagrams at home" "Dad" Rozhenko had all the layouts for the Galaxy-class ship, and visited while the Enterprise was in spacedock. "I always thought you needed a little humiliation-or was it humility" "they took everything I was--I couldn't stop them" Jean-Luc Picard, to his brother, about what the Borg did to him. " this is going to be with you a long time-live with it below the sea with Louis, or above the clouds with the Enterprise" Picard had an offer to stay and do oceanography work, and could do that or return to the Enterprise. "I still don't like you" I'm not positive about the other quotes.

It's the ST:TNG episode just after the Borg Massacre and the Federation stopping them. Worf deals with a visit from the Rozhenkos who raised him, Picard goes to LaBarre, France to visit his brother's family. Was the episode called "Family"?

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I'm sure a lot of high-schoolers will be celebrating it, that's for sure.....

How old when joining, and how old when leaving, are both noteworthy. What year you joined, and what year you left, are both noteworthy.

*searches* Looks like, if you only go by what people are SAYING about twi, more people know it as a group that produces horrible, "so-bad-it's-funny" videos than "know it" as "the truth".

http://www.schoolhouserock.tv/Shot.html http://www-personal.umich.edu/~varnum/Stor...se.html#History "The British are coming! The British are coming!" Now, the ride of Paul Revere Set the nation on its ear, And the shot at Lexington heard 'round the world, When the British fired in the early dawn The War of Independence had begun, The die was cast, the rebel flag unfurled. And on to Concord marched the foe To seize the arsenal there you know, Waking folks searching all around Till our militia stopped them in their tracks, At the old North Bridge we turned them back And chased those Redcoats back to Boston town. And the shot heard 'round the world Was the start of the Revolution. The Minute Men were ready, on the move. Take your powder, and take your gun. Report to General Washington. Hurry men, there's not an hour to lose! http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/pro...57826&itm=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VQA5NDNkUM

If there's as many as 1,500 adults, I'd be shocked.