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well your looking at the way ministry of the long past. i was told stuff by the lally's who were my limb and branch coordinators at one time. they are gone and thats good. i was kicked out by a branch guy in the 90's cause i had problems. that branch guy later left. GOD answers prayer if you believe not if you go to a study or not. you do not have to fellowship with the way or any other ministry that teaches GODS word to be protected. i read alota post of people having conversation about the way of the past. the way of today isnt anything like martindales way. alota false ministers and so called believers left or were told not to come back cause they didnt want to believe the word only cause trouble. some of them are here on this website BUT there are others here that were wrongly thown outa the ministry by others who aint here no more. i was yelled at , told i was possesed and other stuff way back when. i went to some of those independant fellowships only to find some of the same trouble makers running them and after they taught they would talk crap about the way insted of staying focased on what was taught cause some taught the rightly divided word and some didnt. i cannot undo the way i was treated by leadership in that WAS in the way long ago so i put that behind me and focus on the WORD. i am sorry that some of you were treated badly but so was i and others and until martindale and the rest were run off things were bad. i relise i will probably get alotta flack from posting this and thats fine cause i know there are some evil people lurking here along with the really good people. its written in peter that there shall be "false ministers" that shall come in among you and no longer do believers sit idle and allow others to hurt us , we kick em out ! GOD looks on the heart and if you gotta heart to know GOD you will get taken care of. all i can do is tell you that the way ministy of today is so far different from martindales way that theres no comparison. i have yet to see one person get mistreated or yelled at or told they better come or else or any of that other heavy handed law crap in the way of today. as for you folks that are gonna bad mouth me or the ministy go ahead cause i will then know who to avoid and not reply to. may GOD heal the hearts of those who were hurt by martindale and his cronies. btw i got lots of faults but nobody but me reminds me of them. i get sick sometimes and pull muscles and sprain things get blisters get teeth filled have a bad day etc. right now my arms are really sow frum workin. Shellon i dont believe that someone attending a way ministry fellowship on a regular basis wrote you that letter. that goes against everthing the ministry does in this day and time. i would like to know who wrote you that letter because that is out of line. anyone talking to or treating someone in that manner is either not thinking about what their saying or they are being a jerk and trying to bad mouth the ministry. you dont go telling somebody "see i told you so". for them not giving their name is cowardly. as for forgivness that aint got nothing to do with weather you attend a way fellowship or not thats between you and GOD and it aint nonna my business. i'm sorry you got that letter and i hope your daughter gets well. GOD BLESS YOU

if the entire WORD of GOD is going to come to pass then the planet has to be able to sustain human life. according to the enviromentalist c02 the stuff we breath out is destroying the earth. gas engines emit carbon monoxide and diesels emit sulfur dioxide but thats not whats being regulated. there have ben enviromentalist that have called for human giniside and have called man a virus on the face of the earth. the devil seeks worship anyway he can get it and this is one way. if man could make the earth where it couldnt sustain human life then the devil could wipe us all out right now and defeat GOD by not allowing all the rest of HIS WORD to come to pass.

i just reread the article as i clipped and saved it and theres nothing about an accident in the la times article. i can definitly see someone getting upset about hit and run. you hope i stick around cause its great to remember why you left ? why do you post that ? you dont know anything about me but you accuse me of doing something to you and i dont know you , thats really not cool.

so now that the gov is forcin us to buy med ins. and the dept of energy is gonna make us get a carbon foot print permit on our houses it dont surprize mee that they want to tell us how we will interprit scripture after all the head commie (obama) has said he dont like that "BILL OF RIGHTS" ! lest satan should get an advantage of us for we are not ignorant of his devices. heres the anti global warming , man cant destroy the earth scripture 2Peter 3:7 !!! i still go to way fellowships and its awesome especially cause martindale aint around with his heavy handed man made law agenda ! i drop by ever so often and i dont go tell the way whats typed here. just look for old friends and check out the news. glad i saw this gov telling me how i can read the bible. i wonder how long before they tell us we cant have home fellowships ? they just did that in rancho cocamonga ca. near ontario. they shut somebodys (not way a fellowship) bible fellowship down about a month ago. it was in the la times newspaper. the local politicians told them they will to get a permit , obtain an enviromental impact report , etc. etc. ! the devil never stops and wants to shut those down that TEACH and PREACH THE WORD ! if you are speaking the word the devil will try to shut you down ! that goes for ANYONE regardless of what ministry you be with ! gotta stop these commies from taking our freedom away or it will become like the king harad stuff ! RIP Skip Mesquite

ok thats part of the lyrics from a sonny boy willaimson song that was re=recorded by the new york dolls. i have already told everthing i dont know !

just seems to me that some people just dont want to believe GODS WORD and critize those who do believe , i was raised roman catholic and i spoke in tounges before i ever took a class of the way , the bible also says there is no GOD of course thats the last part of the verse , the WORD of GOD is not for every body and i have wondered about sit at times but its in GODS WORD and that was here b 4 the way was and i have gotten a huge amount of prayers answered from GOD by just believing whats written , my life went from very bad to totally awesome within about a year or so after taking pfal back in 1980 and applying GODS WORD in my life and i continue to go to GODS WORD for answers to thimgs like the worldly lie that man can destroy the earth stuff for its GODS WORD that is the truth. one thing that Weirwille use to say was if your preacher at the church you go to teaches the rightly divided WORD then you believe that word,sit is only fake if you belive you are NOT sit !

is there a site where i can buy a cd,tape,or album ? i had the mini ep a long time ago ,thanks ,jeff

hey i'm 51 and play in a hard rock band on the side , does that make me an OLD folk !?!?!?!? how old are you !?!?!?!?

if you dont pay your rent in advance you are kicked out by 12:00 midnight on the last day you paid for , every place i have ever rented requires me to pay in advance or else, you cannot live in a rental and pay your rent last, if you have a lease you can pay all your rent for that lease up front ,i havent had a credit card since 1979 ,i have lived without borrowing money since then, i'm 51 and work in construction and have GOD take care of me, when i decide i want something i look in the paper and on the web etc. to find the best price, the point is having GOD working with you and taking care of you , if i decide to own my own house i will pay cash for it , even if there wasnt anything in GODS word warning about buming money i would still pay cash cause i hate oweing somebody,besides this economic disaster was caused by people bumimg money they couldnt pay back, i paid 3 months worth of my phone-web-power-etc. in advance years ago just so i wouldnt be owing in advance & this was b4 twi told people to get out of debt, i know gary martin ,he was way disciple out in chino ca 2002-2003 he was single then,i have friends that go to twi & independent groups ,it is what you do with what you have ben taught that matters, you could be high fallutin way corps and not do the word and you will not see the results, GOD is no respecter of persons,in 2006 i bought a 2006 ford f350 diesel dually crew cab pick-up $38,000 and paid cash, its mine i have the title, i only make $35.00 hr and live in HIGH EXSPENSE Los Angeles BUT i believe GOD to take care of me, and i have a lot of great stuff i live HIGH ON THE HOG,an old friend of mine that runs an independant fellowship thats here on greasespot somewhere lives the way i do and believes GOD to take care of him and does very well, i still go to way fellowships , i hope this helps in seeing that ANYONE can live debt free and have the things that blesses them ,make GOD your financial manager and advisor, GOD also rides in a FORD ,honk honk....i just saw gary's picture !!!! OH MY GOSH !!!!! YOUR B-A-L-D , YOU HAD HAIR WHEN YOU WERE HERE!!!! i have long hair, i'm bald on top !!! i look like a leftover hippie from the ??????

how about what you drive, clothes you wear, food you eat , lenght of your hair, who your friends are, well you have to show those kinds of people the door cause they gotz some kind of mental thing, my dad is this way and he aint never gone to fellowship and i cant ever remember him ever going to a church. i am 50 years old and my dad still would like to control my life ,thankfully i live 2000 miles from him and dont talk to him much because of this, he even put certain conditions in his will that say i must be living in mississippi to get certain things. well i dont plan on moving back to mississippi, i have lived in la since 1987 and consider this my final home. my dad and some of these former way leaders would get along just fine!! my dad even tried to control who i dated,etc. yes i know what you mean!!!!

first let my set one thing straight !, and that is MY coffee is thicker! thats right i ONLY use folgers instant at home and i put french vanilla slim fast in it and thats the best cup of coffee i ever tasted!!! better than 7-11 !!!! better than dennys !!! when i was growing up my dad was (and if he could now would still try to control my life, i am 50 ) a fanatical control freak. talk about a list he had a book. i have met people like this and it seems to me to be a personality thing or they were raised this way. my dad still tries to tell me what to do when i talk to him on the phone,thankfully i live 2000 miles from him. i have had leadership like this before but thank God i think they are all gone. yes i still fellowship with the way or maybe they fellowship with me or something like that. i had a few bosses over the years that were like this at work, i ended up quiting. one things for shure no one and i mean no one tells me when to eat snacks!!!! now i must go drink coffee and eat some hostess ho ho's. no not santa clauses!!

thats pretty dog gone devilish, no one wouldve touched my stuff had that ben me

i started going to fellowship in 1980 went wow 2 times,the lallys were my leadership twice(barb was mean as hell) 1997 the branch coordinator called me on the fone told me i had ben given ample time to overcome some problems in my life but i was weak and lcm didnt want weakness so he kicked me out told me not to contact any believers. a few years went buy i saw a fellowbeliver who informed me about lcm being FIRED and the branch coordinator who kicked me out had left long ago(WOW!!!! now isnt that something!!!!) after talking with him for a while i ask who the local leader was and called and started going to fellowship again (this was 2001). about a year after that i was looking to move to a different area and the limb coordinator said they were looking to rent out there spare room so i moved in with my 2 hot rod cars,rocknroll music ,long hair and all!!! i had a GREAT time living there for about 14 months,then went way discilple 03-04 came back to la and continue to fellowship. this is NOT my grandpas ministry!(by the way the limb coordinator said i NEVER should have ben KICKED out!!!) the best i can tell is that ALL those B.S. leaders left or were themselves KICKED out long ago. in peter it clearly says that there SHALL be false ministers that shall come in among you. this is like the ministry i first came to but with even more love and concern for the individual. i havent encountered any legalism or other B.S. since i came back. if anyone comes in and tries to cause problems or any of that other bs that went on they are escorted to the door like lcm was. this ministry is not for everyone i have had a few friends leave there reasons ranged from they really werent into reading and studying to liking massive amounts of alcohol to they would rather spend there time doing other things besides going to fellowship.its really messed up that people were wrongly kicked and treated like S ESPECIALLY when these SAME people are no longer around. its a spiritual battle my friends i hope this sheds some light on this stuff,whish you the best,GOD bless you ,jeff

hello my is jeff and i was a wow in cheyenne wy. 83-84 . originaly from mississippi this was my first experience with blizzards! were are you originally from, how did you like wy? bill and eve ginninthal were our branch coordinators. just thought i would say hello ,jeff

SMOKIN POT!!!!!!!!!!!! what about PANS and DISHES !!!!

a year or so ago i was in an extreamly stressful job situation and was pretty tensed up and went to talk but the words came out all out of order and there were some words that i couldnt even speak, this lasted for about 30 seconds and freaked a few people at work out , a few days later it happened again and that was it . i figured it was due to the situation i was in its never happened again. but what do i know maybe it was a stroke. a friend of mine had a stroke and heartattack about 3 years ago. he has 2 stents in arterys he pretty much recovered and still works on the airtanker airplanes that fight forrest fires. he was in the area for a few days and we went to eat out monday night and youd never know any of that happened.

when i was in school we always had that class called physical ed. they made use put them gym clothes on and do all them exorcism's !!!

i usually call my voice mail on my cell phone but than i have to remember to answer it !!!

about 15 years ago in a short time span i was involved in 3 motorcycle accidents. the 1st one (1973 honda 175) was me coming down the street and a car coming the opposite way turned left into a driveway right in front of me. fortunantly i was going slow enough and the only damage to the bike was bent forks i wasnt hurt. the 2nd one (1984 kawasaki gpz 550) was i'm out on the freeway and a car changes lanes and the back of it hits the front part of my front wheel instantly slamming me on my right side i got a lot of road rash and both hands spraind, case savers protected the engine,a few paint scrapes and 1 broke handle bar the lady said she DIDNT LOOK before changing lanes!! 3rd one (same kawasaki) i was making a right turn on a side street and a vw bug turned left out of a parralell parking space (illegal u-turn) in front of me ,i managed to get the bike turned a little so as not to hit head on,hit hard enough to warp bike frame,bend forks,dent tank,break both handle bars, bike was totaled,i got brused ribs, doctor said tendon in right knee was slightly fractured,and i dont remember if there was anything else, the driver didnt look before making illegal u-turn from parking place. i always turned the headlight on the honda on, the headlight on the kawasaki automatically came on when key was turned on ,no on-off switch only high-low beam switch. the first driver saw me but turned anyway,2nd and 3rd drivers didnt look ,i am very fortunate to have not had any serious injury however i personally know a guy that was broadedsided by a red light runner and lost an eye, among some other things,he was very badly injured. always look for the motorcycle !

that was elvis !!!! come back from the dead !!!!! and he's all shook-up !!!! thank ya ! thank ya very much !!!

i understend the people thing. i experienced that at twi , my dad was a violent drunk and i didint talk to him from about 1986-1992 when he finally stopped drinking, but the worst part of dealing with people is the job i do . i work construction,and 8 hours a day 5 days a week can really wear on you if you got people that are down right jerks. there are some really cool people in the construction trade but there are also a lot of jerks. i could quit and do something else but how would i know what kind of people would be there, maybe drive a big rig truck, however i'll stay cause i like what i'm doing. i look at what Jesus Christ had to put up with,even his family at one point so i know i can handle it.i am not religious and i do my best to friendly to all,i hope you make some friends here and i wish you well. one day we will be in a place where everyone will get along. GOD bless,jeff

no they ain't gonna snuff him out , dont get him all worked up, i go to twi fellowships and i post here and maybe i'll post over there too (or maybe i'll turn into a post and hold up a sign or post tostee !!!) and i'v told some about grease spot ( hay! whats this greasespot doing in the bottom of my coffee cup ?!!!) and they dont care and i wouldnt care if they did care cause its nun of any bodys business but mine. by the way i had a guy on my construction crew that did snuff and he was always making a mess on the floor with that snuff, as far as post tostee goes i prefer frosted blueberry POPTARTS covered with butter and then microwave until melted serve with glass of milk eat 8 at once, and that is probably what warped my fragile wittle mind, take care ,jeff p.s brown sugar and cinnamon frosted pop tarts are just as good!

what area is that ? i live in the los angeles area and have applied for one several times over the years, even went to that citizens review board and all that stuff they require, and like every other ordinary citizen was DENIED!!!! ALL that money wasted. they required that you have a gun safety course when i applied and i took a weekend class at a gun safety school. that was probably 10 years ago. i dont know what they require today, but they wont give permits in la. hopefuly the u.s. supreme will say what the 2nd ammendment says and we wont need no permit!!!!