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A few months ago, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. (Early stage, no metastasis.) My boss pointed out that the radioactive tracer FDG (fluorodeoxyglucose) is used to detect cancer cells because glucose derivatives are consumed more rapidly by cancer cells than by healthy cells. He suggested a low-sugar diet. My GP suggested teh same thing, but to lower my triglycerides and A1C. When I asked my radiation oncologist about it, he said that some cancers might have a positive response to a low-carb diet, it doesn't really apply to prostate cancer. He pointed out that, just like other cells, when glucose is unavailable cancer cells will eat whatever nutrients ARE around. I will be undergoing radiation treatments shortly, and, ironically, in order to avoid gas production which could interfere with the targeting, I'm now essentially on a high-carb, low-fiber diet. Mashed potatoes, pancakes, and oatmeal are fine, salads and uncooked vegetables are not. Also, because the radiation may affect my urethra, acids and spicy items are no-nos (so no orange juice or coffee in the morning). About the only things that are both low-carb and low-gas are grilled meats and fish. One thing that really DOES promote prostate cancer, unfortunately, is testosterone, so I've been on a testosterone blocker for a couple of months now. My PSA has dropped to 1.1, which indicates that the cancer isn't growing. The bad news is that I'll have to remain on the blocker for up to two years after the radiation treatments. The good news is that my oncologist is quite sanguine about my chances for eliminating the cancer. George

Pro-choice? Hardly. It was never about a choice. Pro-abortion is a more mathematically accurate and scientifically precise description. Abortion was merely a rational and practical method deployed to mitigate risk of reputational and financial loss.

I understand how you could come to that conclusion and there is a forum in doctrinal. My main comment is, why should we believe or trust anything VPW said? Please don't allow his words to continue to have any say over your current life. I am thankful for all of us who have found freedom outside of TWI.

And now Imelda. Also predicted to veer northeast and away from the continental US: George

Welcome, Edgar. Nice you've decided to join us instead of just peeking round the door! You are very welcome here, and you may find some genuine "release from your prisons" that were built by the iron strictures of TWI. Neurodivergent? Good, you bring a different viewpoint. We're all ready to hear, discuss, consider. Have a cup of coffee while you're pondering what to think.

thanks i hadn't thought about that until recently. it doesn't bother me but jeez. not a healthful learning environment for sure

That never sat well with me. Even on the face of it, it seemed like nonsense. So I ignored his "interpretation" completely.

That was an interesting clip. What it doesn't discuss is the different regional accents that might also have come into play. Shakespeare was a Midlands man - probably, dropped "H"s and dropped "U"s, and generally a different accent from what there is in "received pronunciation." Also, as a Midlander, he may well have used words that were dialect words common to the local area but not nationally; or used words in a different way from "national" used. His vocab might also have included more "northern" words not necessarily known in provincial London. Why is that relevant to this thread? Because there is actually no telling how words might have been used in different parts of the Roman or Christian eras. Was the way a word was used and understood in Ephesus or Corinth the same as how that same word might have been understood at the same time period in Jerusalem, Rome, Crete, etc. Similar, maybe, Same, maybe, maybe not. What were the customs of the time, too? So what could that verse, that word, be referring to that might not be so obvious? Americans use some words right now that are different from how the same words are used in British English. And Brits use some words differently from how many Americans might use them. Sometimes they even mean something offensive in the "other" use of the language (what some, perhaps not all, Americans do to tighten a spanner is an offensive word meaning masturbation in British English and thus a big insult to hurl at someone). You cannot possibly read a Bible verse and tie a whole theology to it. That really is "private interpretation." You have to read in context with other verses relating to the same subject. If you're more widely read, see what commentators have to say (and why). If you're even more widely read, you might have studied ancient languages and you're smart enough to see how ancient Syrian, ancient Aramaic etc changed. None of us here have laid claim to that level of education or study.

P.S. Some of the women victims of VPW's sexual abuse spoke out in Karl Kahler's book, still availalbe to purchase at The Cult That Snapped.

My most immediate concern is the outsourcing of one's thinking- to AI, or to mindlessly swallowing and regurgitating everything from a single source, whether online or offline. The idea of opening a "discussion" -on a subject where I'm concerned people aren't doing their own thinking and discussing- with a link for a video to watch strikes me as...well, a little ironic. In another context, I'd complain about someone who insisted he was right- and "explained himself" by posting a link and essentially assigning homework for anyone who wanted to know why they should take him seriously. (No, not now, but it's happened before on the GSC.) I remember "discussions" and I'm a little surprised that we've gotten a number of "discussions" where the "discussion" started with "read this book" or "watch this video" and not actually DISCUSSING anything. I'm a little dismayed that people think this is perfectly fine.

Their being nice folks, to me, is beside the point. I'll bet they really are very nice, just as many people were when I was involved back the day. I hope and think I was "nice" too but I was totally misled, deceived, and gaslighted by VPW regarding himself, the Bible, and his organization. So in my opinion, being nice does not mean the BOT folks are not misled or worse, that they are not in denial of facts that would make most nice people shudder. In Whiteside's book they are reprinting, if you are clear-eyed when reading it, you can't miss VPW's narcissism, his conman fast-talk, etc. But I suppose when you're still loyal to the image he wanted people to buy into, you can't be so clear-eyed. I sure bought into what's in that book when it was first published in 1971 when I was in the Corps. The questions that come to mind for the current BOT are many, but here are just two: 1. How do they explain why VPW was a great man of God, appointed by God (as Way leaders still assert) given the many women he abused, for example? I realize there is only one woman who put that in writing, in a book called Losing The Way (which is out of print now) but I assure you I personally know the names of many women who were in his sex ring, but they told me in confidence, so I am not at liberty to say their names here. Some have come out on social media, I think. 2. How do they explain why they sell VPW's plagirized materials as if those books and teachings originated with him? For instance the holy spirit book he copied almost word for word from J. E. Stiles book on that subject, as well as the book How to Enjoy the Bible by Bullinger. (These facts have been shown over and over from many sources. One good source besides my own book, Undertow, is John Juedes on YouTube for instance this video about the four crucified with Christ teaching that VPW took from Bullinger. The number four is arrived at by a fundamentalist approach to the Bible, a way of harmonizing the gospels that ignores the facts about each gospel's purpose, historical background and the men who wrote each one. For what it's worth, here you go:

You piqued my curiosity. A Hoyer lift is a mechanical patient transfer device that uses a fabric sling to safely lift and move individuals with limited mobility from one surface to another, such as a bed to a wheelchair or toilet. It eliminates the need for caregivers to perform manual lifting, which reduces the risk of injuries for both the patient and the caregiver. The lift operates using a hydraulic or electric-powered mechanism to gently raise and lower the patient, providing secure support during the transfer process George

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Thanks. Prostate cancer is one of the most curable, so the odds are on my side. George

When I was in cancer treatment 27 years ago I used the Atkins Diet during treatment, for whatever that's worth. I do know cancer is fueled by glucose, and not oxygen, and starving cancer out makes sense. I would also look at the various foods that are anti-angiogenesis like strawberries and pearl Jasmin tea, earl grey tea, also taking Turkey Tail mushroom mycelium.

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Understanding Anchovy Varieties and Flavor The taste of anchovies can vary significantly depending on their processing method [1]. Cured anchovies, often packed in oil or salt, tend to have a strong, salty, and pungent flavor [1] [2]. Fresh anchovies or those pickled in vinegar are generally milder [1]. For beginners, starting with oil-packed anchovies is often recommended as they are ready-to-eat and can be more palatable than salt-packed varieties, which require rinsing and soaking [2] [3]. High-quality anchovies are described as tender, meaty, with a silky texture and clean brininess, contrasting with "shoddy products" that can be overly salty [3]. Brands like Agostina Recca, Cento, Don Bocarte, Ortiz, Nettuno, and Scalia are often recommended for their quality [5]. Nutritional Benefits to Expect Anchovies are a nutritional powerhouse. A 2-ounce (45-gram) serving canned in oil provides 95 calories, 13 grams of protein, 4 grams of fat, and 0 grams of carbohydrates [1]. 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Rinsing salt-packed anchovies before use can help reduce sodium [1] [2]. Individuals with high blood pressure or other related health conditions should monitor their intake [1] [2]. Parasitic Infection: Consuming raw anchovies increases the risk of parasitic infection (anisakiasis). It is recommended to consume fully cooked anchovies if possible [1]. Domoic Acid Contamination: Anchovies may be contaminated with domoic acid, which can lead to amnesic shellfish poisoning (ASP) [1]. By starting with small amounts in cooked dishes and gradually exploring different preparations, you can successfully integrate anchovies into your diet and enjoy their significant health benefits [3] [4] [6]. Authoritative Sources Anchovy Nutrition: Benefits, Downsides, and How to Eat Them. [Healthline]↩ The Nutritional Benefits of Anchovies. [Patagonia Provisions]↩ Anchovies Are Good for You. [Men's Health]↩ The Health Benefits of Anchovies and How to Cook With Them. 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I am reminded to rewatch Beverly Hills Cop (1984). What fun!

We need something to get us out of all of this gloom..

This one is a real treasure.. heh. Half (drunk?) clueless (expletive beginning with B) looking for God in all of this mess.. heh. I have grown to love and appreciate Cheryl.

I think this one was earlier.

Thank you dear Oldiesman..I enjoy your Saturday Night. here is my new Saturday night.

If their pro-abortion stance would be problematic for today’s movement, their John-Birchy flat-earthiness might just be enough for a second look and possible seat at the theocratic table.

Will that work?

Out of respect: You posted this in atheism. You do NOT want to know what I think of Charlie Kirk. So I will move it and I will ask that we refrain from referring to the killer's motive as "demonic," which (under the umbrella of the atheism forum) is a lazy scapegoating that robs a homicidal a-hole of responsibility for his despicable act. And I will ask that we refrain from politics, which is impossible in a conversation about Charlie Kirk (which is why I feel compelled to change the name of the thread). So henceforth, this thread is narrowed to the following: Do we agree? [moving to doctrinal).

Good point. The thought keeps coming to me that if TWI ever were big, really big; no doubt it would encourage all members to pursue government action. Perhaps not directly, but individually. After all, what zealous religion who thinks it has the true word wouldn't?

My opinion is that using AI-generated answers instead of researching things on your own, or to do your own thinking for you, is bad for your mental health. I've seen obviously incorrect answers about things that were relatively straightforward. About things that aren't, the odds are far worse for the answer to be correct. An answer is only as good as the information the AI uses to compose the answer, and the AI can't tell the difference between tinfoil hat conspiracies and legitimate science.

What's that I hear? Is it the sound of thin ice cracking?

It would seem so on the surface, but we must remember as freedom loving Americans that any form of total government may start inoffensive and exciting at first but turns out to be a tyranny later. Remember that old saying from Lord Acton: "power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Might not this be better in the Matters of Faith > Atheist thread?

LOL! That and a few rhetorical tricks.

He was ordained into the Methodist church and had theological differences. Left and retrained an Episcopalian minister. I think he is also having difficulties there. As we here know all too well, it's hard having to be in an environment that is so rigid to its own rules and forgets that the rules and the organisation are there to serve the people, and not the other way about.

Much Less Prayer Requests: I believe that is because there are much less people here.

She didn't, but since she's the professional and I'm the student, I didn't argue and simply accepted what she said.

How did she convince you that you had been hypnotized other than saying you were?