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Hey everyone.

We have a dear friend who has been divorced for over a year, is lonely, and looking for ways to make new friends.

Enter dear friend's therapist, masquerading as "not just a therapist, but consider you a friend" wolf who has told him Scientology is not a cult, imagine that, and has invited him to meeting.

Unethical, yes, to say the least.

Good part, dear friend open to book suggestions from me about Scientology telling the other side from ex-Scientologists following telling him my story for the first time about my involvement with the way.

I'm going to go to Amazon next to search for books. Just wondered if anyone has read a great book telling about their "religion" already and could recommend it. Yes, I know about the cult info/recovery books mentioned on this site and have read some of those. While they are all very informative, I'm looking more for information specifically about Scientology.

Anyone have any resources you personally recommend?

THANKS!

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There's gotta be somewhere to report the therapist!

And remember Scientologists don't put much stock by therapy/pscyhology/psychiatry anyway, according to their favorite spokesperson, Mr. Cruise.

There should be a LOT of stuff out there to use.

Good luck.

WG

Yes, waysider. I thought that was strange, too.

Can't help but wonder what kind of "therapist" he is.

Thanks for the link, also.

I found a couple of good books on Amazon--Andrew Morton's looks good because he interviewed ex-Scientologists as part of the research for his book. There is another one with "Blue Sky" in the tile that looks good. One of the reviewers talks about how much real estate the S. own in Hollywood and said that Amazon had to pull this book for a long time due to their threats, so it looks promising.

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Back in 1991, Time published a cover story on Scientology, Scientology: the Cult of Greed. You may read it here. By all the accounts that I have read or heard discussed Scientology makes TWI look like sunday school in the small Methodist church that I grew up in.

The cult was founded by L. Ron Hubbard who had previously acheived some fame as a pulp science fiction writer. Born in Nebraska in 1911, Hubbard served in the Navy during WWII. After the war, he complained to the Veterans Administration about his "seriously affected mind" and "suicidal inclinations."

Years later , church brochures described him falsely as an "extensively decorated" World War II hero who was crippled and blinded in action, twice pronounced dead and miraculously cured through Scientology. Hubbard's "doctorate" from "Sequoia University" was a fake mall-order degree. In a I984 case in which the church sued a Hubbard biographical researcher, a California judge concluded that its founder was "a pathological liar."

Time article

Sound familiar?

In 1950, Hubbard wrote Dianetics: The Science of Mental Health which is the sacred text of Scientology. He introduced his pseudo-psychological technique called "auditing." Hubbard claimed that all human unhappiness had its root cause in mental aberrations, which he called "engrams."

In it [Dianetics] he introduced a crude psychotherapeutic technique he called "auditing." He also created a simplified lie detector (called an "E-meter") that was designed to measure electrical changes In the skin while subjects discussed intimate details of their past. Hubbard argued that unhappiness sprang from mental aberrations (or "engrams") caused by early traumas. Counseling sessions with the E-meter, he claimed, could knock out the engrams, cure blindness and even improve a person's intelligence and appearance.

Hubbard kept adding steps, each more costly, for his followers to climb. In the 1960s the guru decreed that humans are made of clusters of spirits (or "thetans") who were banished to earth some 75 million years ago by a cruel galactic ruler named Xenu. Naturally, those thetans had to be audited.

Time article

I find it interesting that Scientology, like TWI, encourages its adherents to progress through its curriculum while recruiting new members, or "raw meat" as L. Ron Hubbard referred to them.

Today the church invents costly new services with all the zeal of its founder. Scientology doctrine warns that even adherents who are "cleared" of engrams face grave spiritual dangers unless they are pushed to higher and more expensive levels. According to the church's latest price list, recruits -- "raw meat," as Hubbard called them -- take auditing sessions that cost as much as $1,000 an hour, or $12,500 for a 12 1/2-hour "intensive."

Psychiatrists say these sessions can produce a drugged-like, mind-controlled euphoria that keeps customers coming back for more. To pay their fees, newcomers can earn commissions by recruiting new mem- bers, become auditors themselves (Miscavige did so at age 12), or join the church staff and receive free counseling in exchange for what their written contracts describe as a "billion years" of labor. "Make sure that lots of bodies move through the shop," implored Hubbard in one of his bulletins to officials. "Make money. Make more money. Make others produce so as to make money . . . However you get them in or why, just do it."

Time article

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I dont know of any specific books on scientology that I could point your friend to, however I would do some research and find out what Department or who licenses therapists in your state, lodge a formal complaint and follow through whereever it may lead.

The "therapists" behavior is unethical and unprofessional on way too many levels for the licensing board not to at least review his qualifications

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maybe just read dianetics -- that would be enough to scare anyone

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Encyclopedia of World Biography on L. Ron Hubbard

The story of L. Ron Hubbard (1911-1986) is also the story of a movement--the Church of Scientology. Founded by L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology claims millions of devoted members worldwide and, beyond all controversy, it cannot be denied that the movement retains its influence around the world even after Hubbard's death.

Lafayette Ronald Hubbard was born on March 13, 1911, in Tilden, Nebraska. He was the son of Harry Ross, a naval officer, and Dora May (Waterbury de Wolf) Hubbard. He attended George Washington University in the early 1930s and studied at Princeton University in 1945. The years in between undergraduate studies were spent as a free-lance writer. During World War II, he served in the U.S. Navy as a lieutenant though he was not "extensively decorated" as church brochures would later claim. After two unsuccessful marriages, Hubbard married Mary Sue Whipp on October 30, 1952. The couple had four children: Diana Meredith de Wolfe, Mary Suzette Rochelle, L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. (changed name to Ronald DeWolf), and Arthur Ronald Conway.

Pulp Fiction

Hubbard first came to public attention as a writer for the pulp magazines of the 1930s. During the next two decades he turned out a host of westerns, mysteries, sea adventures, and science fiction stories under his own name and several pseudonyms. Xignals reported that at his peak he wrote "over 100,000 words a month." Hubbard's writing, Martin Gardner explained in his In the Name of Science, "is done at lightning speed. (For a while, he used a special electric IBM typewriter with extra keys for common words like 'and,' 'the,' and 'but.' The paper was on a roll to avoid the interruption of changing sheets.)" Hubbard published nearly 600 books, stories, and articles during his lifetime. His fiction volumes sold over 23 million copies, while his nonfiction books sold over 27 million copies.

Birth of a Movement

During the late 1940s, Hubbard began to synthesize concepts from Eastern religions and modern psychology into a new system for mental health. Called Dianetics, after the Greek word for thought, this system promised to cure all mental disorders and psycho-somatic physical ailments. "The hidden source of all psycho-somatic ills and human aberration has been discovered," Hubbard explained in his manuscript Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, "and skills have been developed for their invariable cure." Dianetics sees the human mind as "blocked" by traumatic emotional memories called engrams. By talking over these emotional memories in a process similar to conventional psychoanalysis, a patient can remove the engrams and "clear" his mind. Hubbard believed that a treated patient--called a "clear"--was "to a current normal individual as the current normal is to the severely insane," and claimed that those treated by Dianetics had higher IQs, healed faster, had better eyesight, and never got colds. "The clear is, literally, a superman--an evolutionary step toward a new species," Gardner summarized. A writer for Fantasy Review saw a parallel between Dianetics and Hubbard's outer space adventures, claiming that "like the quasi-superman heroes of most of Hubbard's fiction, initiates were encouraged to believe their mental powers were unlimited."

Bought at first by Hubbard's science fiction fans, the manuscript soon became a national best-seller when it was published by Hermitage House in 1950. Groups were formed to learn and practice Dianetics, especially on college campuses and among the Hollywood set. In 1947, Hubbard actually opened an office in Los Angeles to "[test] the application of Dianetics" among the Hollywood elite. Hubbard left freelance writing in 1950 to promote Dianetics, writing a score of books on the subject in the following decade, delivering some 4,000 lectures, and founding a string of research organizations to spread the word. The Church of Scientology, founded by Hubbard in 1954, became the largest and best-known of these groups.

Essentially the bible of Scientology, Dianetics describes a program of self-improvement and spiritual awakening. As a journalist in People described it, "basically it is the use of a crude lie-detector-type device called an 'E-meter' to diagnose an individual's emotional state, followed by lengthy and expensive Dianetics counseling sessions to deal with the 'problems' the meter detects--and it is the basis of the church's wealth."

Hubbard's ideas continued to be popular throughout the 1960s and 1970s. The church has over 700 established churches, missions, and groups around the world and membership reached its peak at around six million. Dianetics has sold over eight million copies and still sells nearly 400,000 copies a year. A 1991 Time cover story characterized the movement as at best a money-making scam and at worst a terrorist organization. As Cult Awareness Network director Cynthia Kisser has stated, "Scientology is quite likely the most ruthless, the most classically terroristic, the most litigious and the most lucrative cult the country has ever seen."

Bringing New Members to the Fold

To a church that runs on that kind of money, the need for ongoing new members is crucial. Time has listed various ways in which Scientologists would recruit. In many cases, targeted individuals were often led to believe that they were enrolling in a self-help or professional organization, with church affiliations never mentioned initially. There was, for instance, the HealthMed chain of clinics, which Time's Richard Behar said promoted "a grueling and excessive system of saunas, exercise and vitamins designed by Hubbard to purify the body. Experts denounce the regime as quackery and potentially harmful, yet HealthMed solicits unions and public agencies for contracts." Then there was a drug-treatment program, Narconon, "a classic vehicle for drawing addicts into the cult." There was also The Concerned Businessmen's Association of America, another Scientology-linked group that, according to Behar, held "antidrug contests and [awarded] $5,000 grants to schools as a way to recruit students and curry favor with education officials."

Indeed, members of Scientology are reportedly subjected to mental and even physical abuse while paying exorbitant prices for an unending series of texts and programs. The recollections of Edward Lottick attest to the pull and power of Scientology. Seeking spiritual guidance, Lottick's 24-year-old son, Noah, had joined the movement in 1990. Just months later, drained of his money and intimidated to the breaking point, Noah leapt to his death from a 10th-floor window. "The Lotticks [wanted] to sue the church for contributing to their son's death, but the prospect [had] them frightened," commented Behar. "For nearly 40 years, the big business of Scientology has shielded itself exquisitely behind the First Amendment as well as a battery of high-priced criminal lawyers and shady private detectives."

Because of Scientology's legal problems, Hubbard went into seclusion in the early 1980s, reportedly living on his yacht in international waters, in one of his homes in England, and on a ranch in rural California. But Hubbard seemed unable to avoid the legal battles of the time. In 1982, Hubbard's son Ronald DeWolf tried to have his father declared legally dead or incompetent. He further charged that Scientology officials had stolen millions of dollars from his father's estate and described his father as "one of the biggest con men of the century." At the same time, Hubbard's wife, Mary Sue Whipp Hubbard, was sentenced to prison for her part in covering up Scientology break-ins at Federal offices.

"2000 hours, the 24th of January, AD36"

Hubbard's death from a stroke on January 24, 1986, was officially announced by church officials several days later, after Hubbard's body had been cremated and his ashes scattered in the Pacific Ocean. In accordance with Hubbard's will, "no autopsy was performed," according to the Chicago Tribune, and the bulk of his estate--"estimated at tens of millions of dollars," according to Mark Brown of the County Telegram-Tribune--was given to the Church of Scientology.

Hubbard's death was a Scientology event described by the authors of L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman" As they reported, a missive dated January 27, 1986, ordered all Scientology churches and missions worldwide to close their doors for the day. In the Los Angeles area, Commander David Miscavage addressed a packed audience at the Hollywood Palladium. As he told the mourning group, as quoted in L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman": "For many years Ron had said that if given the time, ... he would be able to concentrate on and complete all of his researches into the upper OT level [for Operating Thetan, a Scientology spiritual state].... Approximately two weeks ago, he completed all of his researches he set out to do." The book noted an audience reaction of approval. Then Miscavage continued: "He has now moved on to the next level of OT research. It's a level beyond anything any of us ever imagined." According to Miscavage, Hubbard had achieved a state so pure, the body was no longer needed: "Thus at 2000 hours, the 24th of January, AD36 [signifying the 36th year after the publication of Dianetics], L. Ron Hubbard discarded the body he had used in this lifetime for 74 years, 10 months and 11 days."

On May 12, 2000, Battlefield Earth, a film version of Hubbard's novel of the same title, was released. It starred John Travolta, an actor who was also a scientologist.

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The video I was speaking of is a video of a large Scientologist meeting with Tom Cruise speaking. When the video was leaked, it was taken off the internet quickly by the main Scientologist organization. Sound familiar? How about when anyone posts TWI's music videos? Someone must be keeping TWI's IT department busy.....Wayfer abundant sharing at work.

I saw several links by googling Noah's name. I think the spelling is Lottick. I didn't click on any links because I am at work. If anyone else wants to google and post interesting links, that would be great.

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They try you get you to belive that they can make you better through aduiting that is taliking throught. or throught an e-meter a measuring device, that getting rid of your pain. throught all of your life experiences will make you a better person. But it is all a scam. Thank to the internet many ex-scientologist are leaving and are coming out. showing that its all phony religion.

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Pardon me I am not a great speller. Basics of dianetics is that every person pain that anyone has experienced in stored in the persons mind, and be reliving painful experiences you can get rid of them however L.R hubbard help use these as a form of mind control. The e-meter as used in scientology is use to make you more smarter. But it is also mind control. When I left in 1988. I could not take them anymore. about 3 years later. I read the times magazine story about what happen to noah lottich. I was in the ny org at that time. They are great salemen and con artists. As I read the whole story. I said to myself. My God that could have been me! I knew about Ot levels meaning that once you get rid of the reactive mind of all of a persons past painful experiences. You go to ot meaning a person had pervious past lives. They do not use the term reincarantion. When I read that story about Zenu. I said to myself Man what an idiot I was to get involved with that bunch of insane fanatics. I have not thought about them in years. Until one day I had a family reunion. Well that another story. Then there was a family breakup. Then doing reasearch through the internet. I discovered that this back stabbing cousin was part of this cult TWI. My experience is strange I was a victim of two cults. But just to let everyone know, My cousin others brothers and sisters did not know he was involved in a cult. Well guess what. as a christmas present. I send proof to them. They tried to trick me into his way and tried to rob me after my mother died from cancer. That is justice and I feel great. Pardon me for going on. It feels great that someone got was coming to them!

I have not read the book. I think tom crusie is a good actor. but that about it.

nyunknown, what is your opinion of Tom Morton's Tom Cruise--an Unauthorized Biography?

I'm about half way through, and I'm pinching myself to remember I'm reading about Scientology, not The Way International. So many exact mores and practices; it's unnerving.

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IF the therapist is licensed.

That's an important point. I recently read that anyone can call him/herself a therapist, even a psychotherapist. Only those with the proper education can be licensed, and if that "therapist" isn't licensed, I don't know if there's anything that can be done.

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The auditors or scientologist do not call themselves "therapists." since they are under the guise of a "religion". they are "consulers". For exsample in the catholic church if you want to go to confession and confess you sins you go to a preast. Thats how they get away with it. and any money you give to them is like a "donation".

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