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It's a good question, Krys. What do we know about BG Leonard, apart from him being one of VPW's earliest victims? Or JE Stiles, for that matter? Another early victim.

I think, WW, that Krys is really interested in BG Leonard's work. Do you have info on that? (We've re-hashed VPW's plagiarism far too much here.)

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Freaky, Pete. :blink:

OldSkool, excie "seed" ya!!!

In rez ... tired after some long event prep and putting it on and clean-up and all the usual busy-work. Never any spare time whether there was an event or not. So it's the Super Bowl. As a reward, we are permitted to watch the SB if we wish. A TV is set up in Founders Hall. Some in rez Corps went. Many others took time to rest, sleep, catch up with laundry, spent time with spouses, whatever. Some of us had no interest (I still don't know what the SB is, I'm not American). Next day ... those who didn't watch the SB got a serious bollocking. Reason: LCM said we could have learned something about him, if we'd watched it, being as he'd been such a mighty player in his younger days. (Not egotistical, huh!)

I took 2 hours 24 mins to get there. OldSkool, go sponsor me. Or get beating the feet yourself. :B)

Been runninghalf marathons (well one anyway) - have a look at Beating the Feet in Open. There's a link to follow.

Thantks, bfh! Such a lovely run yesterday ... no, maybe I don't want that shrink after all. Heh, I wondered if I should have posted this in the Sports section, not Open.

Hey, Teresa! Wondered what had happened to you! Good to see you.

Oh? When? First I've heard of this. But then, that's no surprise.

What a cool idea, Kit! I ran around occasionally feeling thankful for the luxury of being able to run for pleasure - not to have to run to avoid a sniper's bullet, a mortar, or to get to the front of a food queue. Sometimes I think of the Author and Finisher of faith running alongside or just in front of me, as a pacemaker. I achieved a time of 2:24:06 which I'm well pleased with, for saying I didn't do much training and my knee was feeling a bit gippy for the couple of weeks beforehand. Pleased to say that my knee didn't hurt excessively (I did treat it gently) - in fact nowhere hurts. It was the most beautiful day - bright, sunny, warm without being too hot, gentle breeze. Big crowd to cheer runners on. I loped along at a comfortable pace feeling really good and it was a real pleasure to be alive.

Too late to train now, event is tomorrow!!! Yes, the buildings are in Bath. The start/finish is in Great Pulteney Street with beautiful stately buildings in rows and usually on 5-6 levels. These buildings were built late 1700s from the local Bath stone which was highly valued and used for exquisite buildings nationally. The best stone is light greyish but has a golden or honey color to it. Much of the city center of Bath was built/rebuilt at that time and there are some very fine crescents - long gracefully curved rows of terraced houses on 5-6 levels and worth $millions. I'll let you know how I get on! I'm guessing 2:15 best and very unlikely, 2:35 worst (worst ever) - depends on how my right knee feels about life tomorrow. Weather forecast is good. Dry, sunny, pleasant temp without being too hot or too cold. Light breeze. Just exactly what I prayed for.

RSV: "The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God; happy is he who has no reason to judge himself for what he approves." That includes eating and drinking in a way that doesn't cause offence to others - over-indulging in wine, not drinking any wine at all; eating whatever is put in front of you, not eating any meat ... The context is self-control - not self-indulgence. And definitely not using grace as a license to sin. Think before doing whatever you do. Is it a Godly way to live? Is it the best you can do, right now? If yes, don't condemn yourself if you don't do it right or perfectly. Is it going to cause confusion or difficulties for someone else, if you can't explain to them? If yes, don't do it then. Live care-fully.

Thanks bfh and Waysider but more like this: 2011 Half Marathon Some video footage at the bottom (if the link works) and I came in when the clock shows 2:28:32, hands waving in the air, glad it was all over. 2:28 wasn't my time for the race, just the time when I filtered through the finish line. I think my actual time was about 2:11 or 2:14, all timed by electronic chip tied to the shoelaces, activated on crossing the line at Start, 10km and Finish.. You might be able to pick out the white tabard, green writing, for the Genesis Trust that I raise sponsorship for each year.

Ah, come on you miserable lot, won't any of you even send a cheery wave :wave:and wish me well ? Alternatively, send me the name of a good psychiatrist so that I won't feel tempted to do this again?

Maybe he should come to the Cafe and carry out some exhumation.

Not sure it's James Trimm. Sounds more like Michael somebody-or-other who thinks he's some great Jewish guru and dresses in funny clothes. TWI makes a habit of suing people for use of "The Way" and other such marks or those including the phrase "The Way" in its name. Actually if such organizations knew what The Way was like, they'd probably want to drop the name pretty quick to avoid being associated with such a cult.

Don't think they were ever mentioned while I was there. I did ask at twig before I got majorly involved, but can't remember the response - but it was clearly some sort of fudged answer.

I don't know that the Research Department was ever anything but a sham. It sounded good, to say they had a research dept. As if they were some genuine organization. And the gullible (myself included) thought (at least at first) that real stuff was being discovered - put out, say, in the GMIR articles (they were always the most interesting part of the Way mag). I waited for some sort of position statement on the Dead Sea Scrolls...what new light if any did they shed on what was already known? Alas, that might have taken some scholarship... But VPW was dead and no-one else had the guts to lie quite like he did, or invent any explanation, or steal others' research. ... We're all still waiting for the position statement.

I can't face reading ANY of their materials. Can't get past the first paragraph. The whole bloody set-up was insane. Wtih Geer in the vicinity, there was never room for anyone else. His ego filled any room he was in. You US folk need to be really glad you didn't get to spend time up in Gartmore with him!!! Oh sorry, that's a comment that really belongs on a different thread.

Okay, guys, it's that time of year again and I am again running a Half Marathon to raise funds for a Christian charity in my city. I need motivating and it'd be lovely if some of you would please sponsor me in this effort. Unlikely to be a PB this time as my knee hurts a bit and because of that, my training has been less than might be desired. Going to finish, though, within the required 3 hour period. I expect about 2h30m or maybe a bit less. I hated running when in rez (well to be honest, at 6AM I wasn't very keen on much at all) but enjoy it reasonably well now that I'm not made to do it. And if it is a nice spring morning, it should be lovely. There are usually about 15,000 runners, some in fancy dress. The race is always won by beautiful Kenyan males who run so gracefully and effortlessly. They take just over an hour. Embarrassing really when I take more than twice that, and every step is a challenge. Please sponsor me if you can - and even if you can't have a look at my Giving page and leave me a message - I think that's possible. Thanks, Twinx Giving page

Blasphemy, could be. Who is putting VPW up there with the apostles? I don't think VPW ever actually called himself that (others may know differently) - he styled himself "The Teacher." Although he also did say an apostle is one who brings new light AND he said he was going to teach the word like it hadn't been known since the first century (concerning which, he had no interest in ancient texts which are considered to date back to that very period).

Hardly fits with being "gentle" with one another, and "not putting a stone of stumbling" in another's path, does it? Ashamed to say, I learned to swear through TWI. Those words that rhyme with "duck" and the like ... in not uncommon currency in twig, but when I got in rez and heard big bad Martindale ranting on, using words in his sermon that would make most people flinch ... And the CFS class was gross, too, with its many descriptions of intimate body parts. JJ, your WD leader was way out of line in saying such a thing. It's not a joke. It's an outright lie. And you know where lies come from, right? So you know which "Way" he was leading the team. Ugh.

Very much on the Word, Sky. Consider it "redeeming the time." My new church has loose seats that can be completely removed. For the church's dedication, these were set out in rows. Some were not exactly straight - neat, but not "perfectly strung." Ping! Immediate leap into Way-mindset! And I took a deep breath, went about my own task, straightened any chairs I'd knocked out of the way ... and that was it. Next time I saw the chairs (next day), there were bums on seats and the lines were anything but straight. And everybody was VERY HAPPY and DELIGHTED to be a part of the dedication. And the bishop never said a word about the chairs not being perfectly straight. Ha ha ha ha ha.