WordWolf

Check your own sentences- you went from "It was the FEAR-in the HEART-of that mother- that killed her child" to "the fear the mother had which CONTRIBUTED to the death of her child". Perhaps you did that unconsciously, but don't try to shift the blame like that. vpw said the sole cause of the child's death was the fear of his mother. Therefore, he said the mother killed the child, and the murder weapon was her fear. "It wasn't HER, it was her FEAR." Yeah, and it wasn't the crazy man, but the bullets from his gun that killed those kids in Virginia Tech, and bombs don't kill people- but the EXPLOSIONS do. If you can't see how silly it is to try to say vpw didn't say she killed her child via her fear, you're in the extreme minority. Lots of us got that the FIRST time thru pfal, and there's been posters who posted about mothers who became fearful of damaging their own children via their thoughts as a direct result of sitting thru Session 1. And if you still believe the LAW of Believing kills people and deflects crashes like in Session 1, that is NOT my fault. And he was wrong TWICE. Medicine shows that having a positive attitude contributes to good health, in that being depressed can weaken the responses of the immune system. No COMPETENT medical source has ever claimed that even 70% of health, let alone diseases, are rooted in anything psychosomatic, let alone "SPIRITUAL." (How many medical sources USE the word "spiritual", for that matter?) And the Bible does NOT indicate that MOST material manifestation is the result of our spiritual attitude, let alone ALL. If that was really true, all the most ardent vpw worshippers would have hit the Powerball lottery or cleaned up at Las Vegas at Slots by now. Your presumed spiritual attitude would have manifested bags of material wealth for you. What the Bible ACTUALLY says is that the rain falls on the just and the unjust. What vpw did was blame anyone who suffered for being in the position of suffering, since they were supposedly the ones who could determine their circumstances. Didn't waste any time putting the blame BACK on the imaginary mother, did you?vpw couldn't possibly have been blowing smoke up our keisters, so there must be some way to completely reinterpret what he said, adding special conditionals that completely redirect from his emphatic "GOD WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE" to keep you from suffering consequences you fear. If your conscience is fine with that, that's your business. I would agree, but the yelling is tacky. lcm in particular was famous for making claims to the effect that God wouldn't do anything for you if you didn't tithe. (Specifically, he talked about God spitting.)

There's a saying, popular on the Snopes boards (no, I don't post there), that "The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'."

the Rocketeer Bill Campbell "Bram Stoker's" Dracula

Wasway got it- Lou Gramm's "Say Hello to the Night (Lost in the Shadows)", off the Lost Boys soundtrack. You posted Wasway's answer-correctly. Therefore, it is George's turn.

Ok, just saw this movie recently, and she was in it, playing herself at the Academy Awards... Naked Gun 33 1/3 Weird Al Yankovic UHF

It was one of the best rock soundtracks ever recorded, IMHO. (Although Lou Gramm hardly did the ENTIRE album...)

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Also notice the "examples" used to "prove" that this fear-thing supposedly worked, and the believing-thing supposedly worked did NOT come from verifiable sources, but rather from ANONYMOUS ANECDOTES, nothing we can prove ACTUALLY HAPPENED, but we are meant to believe them ENTIRELY. Examples: A mother kills the child through her fears. (Every day, LOTS of mothers fear for their children's safety, and every day, LOTS of mothers see their children home safely.) A man begins to get a crippling paranoia he will become a car-crash statistic as he drives, but after a pep-talk, he returns to being a safe driver. (Ok, this one is possible, but hardly a "law"- it's more how someone can cause a self-fulfilling prophecy, or follow a pep-talk.) A pair of men sit in a room and focus their minds on their goal- which then shows up and makes itself known to them, all as the result of their sitting in the room and focusing. They become rich philanthropists, but nobody likes them despite their charitable contributions. (And yet we can't FIND a record of them- is it possible they never existed?) BTW, this story is in TW:LiL and made a big impact on lcm, as he himself recorded in his own book, "vp and me". Funny how he took all sorts of photos of all sorts of things, but we he never went back to that woman and said "Can I get a photo of those drapes for my scrapbook?" despite using it as an illustration for years, and supposedly he was one of the main participants in that story.

"One must hide when the sun gets higher. I___don't____know____what____this____ mad-ness____means." But I, I keep moving on Till the darkest thought makes me want___to___try___these___wings"

Honestly, this was a 2-parter, and should have been 1 episode on Data and 1 on Worf. Data's episode: a power-surge trips an inert program in Data, his dreaming program, for the first time, and he seeks to understand his dream-which included his inventor, his "father" Dr Soong. Worf's episode: he's approached by someone who claims his father survived Khitommer, and follows the trail to a Romulan camp of Klingon prisoners (his father was never there), and re-introduces Klingon culture to the descendants of the original prisoners, many of whom wish to return to the Klingon Empire and leave the camp. (Eventually, they are released, providing they maintain the secret existence of the camp.)

This doesn't address your question, as I see it, but I thought it was important to enter it into the discussion as early as possible, for general relevance's sake... Matthew 18: 15-35 (NASB) 15"If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16"But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED. 17"If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, (P)let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. 18"Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven. 19"Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. 20"For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." 21Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, (T)how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to (U)seven times?" 22Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. 23"For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. 24"When he had begun to settle them, one who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. 25"But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children and all that he had, and repayment to be made. 26"So the slave fell to the ground and prostrated himself before him, saying, 'Have patience with me and I will repay you everything.' 27"And the lord of that slave felt compassion and released him and forgave him the debt. 28"But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves who owed him a hundred denarii; and he seized him and began to choke him, saying, 'Pay back what you owe.' 29"So his fellow slave fell to the ground and began to plead with him, saying, 'Have patience with me and I will repay you.' 30"But he was unwilling and went and threw him in prison until he should pay back what was owed. 31"So when his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they were deeply grieved and came and reported to their lord all that had happened. 32"Then summoning him, his lord said to him, 'You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33'Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?' 34"And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35"My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart." Of course, there is also an exception to forgiveness... Matthew 12:31-32 (NASB) " 31"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. " Oh, here's what I was looking for... Luke 17:3-5 (NASB) 3"Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. 4"And if he sins against you seven times a day, and returns to you seven times, saying, 'I repent,' forgive him." 5The apostles said to the Lord, "Increase our faith!"

Next song. "One must hide when the sun gets higher. I don't know what this mad-ness means."

"Where are you from?" "Ethiopia." "What part?" "125th Street." "Call Sammus Davis Jr! Call Sammus-he'll vouch for me!" "Boy, when you 'die' at the palace, you really DIE at the palace!" " It is said that the people are revolting." "You said it! They stink on ice!" "The Lord, the Lord Jehovah has given unto you these fifteen... *crash* Ten! Ten commandments! For all to obey!" "We are so poor, we do not even have a language! Just this stupid accent!" "She's right, she's right! We all talk like Maurice Chevalier!" "Count de Money!" "DE-MO-NET, DE-MO-NET!"

Let's move this along. George, just post the answer...

"WiB": short for "Word in Business" conferences. "ACS": "Advanced class Specials: the current form to take an advanced class, offered a few times a year for a long weekend at one location or another. Usually offered at a hotel during Thanksgiving weekend- which deprives you of a family holiday but allows twi to lock in a low convention rate- since NOBODY wants to meet then. There seem to be plans now to offer them at another location- possibly Camp Gunnison or something. Time will tell if anything comes of that.

Well, there's 2 types of abbreviations in use (not counting WD-40). A) internet abbreviations. Those are semi-standardized and are in no way dependent upon the GSC. Those used more commonly are here: http://netforbeginners.about.com/cs/netiqu...eviations_2.htm Those used less commonly are here: http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/textmes...breviations.asp B) GSC abbreviations. Those are generally abbreviations for things in twi. Many or most of those are found here: http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=4734 Your example "WiB" stands for "Word in Business" conferences.

Contrary to popular belief, THIS is my favourite song Duran Duran ever made. (I find it more sing-able than "Hungry Like the Wolf".) This is "RIO." "Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand, And I might find her if I'm looking like I can. Oh, Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land, From mountains in the North down to the Rio Grande." (Radio stations used to cut that off ALL THE TIME.)

"I spent six days in the lava caves. For five days I saw nothing. Then, on the sixth day, as I was preparing to leave the caves... Kahless came to me." "Kahless. The entity you invoke during the Klingon Death Ritual?" "When he appeared before me... he told me that I would do what no Klingon had ever done." "You did become the first Klingon in Starfleet." "Yes. It is as he said." "Why are you asking me about this?" "I have recently had an unexplained experience, which might be described as a 'vision'." "In the Klingon MajQa ritual, there is nothing more important than receiving a revelation about your father.Your father is part of you...always. Learning about him tells you about yourself... That is why, no matter where he is... or what he's done... you must find him." "But I am not looking for my father." "Yes, of course... Do not stop until you have the answer." "It is a dangerous journey..." "Dangerous... It would be more dangerous for you to refuse." "I am sorry to disturb you, sir." "Not at all. I'm just studying the intricacies of Bajoran aqueduct management... I could use an interruption about now. Please, sit down." "I require your advice. I have come to an impasse regarding my recent unexplained experience."

"Don't get saucy with me, Bernaise!" "Seize him!" "Seize THIS, honkus!" "Geez, don't ever say that to the COPS!" "Half of the men will run with me- and the rest will run with Mucus!" "Shall we continue to build palace after palace for the rich? Or shall we aspire to a more noble purpose and build decent housing for the poor? How does the senate vote?" "F*** THE POOR!" "Bishop threatens Knight!" "I'm fighting with CARDBOARD!" "What are you looking for?" "A pack of Trojans!" "Aw, gee i just ran out." "Judas!" "What-what-what??" "Would you like a beverage? The mulled wine is very good..." "Say when." "8:30." "Do you know the penalty for a slave that strikes a Roman citizen? "Ok, you. You had your hand up first." "Death by torture!" "No. You." "Crucifixion!" "No. You." "They shove a living snake up your @$$!" "No, but that's very good." "Hitler on ice!"

Men in Black II Johnny Knoxville Dukes of Hazzard

Well, see, that's a fundamental difference between you and Oldiesman. Oldiesman maintains that-from the beginning-as a applicant to the way corps program, you were clearly told that you were training to spend a lifetime serving WHEREVER TWI ASSIGNED YOU, doing WHATEVER TWI ASSIGNED YOU TO DO, and were thus expected to be at the beck and call of twi FOR LIFE. "A lifetime of service" clearly meant "A lifetime serving twi and following any and all orders from twi, fully at their disposal." Oldiesman's said that those of you who thought that the training for "a lifetime of service" meant "a lifetime of serving GOD ALMIGHTY with the specifics at YOUR discretion and not TWI's discretion" were under-informed. Mind you, the initial advertising OF the corps seems to reflect YOUR perception- which is why there were t-shirts that said "corps grad" on them, i.e. the person COMPLETED their training, and thus, their obligation to twi. Later came the removal of that expression and the sayings like "a lifetime commitment to the corps." Later also came the expectation that lcm was supposed to be followed blindly. One corps person responded to the 1989 loyalty letter by calling and saying to lcm that it sounded like he wanted them to follow him blindly. lcm replied that he already was doing that. The corps person responded that if he thought that was the case, then lcm could kiss his @$$ and hung up. So, lcm, by 1989, certainly thought the corps were supposed to follow him blindly for life. This was another example of the way corps expectations exceeding the military- for once you've completed a tour of duty with the military, you are military until you die, but you are a private citizen with all your freedoms and responsibilities once more. In twi, eventually, once you've completed the 4 years of the way corps (the tour of duty), you're now expected to surrender your freedoms at their whims for life, and have the responsibility of dropping whatever you are doing when they call. Oldiesman would assert that was always SUPPOSED to be the case, and those of you who were told otherwise were misinformed, and those of you who thought otherwise were incorrect.

CG groups have the option of either sending CG 15% of their intake, or paying once a year for a "license." IIRC, that amount was reported at the GSC as $2000 per year, but there's no guarantee it STAYED at that price. It may have gone up or down. Either way, CG has to have a "cut". Even a local one-household group would need to send 15% of their tithe to be "official". Sounds good.Any idea what the $2000 a year is going to? (*Does the math.* Hm. 20 groups paying $2000 a year would mean CG clears $40,000 in licensing fees alone. Plus whatever comes in as 15%. Plus any materials he sells. And I'd be very surprised if that all wasn't listed as "religious", and exempt from TAXES. Sweet money if you can manage it. Of course, his Social Security will be nonexistent if he's not declaring a salary, but if he's investing in his own retirement, that's a secondary consideration at best. Besides, if he can keep licenses coming in indefinitely, that's a perpetual income source. So, any idea what the $2000 a year goes to?

Really. Who knows, maybe in a year you'll LIKE the idea of visiting, and it's not bad to NOT delete an account. Enjoy your life either way, but I'd rather you not delete the acct entirely.

"Don't get saucy with me, Bernaise!" "Seize him!" "Seize THIS, honkus!" "Geez, don't ever say that to the COPS!" "Half of the men will run with me- and the rest will run with Mucus!" "Shall we continue to build palace after palace for the rich? Or shall we aspire to a more noble purpose and build decent housing for the poor? How does the senate vote?" "F*** THE POOR!" "Bishop threatens Knight!" "I'm fighting with CARDBOARD!"