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I'm sure they would welcome any excuse to move Christmas decorations and especially Christmas shopping to before Halloween. It seems like Christmas marketing in the stores gets pushed back a bit earlier every year anyway.

Good for you! Let us know how you like it.

Here's a quote I like about preaching the gospel: "Preach the gospel at all times -- If necessary, use words." -- Saint Francis of Assisi

Great story, LOL! There's a quote from St. Augustine that I love: St. Augustine's prayer: On essentials unity On non-essentials liberty on everything else love

Excie I think you nailed it.

Hi, Cman and SirGuess, If I'm following what you're saying that the real "you" is not your body or mind but it's an eternal spirit, created in the image and likeness of God. Those two verses really express it well...

Abi, You are a very wise woman. I want to be like you when I grow up. (Ok, you're probably younger than I am, but I do admire your wisdom.)

It did for a long time. But thank God I got involved in a church and got excited about sharing the good news of Jesus Christ instead of trying to get people to take "a class" and/or join my organization.

Or they could send them in to Iran as spies. This is a "real" news story. Best quote from the MSNBC news story: "Still, the squirrels that breached the Iranian border carrying sensitive spying equipment must have been nuts." Iran's spying squirrels: http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/200.../20/280529.aspx

Here's one I heard him say: 5. The US was fought on the wrong side in WW II. We should have sided with Germany against the Russians. Nope, never heard him say, "I hate the Jews."

Tonto, I can certainly understand your frustration, as well as relating to your experience in the cult (and as a Southerner). I felt the same stifling. At the time of our leaving in 1986, after being badgered for years (not by my own husband but by those over us) to be the good little submissive "leader's" wife, I had nothing left of my self. It's been a process.

Our family had a late night at our daughter's gymnastics competition so we slept in this morning and skipped the church we usually attend on Sundays. But we are going to tune in to the webcast at Harvest Rock church. We used to attend this church, but it's about an hour's drive away so we started going to a more local church. We tune in to the webcast when we can. It's open to anyone with a computer to visit their live webcast at 11am PST. Anyone interested in joining us at church? http://www.harvestrockchurch.org/livewebcast.php

For some reason this thread really got to me. I had to take some time off to get a better perspective on it. I'm not sure what sparked the thread, since I'm fairly new here and just learning my way around. I really like what AnotherDan had to say about being a guest here. I remember a teaching I heard once about how when you're a guest you don't come in and start moving furniture around (different context but applicable, I believe) so I won't try to move any furniture. If I do, I'm sure someone will let me know, okay? I think it's the use of the expression TWIt-head that bothered me the most. To me it's not the same as calling someone a Trekkie because most trekkies that I know like being called a trekkie. But I can't imagine anyone not being insulted by being called a twit. Here's the wikipedia definition of a twit. A British slang referring to a silly, annoying, ineffectual, and/or imbecilic person. An insignificant or bothersome person. I've seen that term thrown around quite a bit here, and it was used against someone near and dear to me on his first thread that he started. Funny thing, was that he was presenting a doctrine that was different than what VP taught and the people who called him twittish were arguing for what was taught in PFAL. Seems to me that it can be applied to anyone who disagrees with what someone else says. It's too bad, because he no longer posts here and that is Greasespot's loss. I wonder how many other great people decide not to participate. On a lighter note, here's a funny Monty Python twit skit. On second thought, maybe that was him in the suit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMSic0V-Xww

Dan, Is that your daughter? Well she is beautiful, has a beautiful voice and obviously loves God with her whole heart. Well done (both the song and your parenting)!

So thrilled to hear about this!

Hi Cindy! I love Jane Austen too! I'm sorry to say that overall I wasn't that impressed with the movie. There were some things that I did like about it, especially the quotes from her books and the similarities of some of the characters to those in her books. I thought that the way Tom LeFroy was portrayed, that he seemed more like Wickham than Darcy and that Jane wouldn't have fallen for someone like him. I did like the casting for Tom, I think he fit Jane's description of a good-looking Irishman perfectly. I also wasn't that taken in by the atmosphere of the movie, set, music, costumes, Anne Hathaway's portrayal. But maybe I need to see it again. When I first saw Pride and Prejudice with Keira Knightly, I didn't like it (but I always loved the soundtrack). However, I've seen it several times now and it's growing on me. Did you see P&P, what did you think of it?

Excie, I'd like to say, don't be so quick to count yourself out. I see plenty of "laboring"in the Lord" in what you do here. You're alway blessing people with your insight and wit and standing up for people who may be down. Thanks for all you do here.

Wow, Skyrider. Thank you so much for posting such beautiful, annointed words! I can't even find the words to express how much they touch my heart. The word that comes to mind is a very hearty and heartfelt AMEN!

Hi WhiteDove, I read the articles at both of those links. While it is true that adonai Strongs #136 is used only to refer to God, (Wigram's Englishman's Hebrew and Chaldee Concordance of the Old Testament pg 22) adon, Strongs #113 (Wigram pg 15) is used to refer to both human lords and the Lord God. The Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (Vol. 1pg 12 under adon) Lord, master, owner: In the simple unsuffixed form or when pointed adoni or adona(y), for the first common singular suffix or with other pronominal suffixes, adon usually refers to men... However, ther are numerous passages, particularly in Psalms, where these forms, which are the only ones to apply to men, refer to God. Exodus 34:23 combine "the Lord, YHWH, the God of Israel"... I think Anthony Buzzard's research is flawed. (But I'm sure he's a nice guy, Another Dan says so and I believe him.)

WhiteDove, You said, This isn't so, the Hebrew word adon, translated here as Lord (It's actually adon, Lord, + the pronominal suffix i, my.) is used many times of God: see: Ps. 8:1,9; Ps. 97:5; Ps 114:7; Ps 135:5; Ps 136:3; Ps 147:5 Is. 1:24;3:1;10:16;10:33; Dn 12:8 Hos 12:14 Mic. 4:13 Zech. 4:14;6:5 Mal. 3:1

mea culpa mea culpa mea maxima culpa

This one sounds like a lot more fun to me. It mentions the Burning Man festival further down in the article. I know this guy, Lou Engle, he is a genuine Christian with a mission to reach a generation: THE NAZIRITE UPRISING by Lou Engle www.TheCall.com "America is receiving Her apostles, prophets, and evangelists, but She has not yet seen Her Nazirites!" This audible voice from the Lord reverberated through my whole being, jarring me out of a deep sleep into a wakened attentiveness to the Holy Spirit. I knew that the Lord had spoken to me. In fact, God's answer had come quickly to my heart's searching the night before when my 13-year old son had asked permission with determined insistence to take the Nazirite vow of Numbers 6:1-21. In his persistence, he said to me, "Dad, I don't want to cut my hair until TheCall DC" which was 8 months away at the time. He continued, "I don't want to eat meats and sweets until TheCall and I want to go on a juice fast the 40 days before TheCall. And Dad, I don't want to play baseball this year. I want to run with you and pray for revival in America." The voice of the Lord could not have been any clearer to me through that audible voice encounter. I could hear the Lord saying to me through that encounter: "Lou, do not hinder your son from being extreme for Me. Let the young man go for it. Let him go as far as he can go with his consecration before Me. I am the One raising up the Nazirites." With fear and trembling, I knew what He was saying and I knew the holy admonition of Amos 2:11-12 where God thundered, "I raised up some of your sons as prophets, and some of your young men as Nazirites... But you gave the Nazirites wine to drink, and commanded the prophets saying, ‘Do not prophesy!'" I believe that God is saying in this passage that He was and is the One who stirs up this counter-cultural youth movement of prophets and fasting and praying Nazirites who are the dreamers that shift the destiny of nations. I knew from the encounter that night that God is raising up a new breed in America that will not be known so much for its gifts and position, but for its passion. They would be known more for their fasting and hunger for God than their feasting and games. God is Raising Up His Nazirites As I read the Scriptures, I believe the Lord makes very clear the reasons why He raises up Nazirites throughout history - to save a nation from Her enemies (Samson), to restore a nation to its moral foundations and establish a worship and prayer movement (Samuel), and to raise up a "voice" burning like a torch that can turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the rebellious back to the wisdom of the righteous (John the Baptist) and thus, prepare a nation to receive the visitation of Jesus Christ. Because of this scriptural vision and hope of the Nazirites, a week after the 1997 Promise Keepers' Stand in the Gap gathering in Washington, DC, I prophesied at a youth/young adult conference in the deserts of the Southwest that God was raising up a young Nazirite, John the Baptist movement that would go to the Mall in Washington, DC to fast and pray for a spiritual awakening in America. I declared that when they would go to fast and pray, it would be a sign that America is turning to God. On September 2, 2000, over 400,000 people gathered to the Mall in Washington, DC for the first TheCall DC gathering. I believe that solemn assembly was a fulfillment of the prophecy I received in 1997 in the deserts of the Southwest and it was a sign from heaven that this nation was turning to God. And after 8 months of his Nazirite separation and preparation before the Lord, when my 13-year old son prayed at TheCall DC for the Nazirites to arise in this nation, a roar shook that field in agreement and a generation was marked. Today, wherever I travel across America, I run into young people who were there that day in 2000 and say that the Nazirite call changed their lives forever. I still believe that despite a darkening culture around us, this nation can turn back to God because America is beginning to receive Her Nazirites in this hour of our nation's history. The Nazirite Summons to TheCall Las Vegas Thus, seven years after TheCall DC, we are summoning all those who gathered then to come to Las Vegas on October 20, 2007 for TheCall Las Vegas to renew their consecration before the Lord to turn a nation to God. For decades, hundreds of thousands of people have been going out to the deserts of Las Vegas, a citadel of ungodliness now known as "Sin City" that has become a worldwide attraction for gambling, sexual immorality, materialism and wickedness. Elsewhere in Nevada, a gathering called the "Burning Man" is held in the middle of the desert year after year. For a week, tens of thousands act out their fantasies of a world without rule and restraint in an orgy of hedonism and fire. But two thousand years ago, there was another Burning Man who roamed the deserts of Judea. His name was John the Baptist. History tells us that hundreds of thousands of Jews went out into the wilderness to see this Nazirite Burning Man - the one Jesus called "a bright and blazing torch". He would turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the rebellious to the wisdom of the righteous and prepared a whole nation for the coming of Jesus. God is raising up a Burning Man generation and calling out for thousands of young people to consecrate themselves to the Lord as Nazirites and become the hinge of history for Las Vegas and this nation, turning them back to God. Over 70,000 people gathered in Nashville on 07.07.07, now we are calling forth 20,000 Nazirites to come to TheCall Las Vegas on October 20, 2007 at the Thomas and Mack Center to fast and pray this city. "Wherever you hear the sound of the trumpet, gather to us there. Our God will fight for us" (Nehemiah 4:20).

You're so sweet. It doesn't hurt my feelings, but makes me laugh. And I still Speak in Tongues.

Excie, ROTFL! That is hilarious!

Clearly there are occult powers and spirits that counterfeit what the true God does. I was just reading Colossians and starting looking in depth at Colossians 2:18,19 This quote reminds me of "intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind and not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increases with the increase of God." People like Mesmer and other occultists "intrude" into the unseen world (the spirit realm) without "the Head", Jesus Christ and lead others astray, because they are "vainly puffed up" by their minds focused on the flesh instead of holding on to the Head and allowing Him to lead the way into revealing what is needed to supply the body with increase. Interesting how "psychic" power comes from the word "psuche", Greek for soul. James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual (pshuchike, soulish) and devilish. IMO anything that professes spiritual power, or power of the mind, without acknowledging the source of the power to be Jesus Christ is "earthly, sensual (soulish) and devilish. I believe that this is what the gift of discerning of spirits is for. You can just tell, when something is from the wrong spirit, something goes off inside.