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Wierwille taught that the first thing Eve did that was wrong was to "respond by considering." Proverbs 18:13 says, "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." How about that, in the context of "keeping things positive?" Love, Steve

It astounds me that anyone truely believes BP doesn't want this fixed YESTERDAY. Bp wants it fixed more than anyone on the planet right now. This is a "gusher" of monumental proportions. Normal oil wells don't do this. That's why we have PUMPS. Even 100 years ago a "gusher" only lasted a short time. 60 days? Unheard of! The talking heads on TV only make it worse, 30 second sound bites of bad facts misconstrued with the spin of the moment. I'm loving solutions from the peanut gallery. Everyone thinks it's simple. If it was it would be stopped already. I asked a guy I know in the biz about exploding det cord down in the well pipe. He said the explosive back pressure could blow holes up all over the gulf... then what? We all think we're experts, we all think BP is evil, we all think they're all about the money. Did they make mistakes? duh! Did they cut corners? Looks like it, not sure yet. Are they gonna fix it? Sooner or later. Will it cost them? OH YEAH.... Now here's my question for all the BP haters... IF YOU KILL BP... Where will the $ come from to fix everything?

Can`t say what you really think...oops can`t really even think what you want because that is negative. Can`t be honest about what you have seen, what you feel, warn another of impending danger....because it is all...negative. Can`t tell another what is really going on in your life, cannot be honest.. Can`t handle what is being insisted on from you...every fiber of your being screaming how wrong what they are telling you God requires ?? Run retemories through your head to silence that inner voice .. to ignore your better judgement ...to numb yourself while you brokenly comply with orders..... How many people (me for one) were warned away from greasespot or way dale even AFTER they left twi because they couldn`t handle the *negatives* :( It took a long time to over come this particular conditioning.

Amen! Great post. My underlying theme, which I think communicates, is we need to stop and "process" the negatives to truly rise above them. Acknowledge them for what they are, talk about them, express them in other mediums of communication if need be and then move on with the positives that cause us to truly enjoy life.

I liked Michiu Kaku's (theoretical Physicist from SUNY)take on this. Last week he was asked about it and he said not a good idea unless you want radioactive tarballs in your swimming pool. And on the lighter side<br> <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjpuCrZEvSI&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjpuCrZEvSI&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjpuCrZEvSI&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Damn-you made me choke on that one!

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I have to admit - - - I'm confused. Did docvic actually have a "mantle" to pass? And if he did, and LCM "got it" (back in 1982 or thereabouts), wasn't it more appropriately called (here at GSC) "The Skunk Pelt"? Is this what you now have teachmevp?? I wouldn't be boasting about that, if I were you, eh? My advice?? Throw the skunk pelt into the trash, and bathe (daily), in tomato juice. Do this for 2 weeks (7 X 2 = 14/ 1 + 4 = 5 7 = Spiritual perfection; 2 = "it's established"; and 5 = Grace. You should get rid of the "stink" in the time alloted. Good luck. (Woops - - can a guy wish you "luck"?)

I can't speak for Pawtucket. As for me, though, I NEVER again want to feel like it's not for me to know what or why I'm playing. And I definitely don't want to feel like what I'm doing is part of some "bigger picture". That's all part of the crap that TWI fed me in order to convince me to surrender my individuality.

Well the riser is still connected at site. when the Rig sank, it folded over, So you have aboout 5,000 feet of pipe pretzeled onto the ocean floor, So you can't just dump-rocks-down-the-hole. It has been suggested by some that detonating a nuclear device if small size (less than 5 kilotonnes) would serve to seal the leak. As a physicist, I find the idea amusing. I sure as hell wouldn't try it. The floor iof the gulf there is mostly silt and salt deposits and it is very brittle. A huge shock, such as detonating a nuclear weapon, could just crack the substrate and open up an even larger leak. A one kilotonne device would make a steam bubble of just under a mile in diameter, Along it's edges it could fuse rock. But the shock wave of the explosion can also shatterthe seafloor which is mostly salt deposits at the drill site. You would kill all sea-life within about a 5 mile circle. But water is a good thermal neutron attinuator and radiation wouldn't actually be much of a problem. It would be like killing a Rat with a 250mm Cannon,... overkill and more destructive than the attempt is worth.

Robert , thanks for the correction. Remember that the Gospels were written later from about 75 AD on, after the Epistles, then Acts(which may have been mergered with Gospel of Luke).

Where is their end documented? Genesis 6:4 says that the Nephilim were on earth both before "and after" the flood. If the Nephilim mated with "daughters of men" before the flood, then it's reasonable to assume that they did so after the flood, as well. (Incidentally, the offspring that the Nephilim produced together with the daughters of men, grew to become "heroes" and "men of reknown". So I don't know if "worthless" is a proper characterization.) Continuing on, Numbers 13:33 tells us that the Nephilim were reported in "the land from the Desert of Zin as far as Rehob, toward Lebo Hamath." And "up through the Negev" and "Hebron", where "Ahiman, Sheshai and Talmai...lived." (Numbers 13:31) Their complete destruction is never ascertained. "No Anakites were left in Israelite territory; only in Gaza, Gath and Ashdod did any survive." (Joshua 11:22) So, as far as I can tell they are probably still around.

I am pretty sure that they know it can be done that way as it has been done before. Even though the ocean IS being destroyed I really dont know if blowing off a nuclear weapon wouldn't be even worse. It's hard for a layman like me to know all of the implications of what exactly that would do to the Gulf and the ecosystem. Hopefully (because I have nothing else at this point)some genius somewhere has weighed all the variables of that possibility honestly without politics or corporations being involved and determined that its too destructive to implement. I Hope thats the case anyway. If it comes out at some point in the future that exploding the well could've been done safely and wasn't, the backlash for the administration could be near as bad as the disaster

interestingly, when Paul wrote that to Timothy, it was refering to the Tanak(Torah/Pentetuch, Nephilim/prophets and history, and Ketubim/Psalms/Proverbs/Song of Solomon/Ecclesiates), not the New Testament gospels, Acts, epistles, or Revelation which he, Peter, James, and John saw only as commentary and not equal to the Old Testament.