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Pretty amazing, isn't it? They've gone from an organization that sent young people on volunteer missions to cities hundreds, even thousands of miles from their homes, trouncing door-to-door, inundating shopping malls, holding large, open sales recruitment meetings in public halls, hawking their wares to all who would listen-----to an organization that cloaks itself in apparent secrecy, and clandestine meetings, permitting entrance to only those they deem worthy.

Twi is a language that is widely spoken in parts of Africa, especially Ghana. I used to work with people from Ghana and Niger who spoke this language, as well as French and English, quite fluently.

No guesses?? Should I post the answer?

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Well, maybe someday I'll be "spiritually mature" enough to grasp the true meaning. Maybe I'm just not speaking in tongues enough.

Cool Beans!!

If she's not willing to meet you half way by attending your church, what would be the point? She has already shown you how deeply indoctrinated she is. If she is not willing to consider other viewpoints, how will she ever change? The Way is a multi-level-marketing organization. Participants move up through the ranks by meeting quotas. They are famous for "love bombing" potential leads, and, yes, have even been known to use sexual favors to entice prospects. You can find plenty of testimony to that here on GSC. They will rationalize illicit sex by saying we live in an age of grace and that "it's o.k. if you are spiritually mature enough to handle it." They will also rationalize deceptive recruitment techniques by saying "the end justifies the means". Be very, very careful and don't ever let them make you feel guilty or that you owe them (or God) anything. They are skilled at playing the guilt card. edited: If you want to see an example of their stubbornness, ask about the Trinity or abortion. But, be advised they have fielded those questions before and may insist you give your opinion first.

Probably ticked him off royally that they were studying a subject about which he, himself, knew little and had very few answers.

Many corporations in "the real world" have long since realized they can outsource most of those things a a fraction of the usual in-house cost. Oops! I forgot. The don't have many in-house costs.

I'd start with a summary of his credentials. (I'm a big fan of short stories.)

"The severity of symptoms seems to vary by intensity of involvement, its duration, and whatever personal vulnerabilities a person had before entering TM."-----JK Maybe this is off-topic. I don't know. You decide. I think one big factor that sometimes gets overlooked or, at the least, obscured, is that often times people came into TWI, as they do in any cult, with pre-existing problems. Then, because of the doctrines and dogmas that typify cult thinking, not only were the problems left untreated, they often times were buried deep in the layers of the person's individual "onion". So then, upon exiting the group, the person must not only deal with the problems caused directly by the group, but, also with the problems that pre-existed. Sometimes ironically, hope of conquering these problems may have been what initially attracted the participant in the first place. Some people brought lots of problems with them while others brought relatively few or none. Someone who came into TWI with lots of unresolved problems may need individual help in dealing with those problems in addition to the universal sorts of problems we all face. That's why some benefit most from a forum such as GSC while others benefit most from one on one counseling. Others find they need a customized blend of both. But, as always, that's only my opinion.

A Chet Atkins story (Can't vouch for it's authenticity) ---------------------------------------------------- Chet was in the studio warming up to record and the engineer was listening to him play in the control room. After a few minutes the engineer hit the talk-back button and said to Chet..."man does that guitar ever sound good." Chet stopped playing immediately, stood up and set the guitar in the chair where he had been seated and said to the engineer "how does it sound now?" Food for thought...

Sounds so much like TWI it's creepy. Never knew anyone who suffered from tremors but the rest of the stuff is text book.

I've been in love before. And I know that love is more than just holding hands.

Holy cats! People have been looking for the truth for centuries, millenium, really, and all the while its been hiding in the right or left brain absolutes, juxtaposed betwixt the twain. I should have known. *sigh*

Call and response

CHEAP GAS

So I hope you see That I would love to love you And that she will cry when she learns we are two 'cause I couldn't stand the pain And I would be sad If our new love was in vain

Hi, Miketheorganist Welcome to GSC Have you had a chance to look at some of articles and features here such as "actual errors in PFAL"? There is some very informative material to be found in the non-forum sections of GSC. At any rate, I'm glad you've chosen to join in the merriment. Perhaps the games in "The Reading Room and Gallery" might interest you. Or maybe the Sports Thread or the Doctrinal Forum.

We were talking about early TWI music in chat this morning so I thought I would bring this back up. I really think it still stands up on its musical merits if nothing else. PDSTRO http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=176765962

Hey, Hey! We're The Primates.

The threads are listed in chronological order of the most recent activity. There were 2 or 3 other threads that were very active during that time, so, my guess is that it simply fell to a lower position on the page. Sometimes a thread that was started years ago will find itself at the top of the page again by virtue of renewed activity and a fairly recent one will drop to the bottom because of inactivity..

Does anybody remember being encouraged to hit up the local car dealers for used car donations? We were supposed to tell them it was tax deductible because it was for a "missionary effort". I never worked up the nerve to try it myself.

The cheap/free labor was only part of the equation. The other part was that it was never good enough. No matter how much of it you did or how well you did it, it was never enough, never up to their standards. Giving them 15 or 20% of your income wasn't good enough; you had to pay your own postage to send it. Yeah, don't just stab me, use my knife. Fellow Laborers was like that. Commit yourself to their service from 5am til midnight. It's still not good enough. They wake you up at 3am to ream you out for not being committed enough, for dropping the ball. No specifics are given, just vague generalities. You feel so dejected. You've given so much. How could you have known that what you were giving wasn't enough, wasn't up to their standards? Is it possible that people who don't understand why the "freebies" were such a big deal only saw part of the equation? Maybe they never had to experience that sense of futility that comes with the other part. That would explain a lot.