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  1. Of course they'll bless the people that'll find them. Like Saint Vic blessed the authors he plaigerized. Like Saint Vic blessed the women he forced himself on.
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  2. What did the preacher say when the 2 pickles were getting married? Dilly Beloved
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  3. The ministry version: Wayberry RFD (Really Foul Denomination) .
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  4. Did you hear about the two spiders who just got engaged? They met on the web.
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  5. I think BG may have had something like this in mind, from Romans 2: And as for Jesus, did he not spend time with those who hadn't heard of him, with those who didn't believe who he was, and with those who only knew vague whispers about a Messiah? Was not the Promise to Abraham, who'd never heard of Jesus? Does God not want all people to be saved? Unwise to lift Rom 10:9,10 out of context. Get a bigger vision than what TWI taught, especially about these verses. Get a bigger view of "saved" and salvation, too. And note, while you're about it, that BG didn't call people to his own cultic ministry. He referred people to local churches, places in their area, where they could be taught, mentored, guided, not by him but by people who knew the area and culture into which he was preaching. He didn't take all the glory to himself but acknowledged his fellow laborers (local churches) in their work for God.
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  6. Why thank you Grace Valerie :)
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  7. Wow, that's 2 times I made people laugh tonight :) But what is LMAO? Leaving Messages Artfully Outrageous ??
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  8. D'ya know what, Mike? It wouldn't be acceptable a very long time ago. I just googled "history of copyright law usa" and found this little gem in Wikipedia (my emphases in bold/underlined): Thereafter follows a lengthy discussion of various copyright laws in the USA. And this was being talking about then (1783 !!!) because the British Copyright Act 1710 (again, note the date) did not apply to the American colonies. If folks, Americans, were concerned about this in the early 1700s, and definitely discussing it and petitioning about it towards the end of the 1700s, how can you say it didn't matter only 60 years ago? There's no exception, as you claim. It's okay to say you still benefit from the gems. I'm pleased for you that you do. Just give credit where it's due. (Big hint: no name with initial W comes anywhere near). PS do note that I have cited the source of my info! Not too difficult or confusing, was it?
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  9. translation = he's exhausted his smokescreen supply
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  10. So what you're saying, Mike, is that TWI was never academic, despite (1) its purported "degrees in theology" (and a degree is a recognized level of education - it's a bit more than a school leaving cert) and (2) the Research Dept was no academic thing, either. If TWI had really thought its product was any good, it would have circulated it widely. After all, that's what most authors do, isn't it? And anyone who has researched God's Word would (by your argument) want to share it because it belongs to every person, or is it every believer? I can't remember your "qualification" from other threads. And some of the authors sell into an academic market, and some, like Ortberg and Yancey, sell to people who want more readable material. But that isn't what TWI wanted. It would be embarrassing (at best) to be found out in plagiarism. And even any original works (like the collaterals - if indeed there were original material there) couldn't sell in a wider market; there's so much better stuff available in an already over-provided market. Never mind being "peer-reviewed," these things wouldn't stand up to being reviewed in any other than a captive market. I think your comment, "It was a rural farmer country church family. Plagiarism doesn't matter there" rather belittles the abilities of rural residents. I think if they knew he was stealing other people's intellectual property, they'd be outraged at the idea that he was passing such off as his own material. There's probably a higher level of trust among country folk, and they don't like the theft of their own machinery and equipment; stock, crops and animals. Whilst they'd probably gladly share ideas on production, etc, with their own kind, they'd probably be pretty upset if someone took those ideas, patented them, and tried to sell the ideas back to them.
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  11. Thank you WaySider, for making a positive contribution of value to the discussion. I wonder how 'The Johnson Amendment' applied to Billy since he was so heavily involved with politicians...
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  12. I am going to derail this topic for a moment. I don't attack people. I attack ideas. If someone thought I was going after an individual when it came to me calling people lunatics, I'm sorry, you're mistaken. I don't do passive/aggressive. So unless I address you directly, it's safer to assume that I'm not talking about you. I sincerely do not believe that 99.9999% of people who believe the bible take the OT at face value, even when they think they do. One who would take it at face value would resemble a salafi purity police on a mission more than even an ultra-orthodox jew. As comical as I find the ultra orthodox in their need to avoid me to maintain purity, I don't consider them lunatics. However, lunacy is readily apparent when one is a true believer muslim. Engage even the so-called "moderate" in a discussion of the practical application of their religion and just behold the lunacy. Same with the TV preacher. Dial into the Daystar channel and the likes of Pat Robertson and even Joel Osteen and tell me there's no lunacy going on there. I would beg to differ. I spent years as a proudly fundamentalist christian, but I have never been particularly religious. I am really uncomfortable with the religion aspect of it. In 2005 I returned to school full time a few months after CES and I parted ways. That's when I started really looking into critical thinking. While I use critical thinking and problem solving continually in my profession (I am a computer person), I kept that separate from being a christian. In 2008, that changed. I read a number of Brian McLaren's books, one being "A New Kind of Christianity". I don't remember the specifics, but I do remember walking away no longer a fundamentalist and no longer willing to overlook the havoc that religion causes. Since then I've found myself becoming increasingly cynical and simply not caring about what it means to be a good christian. I have found that I am a kinder person as a result of not needing to run everything through the christian filter to gauge the rightness of something. To top it off, instead of feeling bad, all I've felt is relief. I've always known why I'm not a Mormon (although no one does families better); why I'm not a Scientologist; why I'm not a Jehovah's Witness; why I'm not a Muslim; why I'm not a trinitarian, but I never really considered why I was ever a christian. Some people seemed at peace being a christian, but that was never me. I fought too much with the text. It just never sat well with me. For years I blamed me. Then it dawned on me that the reason why I struggled so much with it is because it never put me in a win/win situation. It's fine if all you do is hang out with the "like minded", but there is always that tension when you are not. Are they saved? Am I acting christian enough? Now I really do not care and it is such a relief.
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  13. I answered the poll. 57 Minnesota by way of Indiana. Oh yea - - - born and raised Catholic too. Here's a recent joke I heard about Catholics. On a Banjo forum. I got a chuckle out of it: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lent, Moose. and Codfish Each Friday night after work, sun, snow or rain, Jack , being a Newfie, would fire up his outdoor grill and cook a moose steak. But, all of Jack's neighbors were Catholic. And since it was Lent, they were forbidden from eating meat on Friday. The delicious aroma from the grilled moose steaks was causing such a problem for the Catholic faithful that they finally talked to their priest. The priest came to visit Jack, and suggested that he become a Catholic. After several classes and much study, Jack attended Mass, and as the priest sprinkled holy water over him, he said: "You were born a Protestant and raised a Protestant, but now you are a Catholic." Jack's neighbors were greatly relieved, until Friday night arrived, and the wonderful aroma of grilled moose filled the neighborhood. The priest was called immediately by the neighbors, and, as he rushed into Jack's yard, clutching a rosary and prepared to scold him, he stopped and watched in amazement. There stood Jack, clutching a small bottle of holy water which he carefully sprinkled over the grilling meat and chanted: "You wuz born a moose, you wuz raised a moose, but now you is a Codfish." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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  14. I find it very interesting that someone would leave their home to enter a bible ministry -- and even more interesting that they should leave. Until August 2009 I had no idea about the skeletons in the TWI's closet. So I'm interested in a) why you all went in and b) why you all left. I've read many individual stories on this forum but, being a researcher, I like to quantify things. Also, since I'm evolving in my spiritual beliefs I'm interested in how you all have evolved. I also find it interesting that all of the born-again Christians I know personally were Catholic at one time.
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  15. BRANDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Sorry I never called you Godfather. RIP
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  16. Marlon Brando was a powerful actor. His earlier work was what gave him the reputation that he had. Streetcar named desire...The waterfront... He was really able to play these intense charecters...Apocolypse Now, Godfather...he had one of the most intense stares...he's the only guy I can think of that could have played Hannible Lectur as intensely as Anthony Hopkins did. R.I.P. to one of the greats.
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