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I know and agree...I guess I shouldn't have put but in there as in but in contrast. Sorry about that. I was just putting more in put of my thoughts. We are in agreement.....

Eagle, Who in the heck cares? :blink: Go at it and don't care what others think. If they leave you they weren't really your true friends in the first place!!!

aawwww jonny and here I thought you were trying to pick me up with that line not to be funny..... :( It is a good pick up line hehe

Yes, but it is rather nice that they help people in the community. I have met a couple of them and have been very impressed with them just wanting to help people. No pressure. A lot different than twi when we were WOW's. We were there for them only if they expressed interest in PFAL. If they needed help but wasn't interested then forget them.

Gosh Jonny you know exactly what I mean. I would never cheat on my partner but geez there are some people out there that reek sexuality....

Ala has the froggie? ALA where are you? I picked it because I collect frogs...wha wha, LOL Thanks

Sexy is what they believe in themselves. For instance my co-worker introduced me to her boyfriend and immediately he just oozed sexuality. Was it in his smile or body actions? It sure did make my heart beat faster.... For famous people I go for as being sexy George Clooney, Julio Eglisias (my spelling is way off), Rock Hudson (Do I dare even mention him?) and Chuck Connors(in his day). For the women's side Sophia Loren, Rechel Welch (spelling), Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield. I don't know about now though with the women. So I believe that sexy doesn't have to do how your treated in a relationship but how they generate something from within themselves.

The way I look at it is that if someone that was in TWI is not willing to say they were in a cult or even that it was cultish they either never experienced what some others experienced or they are not willing to except that they were conned. Most likely the latter.

Wow, Raf!!!!! I am so impressed!!!!!!!! Congratulations!!!!!!! :) :) :)

Yep that is what we've done here at our home for the tough ones we were trying to get out. We hooked up a chain and pulled it out. Works well here.

ha what goes around comes around....

darn it Shellon, I had taken my time off and now look!!!!! Thanks all for wishing me another year of getting older....I appreciate it. Oh and how do I get my froggie or clown or something on? Its been so long I wonder what I was...hehe

I wouldn't be surprised if most of ex-twi people were either ADD or ADHD. Think about it...we were taught to act with the first thought. Perfect for add and adhd ers, wouldn't you say? I also have adult adhd. I was tested about a year ago and am on concerta. It has worked wonders for me and I'm able to concentrate at work and able to have normal conversations with people without changing the subject all the time. I'm also able to remember things. I was getting worried I was in the process of alzheimers since my grandmother has it and I worked for a number of years with alzheimers patients. Boy, was I relieved to find out it was adhd!!!

I like the idea of B & M towing and the logo BMT. It sounds professional. Its short initials and easy to remember. Also, B is towards the beginning of the alpabet so it would be up towards the first for towing in the yellow pages in the telephone book, which is always a plus.

I wonder if this is the reason when I was a twig coordinator and was getting lots of people coming. We had a wonderful fellowship. They took me off as being a twig coordinator and put me in one farther away that was not any fun and put a guy in place where I was that knew nothing at all on how to run one and had no common sense at all. I saw this kind of thing happen year after year. Now why is it that they made dumb decisions if it was going too good? Doesn't even make sense at all, except that the higher beings were jealous maybe? :(-->

Don't be surprised if the people that you think are so loving turn out to be not so loving when you leave. Who I thought were my best friends weren't the friends I thought they were. My best friend was the one that turned on me and told everyone I was possessed. The problem with that though was everyone had known me for years and knew I wasn't so they all ended up at my house one evening asking me what happened. When they were their people from twi came storming in my house and told them to leave. Well you can imagine what their response was. A lot of people in that area left because of it. I just wanted to leave quietly but twi wouldn't let it be quiet. I know they say it has changed. I have a very hard time believing that. As you can see some people that just left even a year ago still had problems with twi. That was just a year ago. They can change the clothing on the outside but they can't change whats on the inside. Their hearts are hardened from years of evil. People that are movitivated for the wrong reasons. I know its scarey to even think about leaving. But really when you do leave it will be like walking in fresh air after being in a small room with people that hadn't bathed for a long period of time. It is very refreshing. And very healing. Sure it may hurt for a while but the feeling of being on your own and not being a kid anymore is very invigrating. You can do whatever you want without asking for permission and don't have to feel guilty if you don't go to twig because you want to spend time with your family. And you will find that God is more loving than what you realized and that what you were told about if you leave that the hedge of protection from God won't be there and something bad is going to happen to you is BS. Heck even if you don't abundant share God is still there for you. God is so much bigger than this. Twi just told these things to keep people in fear of leaving. So in simple words, it is not as scarey to leave twi as one may think. Try it you may just like it.

I understand how you all feel about checking churches out. I felt the same way. I got into twi as a teen and left in my thirties. I was scared to death to try a church. The first couple of times I went I did it for the kids and it was ok. The sermons didn't effect me one way or another but the kids loved it. Then I went to a church that really hit my heart. The first time I went I balled like a baby. Everything hit me like a ton of bricks. These people showed the love that I saw when I first started with twi and the fellowship with them was wonderful. The kids really loved this one too. They had a youth pastor that when I went to get my daughter who was in high school at the time, I couldn't believe the response the kids were giving. The youth pastor was so motivating you would not even had heard a pin drop. Not a muscle moved. There were about fifty teens there. It was so electrifying to see kids so in tune. One day after church my daughter came to me crying and I asked her what was wrong. She cried, I just love this church and the people!!!! I was sorry that we left that church as we had to move away. I've tried a couple of more churches, some good some not so good. There were two other churches in that I did find that were just as close as the other one. The church I go to now has a pastor that is so nonjudgemental. And is very inspiring and motivating. Sure these churches don't teach everything I thought was the truth. I have found that most things I thought were the truth were wrong anyways and what I thought was really important was not all that important. It was I that was being judgemental of these wonderful people. I tried one of the offshoots but was not impressed with them. I didn't like some of the new stuff they were presenting. I felt that they were trying to be really different from twi but their set up was too similar. Plus the teachings didn't do anything for me.

Are you thinking about going back to twi? Is that what I'm reading? If you are thinking about it I would think long and hard before making any major decisions. And after being here in gs for a while why would you want to go back?

Well, if it is very important then it would be worth a try.

I agree, twi didn't offer too much of a choice. I married the first time when I was thirty. I must have been desparate. I was afraid that I would never marry and end up to be an old maid. Now, I met a man in my later fourties and have a wonderful relationship. He is my soul mate. No control and we have some interests that are the same and some that aren't. It works very well. He also made a wonderful father to my two kids that needed a good role model. I think marrying at a later age is good. You know what you want in life and you are your own person in your own right. The only problem with that is that if you want children you usually need to have them before fourty five or fifty. That doesn't leave much time.

I remember as a teen asking my parents if I could go to the rock. They asked you want to go to a rock and see this doctor weirwolf? No way!!!!! So, I had to wait until I was 18 to go. Now looking back I can understand why they were so adamant of me not being so involved with twi. It does sound weird now that I'm out.....lol

I think making new friends is a good way. Get involved in organizations that interest you. It takes time to cultivate a friendship. Not the way it was in twi. Whats nice about cultivating it is that you will find good friends with the same interests. It took me years to figure that one out. I couldn't figure out how to make a friend. I could put a class together and witness for twi but when it came down to it I didn't know myself to find a friend for me without promoting classes. I don't think that is what real friendship is all about. I totally understand how you feel, Belle. I think that is why some people may return for a while after leaving twi. They are lonely, only to find that they don't feel the same way about twi as they once did.

Shell, sorry it took so long to reply. Now that you have been set up you can go to yahoo the main page and at the top you will see different things you can go to. Groups, Chat, etc. Click on groups and it will have our group there now that your a member. On your left side it will list weightlossupport that is our group. Or if you wish you can just send out emails and everyone will receive it as a post. Don't have to go to the site if you don't want to.

Ok shellon, I just approved you. Congrats!!! and thankyou!!