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Thanks Bolshevik, I've been doing more thinking on this. According to John 16, Jesus is the "source of or behind" everything that the spirit of truth would say and do. This was the same deal with Jesus and his Father. Jesus, after he received the spirit of God when he was baptized, always said that everything he did and said was what his Father showed or told him to do and say. The point to this is that the focus is on the "source" from whom all knowledge and power originates. Now compare this to what the article found on twi's website (as shown on the first page of this thread) says. "The great principle (GP) we see from these verses is that God, Who is Spirit, teaches His creation in you, which is now your spirit. Your spirit teaches your mind. Then your spiritual power becomes manifested in the senses realm AS YOU act or AS YOU speak out." Where is the focus placed? If I edited the above as follows - "The great principle we see from these verses is that God, Who is Spirit, teaches His creation in you, which is now your spirit. Your spirit teaches your mind. Then your (His) spiritual power becomes manifested in the senses realm AS YOU act or AS YOU speak out as you listen to and obey God... - you'd get is "God, Who is Spirit, teaches His creation in you. Then His spiritual power becomes manifested in the senses realm as you listen to and obey Him." We're still in there, but God, not us, is the focus. It's like what's been posted time and time again - twi wants the focus to be on us because they know our focus is on them as our teachers of the accuracy of God's Word, all of which replaces the absent Christ. New question is if it's significant whether the spirit of truth is an "it" as in twi's GP or an "he" as in the Bible.

your mind just follows the bouncing ball as we were trained in the PFAL class here we see new students following along in the class The Bible says this wierwille says this about that The Bible says this wierwille says this about that

No of course ALL the problems aren’t due to VPW. But the fact you can’t be honest about the ones that do exist indicate an unnatural attachment to the guys image. And the blindness to very clear commandments that Jesus was supposed to be sent to fulfill the law is astounding. I am starting to look at what is your benefit to “playing dumb” in certain areas. Like for instance thanking me for information that is 1 click away w/r to who the BOD are. While at the same time selling yourself as some great liaison to HQ. Similarly the mark and avoid of the RnR folks. You steer very widely clear of knowing anything about that, but it was the main issue before the current group’s ascent. To me the logical explanation is you have some form of unstated incentive to being that dumb.

In the TV series, the sheriff and the town drunk were 2 different people.

No time to listen right now (going to work!) but wouldn't this be better in Open or Doctrinal?

122. Even the.name of the class is bait and switch. How much of the class is focused on how to achieve an abundant life and how much of the class is focused on Way doctrine?