No one criticizes music choices here so I reckon I won't be the first. But man.. being classically trained (I went through college on a music scholarship) its hard for me to keep my mouth shut about how terrible I think most of our music is today. Gawd, I scroll though this thread and lament about how awful the music is. I'm posting a selection however that i think is pretty good. Know who wrote it? It might surprise you!
I always found the song a bit too sappy and maudlin. Also, it seemed more than a little incongruous for a 17 year-old (or however old she was, she looked pretty young) singing a song reminiscing about days gone by. But, I remember liking it at the time.
I find most all pop music to be pretty banal, boring, and just regurgitated crap (ESPECIALLY C&W, which should be a capital crime to perform IMNSHO). Hence, I just don't listen to any of it. I've got a pretty good selection of old jazz standards, listen to Steely Dan or Spiro Gyra or other Jazz/rock fusion sorta stuff, but that's pretty much it. Anything else makes me ill.
Have you noticed how those "killer" bands of our youth seem to have lost a lot of their lustre as well (or is it just me)? I listened to an old "Led Zeppelin" album a while back and was stunned at how really vapid and empty their music was. As a kid I'd always thought it was SOOO "heavy", but now I realize it was just loud and obnoxious. Not a lot else going on there.
You don't like C&W, eh? As I said its all a matter of taste but I much prefer "outlaws" like Waylon, Willie or even Johnny Cash to ANY kind of fusion jazz. But.. that's just me. Here's another enjoyable classic from a rock group who knew how to play in something other than the 3 chord standard and yes.. I know its also in minor key like "Those were the Days" that I posted and most computer speakers don't do justice to the song.. especially at the 2:10 mark here where the bass takes over. Maybe I just prefer minor key at this point in my life.
Hmmm.. just me I see. No use posting any of the three B's??? This is one thing I miss about hanging out with my music buddies from Ole Miss. We all loved the classics *AND* the popular tunes with musicality (is that a word??). I don't post on this thread much but I'll give it one more try just hoping I find a kindred spirit.... This is one I uploaded to Youtube myself.
I'll bet that your "three Bs" don't include Butterfield, Bishop and Bloomfield do they? (they were favs of mine when I was a lad - "The Three Bs of Blues")
About the closest I get to true "classics" in music is "The William Tell Overture", which I think is about the coolest piece of music ever written. Beethoven, Bach, Brahms, yeah, I can listen to them, but they really don't "reach" me. I used to have a roommate who was absolutely stoned crazy for Rachmaninov and - to a lesser extent - Tchaikovsky. But anyone with less than a hardcore Russian heritage was suspect in his book. Taste is an odd thing.
You know I like Willy Nelson a bit. But, I don't really think of him as C&W. He's much more of a Swing or Jazz musician than Country, IMHO. But Waylon Jennings, though I'm sure he was a wonderful human being, wasn't much of a musician at all. Geeze, he wrote the SAME song over and over again. (Just try it sometime, sing the lyrics of any of his songs to the music of any of the others, it all fits perfectly, basically it was the same song with slightly different lyrics).
And I'm kinda surprised that you, being schooled in music, don't care for the jazz genre. Art Tatum, Thelonious Monk, Django Rhinehardt, Miles Davis, and all the others. These guys didn't just PLAY music, they lived and breathed it. They sweated it out of their pores. I can't imagine anyone NOT loving that stuff. It's just so good.
I think I can relate to the mood you may be in right now, and the type of music you're inclined towards. Have you ever listened to Joni Mitchell's "Both Sides Now" album? It's a collection of swing-era and some modern "love" songs (and songs about what happens when love goes wrong). She did it just a few years ago. I really identified with a lot of what she put into that album.
But then, I've always had a softspot for Ms. Mitchell, -'cept she reminds me too much of my horribly misspent youth...
Someone (on another site I'm on), just asked what that "captivating" bagpipe tune was that was being played over and over for the opening of the Olympic Games. He'd never heard of Scotland the Brave.
Listening to this, I immediately realized that Gershwin musta gotten at least a little inspiration from the "stride" pianists of the day, James Johnson, Fats Waller, and maybe even Art Tatum.
And here's another one from Tatum - when I heard this for the first time, it brought me to tears, not sure exactly why even, as I never even liked "The Wizard of Oz". There must be something more that Mr. Tatum was able to communicate than just words can explain:
hiya george, sudo, waytsider, rainbow's girl, dmiller, a la prochaine, bfh, bullwinkl, and all other greasespotcafe music lovers who post here on this thread!!!
i firmly believe that music is the best total communicator of the incredibly diverse, profound and all-encompassing nature of the human spirit, and the infinte experiences of the human soul!.......i believe it is a very necessary responsibility of all parents everywhere to expose their babies to music from day one of their lives!........music is the voice of humanity, common to us all........a great uniter of us all in the broad range of all our common emotions and experiences........i believe all schools everywhere should include "music appreciation" in their curriculums as a top priority, and it should never be cut due to budget or any otrher constraints!!!.......that's my opinion!!!
having been born to a german lutheran mother and a russian jewish father, both of whom loved the great music and literature of their cultures, and enjoying the further serendipity of growing up in new york city with the benefits of a prosperous middle class socioeconomic "status", my exposure to the fine arts available because of my parents love for them, and the various world class concert halls and museums in nyc, is "quirk of fate" for which i am truly grateful for!........the only music i really can't seem to like is "gangsta rap".........but, other than that, there seems to be great stuff to be enjoyed and learned from every type of music played with skill and love, imho!
regarding "the classics", sudo,........my folks took me to carnegie hall for my first concert in 1954, when i was three.........we made regular visits to philharmonic hall and lincoln center, especially to bernstein's young peoples' concerts........at the age of seven, on a 14 month visit to my maternal grandparents in germany, my folks took my sister and i to the vienna opera house, the louvre in france, royal albert hall in london to see the london philharmonic, and to so many great places and events it makes my head spin to this day!!!!...........funny you posted beautiful dreamer from mighty joe young........my favorite "tune" when i get into a "mighty joe young" kinda bad mood, is beethoven's 6th symphony, the pastorale........though i prefer bruno walter when it comes to beethoven, i couldn't find a good version of his on you tube, so, the following will have to do!........there isn't much beethoven, mozart, haydn, bach, tchaikofsky i don't like.........but, if i had to pick my favorite beethoven symphony of the nine, i'd pick the sixth!......great for a sunday morning.......or saturday for that matter................enjoy.........peace.
though the most well known, the above is only the first movement of eine kleine nachtmusik!.......had trouble finding one with all four movements together, so here they all are, one-at-a-time!
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check out the joyful smile on this kid's face at the end of her incredible performance!.............that's "music appreciation"!!!
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another smile on an older face!........this guy can fiddle dmiller!
one of the greatest "keyboard players" of all time, imho!!.......almost 80 years older than little amy, but that same smile, and exultation at the end of his performance!!
Damn! It's unbelieveable what all is posted on utube now.
I've been fooling around there, looking up all sorts of (what I thought were) really obscure tunes, only to find out that they're ALL there. I can't seem to think of anything song ever recorded that's not already up.
Check out this one for anyone with fond memories of 1968, it has it's timeframe written all over it
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No one criticizes music choices here so I reckon I won't be the first. But man.. being classically trained (I went through college on a music scholarship) its hard for me to keep my mouth shut about how terrible I think most of our music is today. Gawd, I scroll though this thread and lament about how awful the music is. I'm posting a selection however that i think is pretty good. Know who wrote it? It might surprise you!
Its all a matter of taste is it not?
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Here's the Wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Those_Were_the_Days_(song)
Sir Paul produced it as one of the very first non-Beatle efforts generated from the (then) newly built Apple Studios
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The words and music were by some Russians, IIRC.
I always found the song a bit too sappy and maudlin. Also, it seemed more than a little incongruous for a 17 year-old (or however old she was, she looked pretty young) singing a song reminiscing about days gone by. But, I remember liking it at the time.
I find most all pop music to be pretty banal, boring, and just regurgitated crap (ESPECIALLY C&W, which should be a capital crime to perform IMNSHO). Hence, I just don't listen to any of it. I've got a pretty good selection of old jazz standards, listen to Steely Dan or Spiro Gyra or other Jazz/rock fusion sorta stuff, but that's pretty much it. Anything else makes me ill.
Have you noticed how those "killer" bands of our youth seem to have lost a lot of their lustre as well (or is it just me)? I listened to an old "Led Zeppelin" album a while back and was stunned at how really vapid and empty their music was. As a kid I'd always thought it was SOOO "heavy", but now I realize it was just loud and obnoxious. Not a lot else going on there.
Maybe I"M just too old?
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Oh! And "Manhattan Transfer", I LOVE "Manhattan Transfer"
Speaking of which:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNNzarG15tU...feature=related
For an old lady, she still had some chops, huh?
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Geo,
You don't like C&W, eh? As I said its all a matter of taste but I much prefer "outlaws" like Waylon, Willie or even Johnny Cash to ANY kind of fusion jazz. But.. that's just me. Here's another enjoyable classic from a rock group who knew how to play in something other than the 3 chord standard and yes.. I know its also in minor key like "Those were the Days" that I posted and most computer speakers don't do justice to the song.. especially at the 2:10 mark here where the bass takes over. Maybe I just prefer minor key at this point in my life.
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Hmmm.. just me I see. No use posting any of the three B's??? This is one thing I miss about hanging out with my music buddies from Ole Miss. We all loved the classics *AND* the popular tunes with musicality (is that a word??). I don't post on this thread much but I'll give it one more try just hoping I find a kindred spirit.... This is one I uploaded to Youtube myself.
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I'll bet that your "three Bs" don't include Butterfield, Bishop and Bloomfield do they? (they were favs of mine when I was a lad - "The Three Bs of Blues")
About the closest I get to true "classics" in music is "The William Tell Overture", which I think is about the coolest piece of music ever written. Beethoven, Bach, Brahms, yeah, I can listen to them, but they really don't "reach" me. I used to have a roommate who was absolutely stoned crazy for Rachmaninov and - to a lesser extent - Tchaikovsky. But anyone with less than a hardcore Russian heritage was suspect in his book. Taste is an odd thing.
You know I like Willy Nelson a bit. But, I don't really think of him as C&W. He's much more of a Swing or Jazz musician than Country, IMHO. But Waylon Jennings, though I'm sure he was a wonderful human being, wasn't much of a musician at all. Geeze, he wrote the SAME song over and over again. (Just try it sometime, sing the lyrics of any of his songs to the music of any of the others, it all fits perfectly, basically it was the same song with slightly different lyrics).
And I'm kinda surprised that you, being schooled in music, don't care for the jazz genre. Art Tatum, Thelonious Monk, Django Rhinehardt, Miles Davis, and all the others. These guys didn't just PLAY music, they lived and breathed it. They sweated it out of their pores. I can't imagine anyone NOT loving that stuff. It's just so good.
I think I can relate to the mood you may be in right now, and the type of music you're inclined towards. Have you ever listened to Joni Mitchell's "Both Sides Now" album? It's a collection of swing-era and some modern "love" songs (and songs about what happens when love goes wrong). She did it just a few years ago. I really identified with a lot of what she put into that album.
But then, I've always had a softspot for Ms. Mitchell, -'cept she reminds me too much of my horribly misspent youth...
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Some "minor music" for Sudo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEzsPGHsi90
Here is the classical piece that provided the framework for Eric Carmen's All By Myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RXnorFwfPA...feature=related
And here are 'The Three B's" for Geo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gchIPjvIx6k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHQmc4NF3hw
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Someone (on another site I'm on), just asked what that "captivating" bagpipe tune was that was being played over and over for the opening of the Olympic Games. He'd never heard of Scotland the Brave.
cool tune!
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Oh, and here's another piece that I've always enjoyed (here performed by the Man himself), that sorta qualifies as "classic":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O7qZnqflxM
Listening to this, I immediately realized that Gershwin musta gotten at least a little inspiration from the "stride" pianists of the day, James Johnson, Fats Waller, and maybe even Art Tatum.
And here's another one from Tatum - when I heard this for the first time, it brought me to tears, not sure exactly why even, as I never even liked "The Wizard of Oz". There must be something more that Mr. Tatum was able to communicate than just words can explain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSts6kS8Xk0...feature=related
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Here's one I can listen to anytime.
Bill Evans----Waltz For Debby
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hiya george, sudo, waytsider, rainbow's girl, dmiller, a la prochaine, bfh, bullwinkl, and all other greasespotcafe music lovers who post here on this thread!!!
i firmly believe that music is the best total communicator of the incredibly diverse, profound and all-encompassing nature of the human spirit, and the infinte experiences of the human soul!.......i believe it is a very necessary responsibility of all parents everywhere to expose their babies to music from day one of their lives!........music is the voice of humanity, common to us all........a great uniter of us all in the broad range of all our common emotions and experiences........i believe all schools everywhere should include "music appreciation" in their curriculums as a top priority, and it should never be cut due to budget or any otrher constraints!!!.......that's my opinion!!!
having been born to a german lutheran mother and a russian jewish father, both of whom loved the great music and literature of their cultures, and enjoying the further serendipity of growing up in new york city with the benefits of a prosperous middle class socioeconomic "status", my exposure to the fine arts available because of my parents love for them, and the various world class concert halls and museums in nyc, is "quirk of fate" for which i am truly grateful for!........the only music i really can't seem to like is "gangsta rap".........but, other than that, there seems to be great stuff to be enjoyed and learned from every type of music played with skill and love, imho!
regarding "the classics", sudo,........my folks took me to carnegie hall for my first concert in 1954, when i was three.........we made regular visits to philharmonic hall and lincoln center, especially to bernstein's young peoples' concerts........at the age of seven, on a 14 month visit to my maternal grandparents in germany, my folks took my sister and i to the vienna opera house, the louvre in france, royal albert hall in london to see the london philharmonic, and to so many great places and events it makes my head spin to this day!!!!...........funny you posted beautiful dreamer from mighty joe young........my favorite "tune" when i get into a "mighty joe young" kinda bad mood, is beethoven's 6th symphony, the pastorale........though i prefer bruno walter when it comes to beethoven, i couldn't find a good version of his on you tube, so, the following will have to do!........there isn't much beethoven, mozart, haydn, bach, tchaikofsky i don't like.........but, if i had to pick my favorite beethoven symphony of the nine, i'd pick the sixth!......great for a sunday morning.......or saturday for that matter................enjoy.........peace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZGb-Kjy0S0#
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probably, one of my favorite mozart tunes!.......along with billions of other folks who love it too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jh8_x2FwSM#
though the most well known, the above is only the first movement of eine kleine nachtmusik!.......had trouble finding one with all four movements together, so here they all are, one-at-a-time!
check out the joyful smile on this kid's face at the end of her incredible performance!.............that's "music appreciation"!!!
another smile on an older face!........this guy can fiddle dmiller!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVSgx7gKc_k...feature=related#
one of the greatest "keyboard players" of all time, imho!!.......almost 80 years older than little amy, but that same smile, and exultation at the end of his performance!!
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I worked in an underground mine for 3 and a half years, and drove a carpool for most of that time.
On occasion, I would pop in a tape of Beethoven's 5th during the 30-45 minute drive.
As I walked around underground, I could always tell where my fellow carpoolers were by the whistling,
humming, or singing of Beethoven's 5th wafting out of the drifts or motors.
This is my favorite part of the 5th:
Beethoven's 5th - 4th movement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjjVFNA82oc...feature=related
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Thirteen years ago today, Jerry Garcia left this planet.
Here's to you, Jerry - hope you're still truckin'.
"Truckin"The Dead
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Damn! It's unbelieveable what all is posted on utube now.
I've been fooling around there, looking up all sorts of (what I thought were) really obscure tunes, only to find out that they're ALL there. I can't seem to think of anything song ever recorded that's not already up.
Check out this one for anyone with fond memories of 1968, it has it's timeframe written all over it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udc6GyFb0rc
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