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Ah yes. another letter that needs to be run through "True-gle" translate. Fellow spotters I will give this my best efforts LOL. Dear (insert euphamism for those who can take brainwashing and antics and still keep sending in money decade after decade), Our hearts are filled with complete horse pucky, as usual, reflecting upon the many bodies we have had to climb over to reach this miserable position where we sit and look down upon you across our nose with pious platitudes and lies. A key element to this is applying another layer of whitewash onto the dead prophet and his snow pumps. So now, pause for a moment of silence, while we humanize the lecher by bringing in his old poor widow in concept, and tie in her life and dedication to the ole Wierwille Homiletic Farm. Don't worry, we will wait for effect as you grab a tissue. Also, while we are applying another layer of whitewash to the fountain of living Drambuie, this would be a great time to insert just a little passive-aggressive teaching to the flock too. I mean who can pass up a passive-aggressive moment as a Board of Director? Ole VP, his wife Dorothea, and the seven decades of faithful followers all were known for their "vigorous and diligent" efforts. You know, kind of unlike you current field Corpse who we just b1tch3d out for not running enough classes, and staff we micro-control down to bathroom breaks and force to attend the STS, you guys really need to be more vigorous and diligent. That's why everyone is leaving and no classes are running and we don't need an Advanced Class every year any more. I know, I know, if you get on that evil internet with all of its corrupt communications (I mean except for our new sites with the slave-polished HQ pictures, and the regurgitated magazine articles), then you will hear all sorts of stories about how the only thing VP was really known for being "vigorous and diligent" about had nothing to do with his Biblical research which everyone else did for him, it had more to do with pursuing a mellow Drambuie buzz and an evening with a young lady not his wife as a sexual partner, varied levels of willingness notwithstanding. Think a white fundamentalist Cosby. But no, that vigor and diligence must never be known, it must be whitewashed. And you are making a difference. Men, women, yes even children are understanding God's will because they are understanding God's Word. You know, like Domino's Pizza corporate sponsorship, we always have to bring it home to the old trademarked material "The Word of God is the Will of God" TM. (NOTE: Catchy little brainless jingle. If you think about it what does this actually mean? I can read an ancient tome full of history, poems, and letters, and somehow get to know the intent of our Creator. OK. I'm kind of still waiting for the earth-shattering revelation in this little bit of knowledge. You know, the one that's going to change the face of Christianity? Still not seeing it. This is kind of the same thing they told me in Sunday school in a denomination when I was 8, no? Read the Bible, get to know God? But somehow, turn it into some kind of jingly corporate slogan type of statement, and it becomes a language of control END NOTE) Keep those trademarked mantras on your lips wherever you go, because only those will allow you to distance yourself from the darkness of our past, which we keep whitewashing over, lying about, hiding, and living off the money from. What a privilege and honor it is to live with a Board of Director credit card not subject to those measly 500 dollar limits on them, and to be able to have servants for every whim in a day where that's frowned upon. Also, the power. Yes we like it. Kisses, Board of Sycophants Rozilla, Chocolicious, DeLoser, and newly promoted sychophant Bilbo the Moral Hobbit

I've been out of the discussion for a while, but I've a few things to say now. First of all, reducing EVERYTHING to dualities and polarizing them is bad. There are many issues where the extremes are wrong and the truth is in the middle. We've touched on a few here. Concerning the twi approach to Psychology and Psychiatry, there's at least 2 problems with it. One, inadequate preparation for even basic first aid. They had a person have some sort of episode, and the response was neither "give medical attention" nor "get him to the hospital and let THEM give medical attention." This was never corrected with a medical contingency for when hundreds of people lived on grounds. The second thing was that all the actual "psychology" the did was neither TRAINED nor COMPREHENSIVE. It was the result of READING A SINGLE BOOK- Jay Adams' "Competent to Counsel", and that was the entirety of their preparation. Now, his "nouthetic" technique, IMHO, would work well for certain people, less well for certain other people, and horrendously for everyone with an actual physical problem. Counseling someone for a chemical imbalance is like counseling someone for a broken arm. Now, if they're given the right chemicals, THEN some counseling might be of great use. However, treating them without the medication is as effective as treating ANYTHING and leaving out the necessary medication. twi's method is lazy, ineffective, and criminally negligent. It is true that the other extreme is equally bad- just dumping chemicals on people and sending them off. Many people seem to have had that as well- given medication and no counseling alongside the medication. That can be as bad as no medication alongside the counseling. However, the answer is neither "stop giving medication" nor "stop counseling", but use both in harmony. Scientology denigrates Psychiatry even more than twi does-because more Psychiatry means more people who can't be fleeced by their groups- and Scientology masks itself as a psychological treatment program among other things. According to Scientology, it would be a benefit to get ALL the psychiatric patients OFF drugs. I've known some nice Christians who WERE on psychiatric medications, and you'd never guess it to know from them. I know what they'd say about dropping the medication. True-if they were healed, they wouldn't need the drugs any more. So, don't like them taking drugs? Heal them. Don't expect Scientologists to do it, either. They don't believe in faith healing. As to solving everyone's problems with enough Bible verses, I'd have to disagree. James 2:15-16 (NASB) 15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, [o]be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? I think the answer is plain-that sometimes actions are called for. (If you're unsure, James 2 goes into that pretty clearly.)

Robson......how dumb do you think we are??? You sir, are a moron, imo. "How CCHR Was Established: CCHR was co-founded as an independent mental health watchdog in 1969 by the Church of Scientology and Professor of Psychiatry Emeritus Dr. Thomas Szasz at a time when patients were being warehoused in institutions, abused, stripped of their constitutional, civil and human rights, and left without recourse." So, use one destructive fascist cult to validate the beliefs of another??? The "Church" of Scientology doesn't "have any actual facts" about ANYTHING with any hint of science or evidence to back up L. Ron Hubbard's personal hatred for ALL things "psychiatric" or "psychological". Of all the "beaucoup hits" you pick the most abjectly insane one of them all. Zero clinical evidence. No clinical trial results. No clinical test results. No peer review. Just Scientologist propaganda. They're just as "lazy" as YOU as far as thinking "actual facts" matter in medical science, since their entire field was "born in a seance" according to your moggie dictor paul. That is why the evidence overwhelmingly points to you being an uneducated, misguided, and biased moron to post something from CCHR as presenting anything of any veracity containing "actual facts" regarding fields they blatantly disdain, discount, disrespect, despise, and literally HATE. Dude! What drugs are YOU on??

HELP ME, HELP ME.........pay my bills.

OMG.................Sounds like the same blunders when wierwille used intense lighting while filming pfal.

VPW: I'm not a real doctor, but I can play one on the motorcoach later if you're not busy honey Weinstein not a new story....

Yeah, imagine that.............in 1960, no less.

"Dr. Wierwille so very much desired to see the people who had left us come back, though I don't remember one who actually did return to the ministry." [p. 257]

Good catch, Don’t Worry - …and seeing that CCHR was established by the church of Scientology really does put those articles in a different light ! I’ve read a few very revealing books on Scientology…most notably Inside Scientology and Going Clear that make quite a few references to Scientology’s campaign against psychiatry / psychology. See also Wikipedia’s article Scientology and Psychiatry In Going Clear, on pages 180 – 182, author Lawrence Wright gets into how Scientologist founder Hubbard became fascinated with mind control – so much so, that some former Scientologists refer to a pamphlet that Hubbard supposedly wrote called “Brain-Washing: A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics” – as a codex for Hubbard’s grand scheme - and that “there is an eerie mirroring of the techniques described in the pamphlet and some Scientology practices, especially those put into effect in the RFP.” The RFP is Scientology’s Rehabilitation Project Force “Coincidentally” there’s been a few discussions here on Grease Spot that get into the similarities of the methods of Scientology and The Way International… “Great” cult-leaders think alike, I guess…wierwille liked to disparage psychiatry and such related fields… I remember on more than one occasion he’d talk along the lines of having a sound mind according to “the word” versus how the world defines sanity…he’d brag about how he wouldn’t be able to pass a psychological evaluation test because the world’s standards for a sound mind differ from that of “The Word's" standards.... Yeah - i gotta admit I would agree with him knowing what I know now – I’ll bet he never could have passed a psychological evaluation test – with all the issues he had.

Remodeling at the Farm.............. The wierwille home was remodeled the summer of 1960 "The remodeling was quite radical, as parts of the house were at least one hundred years old. We jacked up the entire house and dug a complete basement. We then added the southeast corner on the first floor to become Dr. Wierwille's office with a deck on the second floor. We added ten feet on the north end of the house, two stories with a full basement. This made the size of the house adequate for offices as well as living quarters for our family, which temporarily included Uncle Harry." [p. 251] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ page 252.......... "At the next meeting of the Board of Directors, on February 21, 1960, a few members were absent. And again at the annual meeting in June these same people did not return or care to be members of the board any longer. They did not agree with the decisions of the Board of Trustees concerning having the headquarters on the farm." Board of Directors = limb & branch leadership In just two years, the field leadership were abandoning wierwille Big schism on decision to move headquarters to the farm and not Troy area Isn't it interesting......... that CFF is located in Troy, OH and two of the adult wierwille children are involved there?

I’m not saying you’ve made a rush to judgment – but the opening paragraph of the article in your link ( school shootings ) makes me think there’s a lot more to it: “Fact: At least 36 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs” It says those acts committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. An operative word in their fact being “withdrawing” (which was even italicized in the article) – suggests to me that perhaps in some cases the prescribed drugs were working until the individual stopped taking them or in some way deviated from the physicians directives. I think a lot more info and details are needed – which even this article suggests at the end by giving a link to a related article: (aurora colorado tragedy ) The first fact at the top of this article says: “Fact: Despite 27 international drug regulatory warnings on psychiatric drugs citing effects of mania, hostility, violence and even homicidal ideation, and dozens of high profile shootings/killings tied to psychiatric drug use, there has yet to be a federal investigation on the link between psychiatric drugs and acts of senseless violence.” I’m not a medical professional or anything that qualifies me to address this topic – but my curious mind wants to look at the bigger picture – like maybe what are the contributing factors to acts of violence committed by individuals with known mental health issues - and who knows... if warranted, sometimes federal investigations do broaden the scope of their systematic examination. Perhaps it would clarify issues related to the side effects of certain drugs but also issues related to a patient who stops taking the prescription or not following directives or a doctor's regimen, what are the current treatments for specific mental health issues and how effective are they... and I'm sure there's a lot of other things to consider - - because people are complex as well as each being a unique individual. not only that...but if the pace of advancements / improvements in the medical world are anything like in other technical fields - things are changing all the time.

It was either Don or George Jess that taught one Sunday evening in Kenyon Hall. 2/3 of the 6th and 8th Corps fell fast asleep. G Wrenn punished us all in the ensuing days by making us get up at 4:30 to exercise and then work our asses off and then run run run. Great way to deal with people who fell asleep - wear them out so they're even more tired.! Your comment about Don's teaching being boring brought that back to me. Help!!! I've been TRIGGERED!!! It seems so bizarre to me now that I was ever in such a thing.

"whoa whoa whoa back up a minute" - was there actually a Way Student Aid Foundation ? true dat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gotcha ...so it was.... The Hick versus the sticks like a stupid triple six with his Jedi-mind-tricks same old way-politics just a wierwille remix yo - turds you cannot fix !!!!