The head of every major religion is born of the seed of the serpent.
Using a metrnome (device to keep musical intervals which looks like an upside grandfather clock pendulum) and saying God with each click will build your believing. My first TC tried to get me to do that. Creepy.
Did anybody ever hear Weirwille say that all of the "seedboys" believe in reincarnation?
WRT the metronome, I don't think that's entirely unique to TWI. Mystical Christains in medieval times practices repetitive prayers and chants. Still creepy.
Any musician who was truely accomplished was "seed suspect" -- ie. -- there was no way they could play that "lick"/"scale"/"phrase", etc. without being "possessed".
I remember docvic playing a piece of music (somebody on guitar) for us one time, and there was a complicated musical lick/phrase in the tune, and once it was done -- he smugly stated that no human could play that well, thus we just heard a devil spirit doing a guitar solo. -->
I don't remember the tune/artist/etc., BUT I do remember thinking at the time -- "anyone who practices could pull off that lick, me included".
quote: Using a metrnome (device to keep musical intervals which looks like an upside grandfather clock pendulum) and saying God with each click will build your believing.
JT -- sounds like a good Hypnotism technique to me! -->
One more myth, then I'll get out of the way for others to have their say! :)-->
"If the windows to your house are dirty, it is spiritually unclean inside".
This was prevelant here in the Northland back in the early 80's. Never heard this from Hdqtrs, but DID hear this from WC in the area at the time, so naturally I assumed it eminated from NK.
quote: Using a metrnome (device to keep musical intervals which looks like an upside grandfather clock pendulum) and saying God with each click will build your believing.
This must have been a later perversion the metrnome as I remember was from the teachings on stayed mind from Bishop K.C. Pillai. To practice staying your mind on God. I can't see how that would build believing that is assuming that you could even do that. I would think that you either believe or you do not believe.
Rock music was bad for you because it matched the beat of your heart this leading you into a trance like state where the debil spurts could operate. Unless it was WAy produced then It didn't have that effect I remember voicing the question to my husband how the same beat could produce such different results .....okay I'm a slow learner.
THe hook shot was first done by VPW
Dungeons and Dragons was created by the Way Corps
Food could be left out unrefrigerated because Standing believers couldn't get food poisoning
The way corps "created" dungeons & dragons? I don't think so templelady! Only God creates. ;-) Just kidding. Our TC threatened to kick a guy out of twig for playing it. Hmmm... so maybe they did "create" it!
VPW did the first hook shot? Yeah, right.
God's ministry.
"We're a research ministry."
The Way Ministry is 60 some-odd years old.
Various miracle health remedies such as Acidophilus. (Bacteria that aids in digestion) Why, this cured everything from yeast infections to headaches.
There is total protection from all evil in "The Household" (later modified to: "The functioning household of the prevailing, renewed mindset of passion for the word of TWI and you better not F**K up or you're dead")
I've been going through my notebooks from my last coupla years in. Plenty of myths in there. Here's one and I kid you not this is a direct quote from our LC's wife:
"If you feel pressure because of the things you do for the ministry you have a lack of believing. It's basically selfishness"
I'm glad she said that because it was one of many verbal stepping stones on my path out of TWI.
I'm of the opinion that VP's entire basketball career was a myth, especially professionally.
The internet has made it very easy to research this kind of stuff. There is a group called the Association for Professional Basketball Research that has records on every pro team that ever existed, going back to 1898. You can e-mail them a name and they will check to see if that person ever played professional basketball.
The name "Wierwille" does not appear on the roster of any professional basketball team that ever existed in the United States.
Now either he played under a different name, which is not entirely out of the realm of possibility, or the entire story is a crock.
Pirate, I remember a whole series of posts on Wierwille's basketball career. Somebody took the time to even interview some of his team mates etc.
I guess he was a fairly decent small college player.
Back in the 30's pro basketball was a little sketchy. Lots of little towns had "professional teams" probably more like "semi pro" probably got paid 5 bucks and a quart of Pabst. Maybe an egg sandwich.....
quote:Back in the 30's pro basketball was a little sketchy. Lots of little towns had "professional teams" probably more like "semi pro" probably got paid 5 bucks and a quart of Pabst. Maybe an egg sandwich.....
True enough, but VP claimed that he played for the Sheboygan Redskins, who were part of the National Basketball League, which later became the NBA. There are extensive records for the NBL, including league rosters for every team from 1937-1949. No Wierwille.
I've never seen anything written about VP's basketball career except what he said himself. Show me some names, dates or even a picture of him holding a basketball and I might change my mind.
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nope... but I wouldn't doubt it!
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Holy Shmoly... what will they think of next!
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Here's one:
Preschoolers can't have an imaginary friend because it is a devil spirit.
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Bramble,
Add Santa, the Easter bunny and Halloween costumes.
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Strength never brings up weakness. Weakness always brings down strength.
(Guess Jesus had this all screwed up)
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Way myths? Gee, do I have a space limit here?
The head of every major religion is born of the seed of the serpent.
Using a metrnome (device to keep musical intervals which looks like an upside grandfather clock pendulum) and saying God with each click will build your believing. My first TC tried to get me to do that. Creepy.
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Did anybody ever hear Weirwille say that all of the "seedboys" believe in reincarnation?
WRT the metronome, I don't think that's entirely unique to TWI. Mystical Christains in medieval times practices repetitive prayers and chants. Still creepy.
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washingtonweather
Back in the early 80's...Break Dancing was of the devil because it came from Ishmeal...not Issac
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dmiller
Never heard that one before!!!
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Haloween costumes??? We had some good ones at the HQ party in 1979.
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Another one is -------------
Any musician who was truely accomplished was "seed suspect" -- ie. -- there was no way they could play that "lick"/"scale"/"phrase", etc. without being "possessed".
I remember docvic playing a piece of music (somebody on guitar) for us one time, and there was a complicated musical lick/phrase in the tune, and once it was done -- he smugly stated that no human could play that well, thus we just heard a devil spirit doing a guitar solo.
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I don't remember the tune/artist/etc., BUT I do remember thinking at the time -- "anyone who practices could pull off that lick, me included".
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JT -- sounds like a good Hypnotism technique to me!
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Yes -- creepy.
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One more myth, then I'll get out of the way for others to have their say!
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"If the windows to your house are dirty, it is spiritually unclean inside".
This was prevelant here in the Northland back in the early 80's. Never heard this from Hdqtrs, but DID hear this from WC in the area at the time, so naturally I assumed it eminated from NK.
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D miller Did he by chance wash windows for a living?
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This must have been a later perversion the metrnome as I remember was from the teachings on stayed mind from Bishop K.C. Pillai. To practice staying your mind on God. I can't see how that would build believing that is assuming that you could even do that. I would think that you either believe or you do not believe.
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Rock music was bad for you because it matched the beat of your heart this leading you into a trance like state where the debil spurts could operate. Unless it was WAy produced then It didn't have that effect I remember voicing the question to my husband how the same beat could produce such different results .....okay I'm a slow learner.
THe hook shot was first done by VPW
Dungeons and Dragons was created by the Way Corps
Food could be left out unrefrigerated because Standing believers couldn't get food poisoning
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johniam
Yeah, couple of corps people demonstrated with a metronome once. They did this...
whack
I love God
whack
God loves me
whack
I love myself.
It kinda reminded me of Jack Lalaine.
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No Way
i've been "tricked by the devil" because i work 2 nights that there are offshoot fellowships.
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The way corps "created" dungeons & dragons? I don't think so templelady! Only God creates. ;-) Just kidding. Our TC threatened to kick a guy out of twig for playing it. Hmmm... so maybe they did "create" it!
VPW did the first hook shot? Yeah, right.
God's ministry.
"We're a research ministry."
The Way Ministry is 60 some-odd years old.
Various miracle health remedies such as Acidophilus. (Bacteria that aids in digestion) Why, this cured everything from yeast infections to headaches.
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jell remler
Just when I thought I heard it all. A metronome?
I Love "Way Myths"
TWI is everything they claim not to be.
Biggest myth of all? Well maybe not but:
There is total protection from all evil in "The Household" (later modified to: "The functioning household of the prevailing, renewed mindset of passion for the word of TWI and you better not F**K up or you're dead")
I've been going through my notebooks from my last coupla years in. Plenty of myths in there. Here's one and I kid you not this is a direct quote from our LC's wife:
"If you feel pressure because of the things you do for the ministry you have a lack of believing. It's basically selfishness"
I'm glad she said that because it was one of many verbal stepping stones on my path out of TWI.
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Yeah, right.
I'm of the opinion that VP's entire basketball career was a myth, especially professionally.
The internet has made it very easy to research this kind of stuff. There is a group called the Association for Professional Basketball Research that has records on every pro team that ever existed, going back to 1898. You can e-mail them a name and they will check to see if that person ever played professional basketball.
The name "Wierwille" does not appear on the roster of any professional basketball team that ever existed in the United States.
Now either he played under a different name, which is not entirely out of the realm of possibility, or the entire story is a crock.
I know what I think.
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Pirate, I remember a whole series of posts on Wierwille's basketball career. Somebody took the time to even interview some of his team mates etc.
I guess he was a fairly decent small college player.
Back in the 30's pro basketball was a little sketchy. Lots of little towns had "professional teams" probably more like "semi pro" probably got paid 5 bucks and a quart of Pabst. Maybe an egg sandwich.....
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That's cause those records were dematerialized by devil spirits.
What was TWI's greatest practical myth?
"The Proportionate Giving Principle"
"God will open the windows of heaven the moment you lay your tithe at "the apostle's feet."
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True enough, but VP claimed that he played for the Sheboygan Redskins, who were part of the National Basketball League, which later became the NBA. There are extensive records for the NBL, including league rosters for every team from 1937-1949. No Wierwille.
I've never seen anything written about VP's basketball career except what he said himself. Show me some names, dates or even a picture of him holding a basketball and I might change my mind.
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