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It is only in this process - the comparing of word to word, scripture to scripture that constitutues one having a "more powerful microscope". The KJV, NKJV, and later translations do not allow for it (now one may get a different rendering of one verse compared to another translation, but that does not necessarilly produce any greater insight on a biblical topic or subject) nor do any of the biblical tools available to study the bible do that. All the translations and bible study aids available on the market are not pre-occupied with the end result of: "NO CONTRADICTIONS" in the overall revelation of the Word of God. However they are very concerned with the bible backing up their theology or some political church doctrine they subscribe to, even to the end of seeing it preserved in this latest: "new translation".

I didn't respond to this last night because I thought I'd wind up repeating myself with what I said in the above post. But now I feel I need to say something. It looks like What the Hey and Mike parrot the same propaganda from PFAL. What the Hey, you ought to provide some documentation for that accusation in bold red...There's lots of threads on GSC that get into VPW's twisting of the Scriptures to back up his theology...And I'm not saying everyone else has got it right - but usually legitimate scholars are very skilled in their area of expertise and provide sufficient evidence for the ideas they forward. Unlike VPW handling "with" in John 1:1 - where to suit his theology makes a serious departure from what the Greek word pros means - I got into that a little bit on the With Apologies to Jesus and the Trinity thread, along with Raf and MarkOmalley clarifying the definition of pros, see below [especially post # 32 and following],

http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...opic=9372&st=20#

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It looks like What the Hey and Mike parrot the same propaganda from PFAL. What the Hey, you ought to provide some documentation for that accusation...

Yes they do, and using the word "parrot" for what WTH does is more than apt.

Asking WTH to provide documentation for someting-

unless he can cut-and-paste it from someone else-

is a lost cause.

WTH's posts rarely touch on something original-neither perspective, nor thought,

nor even gonzo idea.

Not only that,

but he's a week late.

He was summoned as Mike backup a week ago, and only now is getting

around to actually posting on the thread.

He held off a few days because posting a few hours after I posted,

announcing that PLUS the content of his posts would have just

looked sad.

I mean, it's one thing to be criticized for just parroting someone else's

doctrine and throwing up distractions,

but to have a post criticized for doing that BEFORE THE POST IS WRITTEN

is a paean to UNoriginality.

The closest thing WTH did to original was now he plagiarized Mike rather

than vpw or someone offsite. I suppose that might be considered progress

of a sort.

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In other news,

I'd not hold my breath waiting for something to back up the wild

accusation that Bibles are solely printed to reinforce denominations.

vpw didn't have any proof, which means Mike has none,

which means WTH has none.

Documentationwise, there will be no surprises here.

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Meanwhile,

as always,

WTH's post was meant to distract from the main subject.

Now, once I was taught that a figure of speech appearing in the Bible

was meant to draw attention TO something.

Then it remains to see what it was drawing attention TO.

When it comes to WTH's posts, we have the opposite effect.

Therefore, we know something exists from which the attention

is being taken. Then it remains to see what it was drawing attention FROM.

In this case,

it looks like it's to change the subject off Mike's partial silence on the

subject of Christ's return.

Now, not posting, in and of itself, is not proof of anything.

(We all get busy.)

However, with WTH distracting off of this-

and Mike's sudden U-turn on offering tl the books-

Mike could then hope that nobody remembered either subject

when he returned.

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Star Trek fans know that detection of subspace distortions can be

a warning of a cloaked Romulan warbird.

That makes the attempted use of a cloaking device into a warning.

Similarly, GSC posters can use the appearance of WTH as a

warning device, and use them to find what's considered important

enough to hide.

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However they are very concerned with the bible backing up their theology or some political church doctrine they subscribe to, even to the end of seeing it preserved in this latest: "new translation".

yeah... that does sound eggzackly like what veepee was doing doesn't it?

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Star Trek fans know that detection of subspace distortions can be

a warning of a cloaked Romulan warbird.

That makes the attempted use of a cloaking device into a warning.

Similarly, GSC posters can use the appearance of WTH as a

warning device, and use them to find what's considered important

enough to hide.

Captain, captain!!!!! We've picked up a message from the Borg vessel with TWI markings on the hull: "You will be assimilated - resistance is futile."

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ON the subject of Christ's return I have no recollection of VPW ever saying anything about it being a long process ever saying there was a secondary spiritual component about it. VPW, used the return to support his theory that the dead are not alive, meaning both the body and the spirit die.

:offtopic: no furthur contact from Mike

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Templelady,

What makes you think Mike's thesis has anything to do with what Wierwille actually taught

RAF :love3:

Thank you, for once again reminding me that the Doctrine of Mike is what is being discussed on the thread. Sorry, Little old five senses me is so used to the adage "if you quote, quote exactly" that I have real trouble remembering that quote to MIke means "anything I, in my fevered brain have extrapolated that might or might not have anything to do with the original reference"

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Howdy folks. I'm experiencing the annual Spring Cleaning rush in my business and am not able to spend much time at my computer. It looks like I have a lot of reading to do. I'll see you all when my my schedule clears up a bit.

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God first

Beloved Mike

God loves you my dear friend

did you really write this

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When you see Christ in his glory he will be holding a PFAL book in his hand and teaching you from it."

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The PFAL book is flesh book and why would JC read from a Flesh book when he has all spiritual knowledge from reading the spiritual book of truth

Christ will come spiritually and we will put on a spiritual new body not a flesh one that dies but a spiritual one that can not die

If you want to talk to VPW ask God then talk if God gives you the ok

You be better talking to VPW than claiming Christ will come back with a flesh book in his hand

Are you sure you have not made your god VPW or the PFAL?

I know your a good person and I think highly of you but I never dream you say "When you see Christ in his glory he will be holding a PFAL book in his hand and teaching you from it."

i will stop here

while I just read the first post sorry if you heard this before and sorry to who ever may of said the same words

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

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God first

Beloved Mike

God loves you my dear friend

did you really write this

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When you see Christ in his glory he will be holding a PFAL book in his hand and teaching you from it."

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The PFAL book is flesh book and why would JC read from a Flesh book when he has all spiritual knowledge from reading the spiritual book of truth

Right on, Roy!

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:

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MO... do you really, really want those books? ...really?

Hmmm. If ya do Mo -- I have an extra set here at the house my ex left behind,

when she moved out. One set is MORE THAN ENOUGH for me! :biglaugh:

Ps -- only one I can't send you is the RHST book. I only have one of those.

I lost my copy somewhere through the years.

PPS --- and YES!!! I will send them to you if you want!.

But -- personally I think you would be better off NOT having them.

You sound like you're happy with life as it is, and don't need any complications. ;)

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AAhhhh yes - but will these be the APPROVED editions??? I wonder ....

Just coming down to the dungeon for a while - now I have to go get rid of some pineapple....its way too close to my pizza!

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The purpose for obtaining the books was

To see just how much I actually remembered

To see what was true in them

TO be able to cite the necessary verses when our host was "unable"

Heading out for vacation but will get back to you on those book when I return home, dmiller

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This coming Monday I fly to Seattle and have dinner with my brother and his family. then on to Spokane. Tuesday my girlfriend and I leave the cats with her husband and head for Lincoln City Oregon for 5 days of nobody but us--I'm turning my cell off and went out and brought drawing supplies. Then back to Spokane for 11 days may take a trip out to Montana to see my sister -- will be looking at housing-may move next year probably not this year unless a whole lot of things fall into place. then back to Anchorage the end of the first week in June. Can hardly wait

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