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Like so many other "lessons" propounded by TWI, 4 crucified was meaningless drivel. If one hasn't learned to treat their fellow man with the respect and equity with which they, themselves, would yearn to be treated, they have leaned nothing at all. You can learn to ride a bike, put it away for 50 years, and climb right back on after all that time, still possessing the ability to ride a bike. Not so with interpersonal relationships. There is no end point. Every day is another chance to do better than you did the day before. This concept of becoming a better human being is lost to TWI's endless pursuit of pedantic excellence.

Classic John Lodge tune.

He was so much more than just a singer in a rock and roll band.

The ministry = TWI. Dr Wierwille = vpw. M&A would freak me out too - have to have a second look. The Corps - agh! My mum joined the local Salvation Army when her Methodist church closed down. They call the leaders there, and the singers, "the Corps." Made my hair stand on end the first time I heard that.

I was at work and saw an acronym M&A and immediately went to mark and avoid in my head?!? What? It’s been around twenty years since our freedom into the wide open spaces of God’s grace free of performance and the constant pressure of measuring up. Why did my brain translate a hospital news article as mark and avoid? Also why do I still refer to the Way as “the ministry?” I catch myself doing that still and it frustrates me. So many really good ministries genuinely meeting people’s needs and teaching the God’s Word are out here-TWI doesn’t have a monopoly.

These are easy quotes? *wild swing* "Sling Blade"?????

I beg to differ WordWolf, Buffalo Springfield was a huge band. Still is. Stephen Stills and Neil Young are a big a part of rock history, first as CSNY, and second as solo artists. Stills alone stands as one of the most talented musicians in rock and roll. Neil Young goes without saying. I know I'm a big fan. Which two songs George? Maybe you might remember this one WordWolf.

You guys know he wasn't really a Dr., right?

I haven't called Vic Wierwille "Doctor" in decades. I still hear it a lot, though. George

Thanks guys! I think my biggest surprise was thinking of Mark and Avoid! “The ministry” is frustrating but then when I am talking about it with other ex members it’s sort of like what else would I call it?

I'll put some up soon.

Meh. I still call it "the ministry" out of habit. I never stop to consider the semantic implications. I'm sure there are lots of other non-cult words and phrases in our vocabularies that we never stop to analyse in-depth. I still call bandages "Band Aids" without much thought. I just don't worry about.

Someone should really tell her.

There's always next year.

Wait so I wasn't one of 4,000 WOWs for the 40th anniversary?

And now Imelda. Also predicted to veer northeast and away from the continental US: George

Welcome, Edgar. Nice you've decided to join us instead of just peeking round the door! You are very welcome here, and you may find some genuine "release from your prisons" that were built by the iron strictures of TWI. Neurodivergent? Good, you bring a different viewpoint. We're all ready to hear, discuss, consider. Have a cup of coffee while you're pondering what to think.

Pro-choice? Hardly. It was never about a choice. Pro-abortion is a more mathematically accurate and scientifically precise description. Abortion was merely a rational and practical method deployed to mitigate risk of reputational and financial loss.

Good point. The thought keeps coming to me that if TWI ever were big, really big; no doubt it would encourage all members to pursue government action. Perhaps not directly, but individually. After all, what zealous religion who thinks it has the true word wouldn't?