Leaderboard

For devils? I'm not saying all offshoots, or everybody associated with the old ministry.. that would include me as well I suppose. It just seems to me.. all of the ingredients are in place, in a few places. Unbridled, unchecked "authority" to dismiss participants at any time for any reason.. A Doctrine which cannot be questioned for any reason, only discussed and studied as if it were from the Mouth of God.. Absolute ignorance and denial of the past history of the parent organization, including proclivities of its founder and leadership.. Deification of the founder of the old organization.. it all looks like the makings of a breeding ground for mini-loys, mini-psycho geeros and the like..

I remember those Corps Evaluations in March. First year I was out, March came along and Hallelujah! No meeting!

No, that was actually "Treasure Island," by Robert Louis Stephenson. If you'd like to try, feel free to give a quote from a book, so we can guess the author. I've gotta tell you, though, the players here (myself, included) are better with pop culture than with literature. George

OK, I'll jump in. What are the best books ever written, other than the Bible? My favorite book for example is An American Tragedy.

Why was wierwille and co. ALWAYS using the physical elements to "teach" about the spiritual realm? Why did we have to climb rocks to believe God? Why did we have to move in a snowstorm to be challenged and/or trust others? Did we really have to string chairs to learn attention to detail? Why couldn't we simply learn the spiritual realm BY FOLLOWING WIERWILLE'S LEAD ....ie healing the sick, casting out spirits, demonstrating God's power? Oh, wait....that would mean that our dear leader HAD TO WALK THE TALK, not hide behind illusions of power, rewritten history or pontificating podiums. Silly me. Come to think of it.....I was in a corps training designed by a man who didn't have the understanding to research the correct lighting techniques for pfal filming and had done considerable damage to his eyes in the process. Was that believing or the consequences of ill-fated passion that finally caught up to him? Climb rocks to learn believing?

I never heard about Ken Barden.....But, I kind of heard various stories about that LEAD situation. I suppose there are many stories and situations that I never heard about at the top. I, myself, was a lowly sometimes Leaf, sometimes TC who was always told I had a devil spirit hanging around or was possessed, however no one could help me at the time.......what happened to all that power they had??? I should of bolted when my parents presented me with some facts about TWI and I ignored them as being from the pit. I should of bolted when I lived in an apartment with believers and they said the towels were not hung correctly....huh??? Seriously??? I should of bolted when I didn't understand what they heck they were teaching, but said, Oh it must be me. I think I was very naive at that age.....and I was really needing a family that loved and accepted me........I should have bolted~

Matthew 5:45 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth spit on the just and on the unjust. :redface:/>

I used to think that the ones who left were missing out. Now I know the ones who left were the most fortunate.

I should have bolted when - I was in Mississippi and the branch leader told me I was poison to the branch. Should have said, OK then, I'm doing you a favor and I'm out of here.

With emphasis on both "controlling" and "huckster." "Controlling"- chafed at ANY accountability and structure when HE answered to it, did his best to set up one so long as others answered to HIM "huckster"-talked a good game and could relay convincing sermons, but was a horrible example in real life, lacking self-control, cheating on his wife, raping/drugging women, treating a ministry as his own piggy bank, chain-smoker and alcoholic, etc, etc. If he'd read, understood and actually believed Scripture, he would have actually tried to be a "Doer of the Word" and not just a "Speaker of the Word."