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That's one of the answers my brother knows.

Shuffle a few words and what do you get? My glasses lost (and I had to drink too much.)

The sense of urgency. Yes, we had plenty of that in fellowlaborers. Everything was always oh, so ever urgent. Like the time we had to stay up all night, cutting and laying sod for a new fire circle because the MOG was going to throw a night-owl and it had to be ready in case some great revelation was about to be dispensed from on high around the smoking embers. It just had to be done right away. Never mind that we all worked full time secular jobs through the daytime. Or the time we were called to a special work assignment to destroy all the mimeograph plates for the state newsletter. Wouldn't want the bad guys to ever find out where we lived or something. Or the time we had to wade in knee deep, leach infested creek waters to remove any stones that might make the creek appear disorganized. Then, there was the time we were called out to limb headquarters at 3 am and told the entire future of Word Over the World was in serious jeopardy because we, being so geographically close to Int. HQ, had "blown it". Of course, we weren't told how. We were only told the program was being canceled immediately. Three hours later we were given a second chance but had to resolve ourselves to do exactly as we were told. I could go on and on with more silly examples of how we we were always on red alert in case somebody mistakenly put their socks in the same drawer with their underpants. God is not a God of confusion, dontcha know?

R.I.P., Eddie

I wondered the same thing. Who is Clara T.? Apparently, her editing skills are sub-par, whoever she is. You know? 'cause So_crates has to come to her aid.

Between my brother and I, we know the answer to every question ever posed. Please be kind and refrain from asking me the ones that he knows.

I remember those afternoon twigs. It was just another way of making sure everyone was "on the same page". And, if you got caught "looking ahead in the lesson plan", the teacher's adjunct was quick to give you a swift (figurative) slap with the ruler.

This is not weird. For some Native American peoples, this is standard operating procedure. (Forgiveness and gratitude)

If he really thought this concept was new to the philosophical community, he was quite deluded. Personally, I think he was quite aware this "new insight" was really revamped paraphrasing of other sources. (That's a polite way of saying he ripped it off.)

The Book of the Law (1904) Also known as Liber AL vel Legis * Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. o I:40 This famous statement derives from several historic precedents, including that of François Rabelais in describing the rule of his Abbey of Thélème in Gargantua and Pantagruel: Fait ce que vouldras (Do what thou wilt), which was later used by the Hellfire Club established by Sir Francis Dashwood. It is also similar to the pagan proverb: An ye harm none, do what thou wilt; but the oldest known statement of a similar idea is by St. Augustine of Hippo: Love, and do what thou wilt. Source

I always looked forward to your posts and enjoyed the brief conversations we had in the chat room. Oh, and I found it ironically amusing when I discovered that TWI sent you out WOW to a city that I had just left, a city that was already a hot bed of Way activity. Well, maybe my sense of humor is twisted.

Well, actually, he never said your intentions had to be "good". He only said they ought to lead to whatever it was that would please you. -----Screw the other guy, as long as I get whatever I want. "Do what you like, as long as you like what you do"----VP Wierwille

Somewhere, someone's calling. 6 o'clock on a Thursday evening I saw the smoke rise orange in the sky I watched the fire climb over the hilltops. Canyon's burning Canyon's burning down. Hear the trees crying All the years dying Fire has turned the hills into ashes And as the sun ran down from the sky The canyon burned. Canyon's burning Canyon's burning down. Ashes, long lying Memories, slow dying Fire has gone and the rain has fallen The winter has passed and the springtime is near But under the wind someone is calling. Canyon's burning Canyon's burning down. The Great Canyon Fire In General

An amazing performance of Gershwin's

Now, is a jam!!

"seeing the light" Do migraine auras count? :unsure:

Would you like a jelly baby for the road?

It's got my vote, too.

Of course he did, John. If he didn't, you and I were following the ministry of a man who "didn't know what he was doing". Is that how you like to think of yourself? As someone who followed the guidance of someone who didn't know what he was doing? Do you really think that silly "answer a question with a question" nonsense will fly here?

Wierwille KNEW what he was doing. Was he forgiven?

That, my friend, is where you are seriously in error.

John, it's well known, among those who spent time working closely with Wierwille, that he was a very, very heavy drinker and was frequently in a state of inebriation. He was also a chain smoker. Many people who post, or have posted here, can easily substantiate that fact. In addition, if you were ever involved with preparing for a visit from Wierwille, you would probably be aware that liquor was to be provided for him during his stay, no matter how brief. Whether it was "this brand" or "that brand" is a moot point in the context of this discussion. Furthermore, the man died as a result of metastasizing cancer of the eye and liver. It is a well know medical fact that alcohol and tobacco abuse are often major contributory factors in the development of cancer. HERE is a link that presents more information regarding Wierwille's death from cancer.

Wierwille: The Bible is my only rule of faith and practice. Interviewer: What does that mean?. Wierwille: It means I let the Bible dictate the way I conduct my life. Interviewer: What about adultery? Doesn't the Bible say adultery is wrong? Wierwille: Well, that's really "spiritual" adultery. Interviewer: Oh, I see. So, then, the rest of the morals in The Ten Commandments are really "spiritual" rules, as well. Like for instance, murder. It's not really murder, it's "spiritual" murder. Stealing isn't really stealing, it's "spiritual" stealing. Wierwille: Well, it doesn't really matter because the Ten Commandments weren't written to the people of today. Interviewer: But, aren't they part of the Bible? Wierwille: Yes. Interviewer: So, then, what's the point of saying the Bible is your only rule of faith and practice if, in fact, it's not?

OK, John, suppose morals really ARE "man-made". Wierwille claimed that the Bible was his "only rule of faith and practice." But, he didn't practice a lifestyle that was in accordance with the Bible. Therefore, he practiced a lifestyle of man made morals. At the very least, that makes him a liar.

No one ever got any "deliverance" from TWI. Not in the Biblical sense or otherwise.