WordWolf

For the most part, a certain level of education was a cutoff in twi. If your education exceeded a certain point, you were discouraged. That point generally was "know enough on a subject to be able to document that twi's top idiot who's making things up as he;s going along is completely wrong." In twi, vpw was assumed to be correct no matter WHAT he said, as if he was some sort of expert on EVERYTHING. vpw DID put himself forth as an expert on everything- he had opinions on all subjects and expounded at length whether or not he actually UNDERSTOOD the subject. lcm did the same and moreso. He was easier to catch at it because vpw KNEW he was conning people and deceiving them. lcm was convinced vpw was telling the truth and following correct policies, so he never tried to moderate his tactics. He was upfront and direct with his nonsense- which makes it easier to detect. Honestly, was there ever a statement on, for example, world history, US foreign policy, or US history from either of them that was completely accurate? vpw quoted the Liberty Lobby and other nuts, spoke against Holocaust history (as did lcm) and spouted various bits of nonsense from his favorite authors. As long as he had a source, he ran with it. lcm was twice as nutty, and didn't need even 1 nut to write things down first. Anyone remember his rant about the Pope's aircraft carrier?

Got it- "The Joker", Steve Miller Band?

Robert Preston the Music Man Ron Howard

Heh. Put that together with some of the more obvious examples of how twi contradicts Scripture, and even the most diehard kool-aid drinker will have to admit he's suppressing his thinking processes in order to stay in.

Correct. Your turn.

Ok, let's pretend it was officially confirmed so we can move this along. "I thought I heard her calling my name now"

Hey, hey, congratulations! I'm delighted for both of you.

It was. It's not Oscar material, but it's worth watching. It has some drama, some funny moments, etc. It's a little of a lot of things. Go, George!

In fact, most of it takes place due South of the Continental US.

Bingo.

Hints: This movie, mostly, does not take place in the U.S. It stars Brad Pitt and Julia Roberts.

"Hola." "I no f*** around, comprende? Gun, gun, loaded. Bang, bang. You dead." "Do you have a speech impediment?" "You're missing the grand design here! If I don't go, I'm dead! Yeah. And it's a little hard to carry on a relationship when I'm stuffed with straw and formaldehyde." "I need a lift in your el truck-o to the next town-o!" "All right. Jerry, I want you to acknowledge that my needs means nothing to you and you're a selfish prick and a liar. "Oh, my God!" "Jerry, acknowledge." "I... Ok. I will acknowledge that I promised to go to Vegas with you. But now we're just slightly delayed. If you want to construe my wanting to stay alive as being selfish, well, then okay. But I have every intention of going with you because your needs are very important to me, sweetheart." "Raoul!" "I know we're all a little grouchy right now. We'll get something to eat, you'll get the pistol and then we'll go our separate ways." "I am a hostage? This is so Jerry." "Why? Why? Because you stole from me and you know about the pistol and you're just gonna steal again and I can't have you coming back in the situation like a fly in the ointment." "No, I won't be a fly! You'll never see me again." "Look, you're getting shot and that's it. It will take you time to get to the next town especially if you're limping." "Wait! Wait! What? Limping? Can't you just tie me up some more? I mean, ...., you shoot me? Tie me!" "Yeah. I don't have a rope." "So you shoot me?" "It's the American way." "You know, you're very sensitive for a cold blooded killer." "Hola!" "Is this your dog?" "Uh, sort of..." "He does have a personality, that cetainly counts for something." "Yeah, good guy..." "This your car?" "Yeah, it's a rental... I'm an American." "No sh**?" "Yeah." "Really?" "Yeah, yeah..." "I am a Mexican." "Cool."

Arnold Schwarzenegger Twins Danny DeVito

Getting back to twi and outrageous statements, one of the things that accompanied some of vpw's outrageous statements was YELLING. He had odd things he claimed (perhaps he believed them, perhaps not) and he pushed for people to embrace them. Sometimes he yelled to do that. Sometimes he yelled because he was angry and venting. Even lcm documented this inadvertently in his book about how vpw was so great. People protected a floor when a piano was resting on it, but putting a piece of plywood under the piano. vpw didn't like this for some reason. He yelled at the people that they had to "fight for this place" and stormed out. Never gave any indication what the heck that was about or what he thought should be done differently or how, just yelled and stormed out. Lots of EMOTION, no LEADERSHIP. Lots of DRAMATICS, no SELF-CONTROL. Then there was the time lcm did vpw the courtesy of meeting vpw with "his" golf cart (which twi owned) so he wouldn't have to walk. vpw jabbed his finger at lcm and yelled "Keep your hands off my stuff!" Then there was the time lcm went away for a few days and didn't check in verbally with vpw. Instead of saying "Are you all right? What happened?" like a person who actually cared about the other would say, to vpw it was all about HIM and how lcm did him the discourtesy of not checking in with him. "WHAT KIND OF EGO TRIP ARE YOU ON?" Of course, lcm was vpw's disciple, and learned what vpw could teach him, becoming the quintessence of vpw's practices and pollicy. lcm went around two-fold the child of hell vpw was, yelling and screaming at people, and making up new things to justify it like "spiritual anger". That excuse came up whenever lcm wanted to vent at length and had a microphone, and felt like giving an excuse. Eventually, he didn't even bother and just yelled without pretext. So, twi, outrageous claims from vpw and lcm, yelling and theatrics. All part of a complete picture of twi, vpw, and life at the top of twi.

Ah, there's your answer right there. I don't question that a manager may need to get attention or even raise their voice to be heard. I've had different managers and supervisors, a number of whom had to raise their voices. What is NOT required was YELLING or SCREAMING. Managers I've had who felt the need to YELL or SCREAM, ALL in my experience- were less respected than those who did NOT yell. It's not about YELLING or SCREAMING, it's about the OTHER things you mentioned 1) "having a pressure point" 2) "keeping their cool" A manager or director needs to have control over situations- which means the FIRST THING about managing is to manage YOURSELF. If you have personal crises, don't lose it at work and yell at the workers. In a crisis, there is no TIME to yell, vent and panic. You raise your voice and control the situation. On 9/11, I watched television footage of what happened. One clip I saw drove it all home to me like nothing else could. When the cloud of debris engulfed the streets, all vision was completely blocked. Eventually, the air cleared, and EVERYTHING was COVERED with powdered debris. The camera showed the air clearing (relatively, now we could see), and the camera was pointed in the general direction of a police officer. He stood up, and assessed his surroundings. At that moment, you could hear a woman panicking. The police officer CALMLY and LOUDLY began addressing her, and sounded well in control of himself. (Not me, I was watching the whole thing at home and couldn't keep my cool from the comfort of my living room. He was there and had self-control. So, I say to you, you do not HAVE to scream to be a manager at fast-food or any other kind of manager. You can raise your voice and speak loudly if needed, but that's different than SCREAMING. SCREAMING indicates a lack of self-control.

No, you have to be able to communicate with all your workers. You can move to where they are and speak clearly. If you're determined you need to stay where you are, you can raise your voice without a "scream." If you "have to scream" at your workers, you're not cut out to be a manager. (Unless, say, the worker pulls a knife and tries to stab someone.)

"Hola." "I no f*** around, comprende? Gun, gun, loaded. Bang, bang. You dead." "Do you have a speech impediment?" "You're missing the grand design here! If I don't go, I'm dead! Yeah. And it's a little hard to carry on a relationship when I'm stuffed with straw and formaldehyde." "I need a lift in your el truck-o to the next town-o!" "All right. Jerry, I want you to acknowledge that my needs means nothing to you and you're a selfish prick and a liar. "Oh, my God!" "Jerry, acknowledge." "I... Ok. I will acknowledge that I promised to go to Vegas with you. But now we're just slightly delayed. If you want to construe my wanting to stay alive as being selfish, well, then okay. But I have every intention of going with you because your needs are very important to me, sweetheart." "Raoul!" "I know we're all a little grouchy right now. We'll get something to eat, you'll get the pistol and then we'll go our separate ways." "I am a hostage? This is so Jerry."

Posting at this hour? I must have "Too Much Time On My Hands", like the song by the great band, STYX.

"Hola." "I no f*** around, comprende? Gun, gun, loaded. Bang, bang. You dead." "Do you have a speech impediment?" "You're missing the grand design here! If I don't go, I'm dead! Yeah. And it's a little hard to carry on a relationship when I'm stuffed with straw and formaldehyde." "I need a lift in your el truck-o to the next town-o!" "All right. Jerry, I want you to acknowledge that my needs means nothing to you and you're a selfish prick and a liar. "Oh, my God!" "Jerry, acknowledge." "I... Ok. I will acknowledge that I promised to go to Vegas with you. But now we're just slightly delayed. If you want to construe my wanting to stay alive as being selfish, well, then okay. But I have every intention of going with you because your needs are very important to me, sweetheart."

I'm waiting a few hours to see if anyone else takes it. I like to give a fair chance rather than leap on it.

It's also interesting to note how that story CHANGED. The first time I got revelation was FAR less dramatic, and I can recall what happened, what I did right, and what I did wrong, in excruciating detail. (I can prove it, too. I have an eyewitness who got all the details he didn't see a relatively short time after- and he can probably retell it nearly identically to how I'd tell it. That must have been over 20 years ago. So, MY significant incidents, I remember those clearly and they stay the same over the DECADES. vpw supposedly has a much rarer incident with God, but can't seem to keep the details straight. First he tells of hearing from God. Then his re-tellings include the snow. Then the snow changes- the earliest accounts match the one in Mrs w's book, and say the sky was BLACK with snow. The accounts after that, and BARELY so, perhaps 2 years later- suddenly have the sky WHITE with snow. It's almost as if vpw kept trying to fine-tune his story, looking for the most interesting things to add to it, and to correct obvious factual inaccuracies like a whiteout blizzard looking black instead of the white of a whiteout. (Thus the term "whiteout.") Of course, some people not only refuse to consider the possibility that vpw lied about all that, but get offended that others even THINK about it and post vpw's own contradictory testimony, to the point they verbally attack those who do so and insult them, slapping labels on Christian posters like "the devil."

*checks his watch*

I'm neither, as such. I don't go around saying "Oh, Hackman's in this? Then let's see it." I mean, I'm fine if he's IN the movie, but he's not my determinant or anything. Ok, next movie. "Hola." "I no f*** around, comprende? Gun, gun, loaded. Bang, bang. You dead." "Do you have a speech impediment?" "You're missing the grand design here! If I don't go, I'm dead! Yeah. And it's a little hard to carry on a relationship when I'm stuffed with straw and formaldehyde."

Let's see. Based on all that, and not "Hunt for Red October." (And not "Yellow Submarine".) *thinks* I think the other submarine film was "Crimson Tide." I know that was the name OF a film.

I'll clarify the point I was making before. I thought people would understand it from the context. It is obvious that we have 2 possibilities: A) vpw lied completely about the Tulsa incident as regards to all the SUPERNATURAL claims he made- that is, the blizzard that shut down the city, which has been proven to have been false, and then the claim that Stiles specifically attended the event because God told Stiles (we only heard this from vpw, of course, and not Stiles) to show up to minister the spirit "to one man", with vpw insinuating that was him, and then compounding that lie when caught by saying angels must have shown up at all 4 phone calls, answered the phones, and lied to vpw all 4 times to keep him in town. B) vpw told the absolute truth all the time concerning that incident. Despite him having been proven to be a liar at other times as well, he told the absolute truth that angels zipped around the various transit agencies of Tulsa, answered the phones, and lied to vpw, and God or an angel told Stiles to go to the Tulsa meeting specifically to minister "to one man." As I see it, there's no third possibility concerning whether there was a blizzard. vpw originally claimed there was one, but weather reports and Mrs w contradict this, making it impossible. When vpw found out the weather reports contradicted him, he didn't react like someone who was stuck in a city due to a blizzard (I was there, the airport was shut down, recheck your dates and your city) but instead switched to "Ok, there WAS no blizzard or any snow, and I must have had angels lie to me on the phone each time I called someone." vpw never addressed how he could be convinced there was a BLIZZARD on the same day the weather hit 60 degrees Fahrenheit, and there was not a flake of snow on the ground or in the sky. If asked, he most likely would have added to his story again and said angels must have flown around, made illusions of snow in the ground and on the sky, and convinced vpw that the temperature was actually about 40-50 degrees colder than it actually was. (For those wondering, that's about the difference between "I can't wear a jacket since it's too hot" to "I need a coat and it's cold enough to begin snowing.") Having said all this, it's predictable, although no less tragic, that there are people who will read that and say "Yes, vpw told the truth. Angels flew around doing that while vpw was being ministered to by Stiles who was in town because God specifically sent him to minister to vpw, who taught God's Word like it hasn't been known since the 1st century." It's a free country. vpw himself had said that if a man wants to be stupid, he can stay stupid. This, apparently, has been embraced by adherents to wierwillism.