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I have no idea on how it was received. IIRC, circa 1980 or so IBM was working on the lightweight Selectric "ball" or 'typing element" with that alphabet. Then the PC came out circa 1982 and bye bye you wonderful Selectric you. I just looked. It seems that many Academics like it, though they are aware of it's origins, and that old "Father, Father, for this purpose was I....." was translated per vpw in Piffle. DETOUR: RE: Dominionist Theology: what a CROCK of poo-poo. If those Dominionists are in charge in anything in this future Kingdom they speak of (Millenial Kingdom) or get any authority, then I will tell Jesus personally to count me OUT! I will stay outside those walls. Rhema Words??? Good gravy....even further out on the edge of the Bell curve than twi. Speak the Words of God from your Spirit, and it will come into being. These words are special Rhema words....not Logos words...huh? The more of us who do it then the more effect it has. Hence, IMHO, that's why one can see this on FB and the like. I had respect for these folks at one time. Great respect the folks that now believe that crap and even "suggest" that believers names might be written in the Stars, too. And, maybe even learn what your Ministries are if you run your birthdate on our little program....for a fee...levels I- III. Guess who owns the Program? Another quietly uses this Program as a way to help one recognize and free-up your Ministry areas. Each level up, more detail, more bucks. Not much....but, why? More Ethelbert taken as Gospel. And, thanks, all you Dominionists, for creating another Class struggle, as you use your superior wealth and connections to influence OUR Country and World politics so that all will comply and submit to you, and more, in His Holy Name. I thank you for showing me publicly your true thoughts and loving ideas- DOMINION over us all....in Love, of course! For Him, most certainly indeed. Bunk. Go reread the Gospels, please and thank you! Back to the thread.

That letter is quite revealing. Headquarters...a private joke among him and his lukewarm supporters? Manipulation with guilt, woe is me, I'm really trying here... I've heard this whining in my profession from everyone over 40 years...whine..... For the any era, especially the mid 1950's, that was a brazenly forward letter. No wonder the adults wouldn't listen to him. Him telling them what to do. Family folks in Ohio farm country. He called my Mom and Dad for an Ambassador One weekend circa 1978...they were grads in name only.....Dad saw through it in a second, and just had a nice chat with him, then hung up. They declined then and there. That brings me to another topic, and I'm not trying to derail this, but during my time in-residence I found out that there were certain select folks who were SECRETLY taken on "special" trips on Ambassador One, or by other means, to special weekends, and I'm not sure they were ALL Ambassador One weekends. They were told not to tell anyone. Hush Hush. My in-rez corpse bros and sisters'. This came to me second hand from a corpse sis long after we left in 1986...they left in 1984. All of them had well off parents. Like Candace G, or Bob K. Anyone else get to do this, or know about it? He was an .... all the way back then.

Hi, Surfcat, and Welcome. There are some good waves at this locale. Enjoy.

And, tadaaaa, the book jacket. EmporiaRecipes_Cover.pdf

The fact that these folks are just now leaving illustrates, to me, that their minds have been dipped in a formaldahyde type solution: they don't work well anymore. Their social circles won't change, they'll still live with their current worldview, they'll all be clinging like I did that what we were taught must be right? please? whoa, that is, IF they even question it. Manipulated by Holy Scriptures? Please, say it ain't so, Joe. My current view is all we got Theologically was an offspring branch of Protestant Christianity (yeah, I was reared Methodist), that started with Darby back then in the 1830's, Dispensationalism (a BIGGIE!) into the Revivalism movement, to the toned down Charismatic movement birthing from Pentecostalism (no pun intended). The basis for us being at the outside edge of the Standard Bell curve? Bullinger (not as hot as we were taught), Stiles (who?), Leonard (who?). In other words: hogwash. Others may even say the entire Bible. I know quite a few of those folks. I liked some of them then. I am saddened that they stayed. Sigh. I finally accepted my Geological tables, 9th grade Earth Science, the Brachiopods (fossils- at least 550 million years old) I found coupla' years later at 15 years old in a creek bed behind my home UP in my Hills at Elevation +800 ft. I quit on the vapor canopy theory of the Noahic Flood, and any glimmer of hope with Creationism died out, sadly, but refreshingly nice, too. I understand a lot more NOW, and am still exploring. From what I've read, I might be kinda' on the same page with a few others here. Some loudmouth guy here comes to mind. The steps toward resolving these conflicts is not as hard now, and my mind is full of more questions now, but not in a confusing way. This has been worse than getting a coffee stain on a brand new white shirt! These "jumps" or "parsing" in worldviews requires a flexible, unfearing mind to be able explore. Nimble. Aware. A true natural curiosity makes it more fun. I feel I am just getting started at times. I don't think they can do it.

I was looking at Boxing terms a bit ago, and this reminds me of when a fight is stopped by the Ref for any number of reasons. " Other times a referee simply deems that a fighter is too battered, defenseless, or hopelessly behind and outclassed-all without a knockdown having occurred. I wonder if this is a TKO? BTW, I see where the 12 really could have missed this "GO into ALL..." I know a little about how the Jews separated themselves from the unclean "others." Gentiles. Very conscience decisions all the time on this in daily life. For centuries. Cultural norms. Traditions. So, I can see how Peter and the others may not have truly understood until Acts 10 and Cornelius. After all, Jesus wasn't exactly "with" them on a daily physical basis after that. The little birdies got kicked out of the nest so they could learn to fly. It took Peter 10 chapters. LOL. DOH! I know I have some Homer Simpson in me, too, just like those guys seemed to have had back then.

Well, it's been a long wait for some of you, but here, for all of you Millet lovers out there, is the Recipe booklet from WCE. I am posting because it's liked by some, and I don't see it around the Cafe'. Goodness Gracious. From 1981- 1982. There may have been a cover page that got lost. This is one of the things I saved....HAH! Don't use it hardly at all, but for some who knows? It's scanned in 2 parts, front back. It was broken apart from it's booklet form, which was (2) sided, and stapled. The memories associated with aromas is powerful, at least for me. In 1991 I made my Grandmother's chicken and dumplings. Never had it at our house because my Mom didn't like them growing up. Only had them at my Grandmother's house. Anyway, I dropped the home made dumplings into the pot, the final step, and as the dumplings began cooking, the aroma was overpoweringly wonderful, and I hadn't smelled that aroma for about 30 years. Wowee Zowee. Oh, it took me back. That night I had a dream, picture perfect!!, and I was in my Grandmother's kitchen again as a kid, into her undercounter cabinets looking for chocolate....like I used to do all the time when I was over there; they only lived a coupla' blocks from me. So wonderful because I was over there so much, and I had forgotten. So, enjoy, please. EmporiaRecipes_2.pdf EmporiaRecipes_1.pdf

Ohhh, Ex. Me, too. Sigh.

Deal!

Yes, we did. I didn't know if you'd remember. Coconut Creek on Sample Rd, I believe. I will say this: I have watched your skills as an Investigative reporter get well honed over the years. And, I've almost emailed you a few times to tell you I liked this article or that article. Well done. Stay on it.

Congrats, Raf. That's my paper, and I've been seeing your bylines for years now. Your beat takes you into some nasty arenas, and I enjoy reading about it, and not being in it. I find the Sun-Sentinel to be an outstanding paper. You guys and gals deserve this, and Wowee Zowee, The Most Pestigious Pulitzer given. Well done, my man! Cheers!

ROFLMAO, Raf. Yeah, those 70 weeks. The first Rubik's cube for many! NO comment.

Thanks Grace, I haven't been around here much for a long time, and had never seen that link from Penworks (Thx, Penworks, BTW), but on all the other pretty current. I was at the reading of POP at corps week in '86. Have read portions since. My gawd, that poor man, look at the burden on him and how he really serves and shields the MOGFOT and how he tries so hard, and no matter what he just keeps trying, and the hurt and pain of OUR beloved MOGFOT, oh, I wish I had been there.....sob sniff tears.....NOT. I also know two fellas, 8th and 10th, who flew to Gartmore with another Rev back then to get an OK to go around the overturned eighteen wheel "Yuk" twig, or get instructions on what to do. They wanted to see Geer. These three were doing the run around on their higher ups at HQ. Another mutiny inside a mutiny like the little Russian dolls. The one where DWBH was confronting all of 'em seems like. They were going to wrest back this "thing" away from them, or do whatever had to be done, and get it back on track. And, it would have been just as awful. Firstly, DWBH would have had to confront at least one of them, too. That was a sprout of the first offshoot...it died. Asked my old Bro' in person 3 years ago, "Why did you go?" "To find out how to save the minus-try." Said his plan had always been a "career" in the minus-try. He had climbed up to Limb Coor. by '85. "So, what did he tell you? Anything? Or, did he just sorta' look at you with that psychzoid I'm getting revelation don't mess with me kinda' look?" Hardly nothing, he says....a whole week! Hope they were Scotch drinkers! Hope it wasn't raining on your parade there in sunny Scotland! Honestly? It's really kinda' super hard to see miracles and have joy and love and those things without the Holy Spirit, who, best guess, had to grievingly depart from Twit, if it ever was really there much at all because of the corruption and sin. But, to me, most especially, the Holy Spirit had to leave because of the denial of Who Jesus really is...the Christ...the Logos in Person! Not a Book. Found in That Book...not the Book. Knows my name, every hair counted, loves me as the Good Shepherd that He is, Was, Always shall be. Mine. His. He's spoken of in the banned books section of the Twit archives: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. That's where I met Him before the way. He's still there. And, it seems, from what I've read, it didn't take long after the first coups of Heefner and Doop (not quite my time yet) for the fabric to begin to fray. Anyway, Grace, thank you. Boy, I sailed away on that one.

Hi Grace, Yes, it was WRITTEN. And, my belief, having been a hometown boy with Chip, a little time at WVU with him, and knowing his reputation for "smarts," is that he was the "brains" behind this operation. Penworks, DWBH, and others know that no credits were ever given to anyone. EVER. Just some "aid." Chip left I think around 1980, was 6th, and went onto get his PhD in Humanities and started a teaching career. It was 1995 or so that I spoke with him again, and though he was seriously stunned and shocked that I was "still thinking about that junk??!!", he graciously filled me in on a few things. For those who care to know, he had started a young family by that time, and was happy.

I don't know, Twinky. But, a good guess is someone here knows more about all that. LOL.

Thanks, Skyrider. I found it years ago by Oral, and boy, he was good. I've been catching up on threads, and not only do I like the divergent views, I am glad to see it here among all of us.....most of the time...lol.

And maybe Christopher Watkins? Family. And, I heard the same story...Pentagon encloses Pentagram. Five Ministries surround and hem in dat debbil, and LOL, dem debbil spurts! Hah.

I helped with JCOP in the summer of 1978 in Gunnison. It was a Family Camp, and the theme or whatever was something like, "The Last Week of Jesus Christs' Life." I guess 100 plus of us? I recall vpw there of course, Walter?, but for sure Chip Stansbrry. Chip was my Twig coor. What we did every morning and afternoon was have twigs just for study. We spread all around the grounds. 2 or 3 casual hours each time, all week. Each twig did the same. We simply read through all the gospels line byline AFTER, in my case, Chip taught us Passover, the days, customs, and so on. He made sure we had it. That was the first morning session. The start and end of the Hebrew days, and so on. Timelines. It was meticulous work. THEN, We started at John 12:1...6 days before Passover. We used that verse as our "origin." Chip gave us some work sheets broken into days, and we used it for our timelines witht he verse, and so on. We proceeded through the other areas verse by verse, word by word at times, comparing similar, and sometimes not identical, records or passages/ verses at the same time, carefully watching our timelines, and Chip would ask our opinions on how we were reading it: Did we consider this? What about this? Did we have anything to add? And, we usually did, and Chip would look at you and listen, nod his head, and scribble it down in his notes. We met under the cottonwood trees in lawn chairs. Most of the twigs did. 10 twigs? It was FUN! Sweet. After that week was up, never heard anything until it was published. Pretty much what we all saw. I am not confident in a couple of areas, 6 denials of Peter for one, but Chip was OK with it years later when i had an opportunity to speak with him. Me? I don't know. That week was my inspiration to go into the corps, and I did. It's the only twit book I have. I tossed mine with everything else back around '87. Then ten years later I had a question and needed that book. I said, "WTF?!" and got a copy from ebay. LOL

Thanks to all, once again. I stopped puking last night. I had wondered about Mark Gluckin. Always liked Mark. He did have everything ever done up there. And, Nashville makes sense as I know a few folks who seemed to gravitate to Nashville back in the 80's and 90's. That clears all this up. I have searched at times for other sites but never saw this one. There were papers in there by an Anth@ny Gilm@re, too. By the years maybe 14th corpse. I didn't know, but at one time Nashville was well known for it binderies....maybe still. One Nashville follower who stayed in the EX-TWIt circle (11th Corps who was in A/V with Smiling Joe the Colt for years, and with Mark) was a big vpw devotee. He owned(s) a small publishing/ bookbinding Biz in the 90's and '00's there. As the Digital age of publishing dawned the company would have had to somehow "morph" to digital. The fella' used to read all those idiotic one liners over morning coffee, write Op-Eds to the local paper with the TWIt angle. There was a Sunday 10:30 held at J H!lls house, Family corpse, with the Sing Along the Way and collaterals and everything. Yay? Yechhh! This is circa 2004. I guess Nashville was a hot spot for lots'a reasons. Musicians, too, huh? This archiving is going full tilt as some uploads are 2018, and all this material, some only heard about by me, and so many obscure and long ago forgotten items (Color Way Corpse brochure), points to someone at HQ for a LONG time. Mark certainly fits the bill for a source. Others, too, as DWBH noted. I forgot about the Craleys. Ok, that explains that. In all my journeys I never saw any inkling of those sites up there. Thanks for the insights. And, with all the software and capabilities these days, I don't think a "publishing" house is necessary, do you? Just the source materials.

I agree with everyone. Is that really Ol' Jurry there? huh. I recall the Nazi's at the Nuremberg trials, and how a US Military Prosecutor said that as they all were in the Courtroom, and the history of their Reich was being told, that those Officers smiled, smirked, looked at each other with looks that said, "Yes. Do you remember? Ah, those were the days." They stayed like that until the charges were read, photographic evidence shown, and they became stoic. No emotion. And, for the most part, closed mouthed, and unrepentant. I thought about all that junk in that link. Audios of The Holy Spirit class in 1967. Transcripts and records to 1955. That clever way corpse brochure....slick. The tiles of the teachings. The warm lovey dovey all-welcome atmosphere. ALL good. I contrast that with what was happening, from DWBH's accounts (thanks!), then, and in the 70's and 80's, especially the sexual abuse, and I clearly see what we had then was: A living white washed sepulchre. Just like He said. And some walked deep into that blackness. Ughhh. That's enough for me for a bit. Bye. Love

I bet! All new to me. Some of the stuff by an "An#ho#y G#lm#re. 1981. If you go up to "Eternally Blessed", one step up in the menu, all the SNS tapes, tons and tons, texts, transcriptions. Like someone with OCD, an Albert Speer type, has gone nuts. This cataloging has been occurring for year for years. I glanced over transcripts of KC Pillai going through Genesis, Exodus and Leviticus. Someone transcribed the tapes....how'd they get'em...where....typed up and all. There is a treasure trove there: junk to some, valuable to others. . Anyone who wants timelines and so on should look. Transcripts, pages and pages, of the UOL courses, some SNS, and on and on. Audios. It's crazy. Who would listen to tapes from 40 years ago and transcribe them and post them? Or even the Audios? The 16 page "Way Corps" brochure is on that first link....16 pages....color. No wonder I was hooked. So cozy. For Historians and Timeline seekers, et al: http://eternallyblessed.org/archive/ I get curious about this because in all my years I never knew it existed. Sorry if this is "old hat" to some of you.

I hardly post, and only started one topic, and it was a doozy. I was hesitant to post this link as it turned my stomach upside down, but this is the HOME page of Penworks' link to those Way Corps letters. I hit Home for the hell'uv eet, and this came up...blew my mind. https://sites.google.com/site/vpwierwille/ Or, am I behind the times? This is rough, and I'm a pretty old hand at this, so, caution. This guy has his f*ckin* Corps Notes from 1982 to 1984 typed. One piece was 247 pages! Non Corps- see what you missed!! All I was doing was exploring again.

Hah. I remember now- we had to call him Mr. F until he GOT ordained. THEN it was, of course, Rev F. 'Nuff said about him.

DWBH: Had any Drambuie, or other lubricant, been flowing in the Coach when those veins popped out and you were so Righteously tossed off? HAH! LOL. Really! He did that? Hadn't heard that one. I recalled the other day, during a contemplative moment, about the underlying Nazi control system in place. RalphD was right in calling VP "Der Fuhrer" and I shudder to think how I fell in line with it as a Storm Trooper in training...10th. I also recall, and feel, that my intro to this control was in 1974ish under the authoritarian reign of a fellow I shall call K**tF , 3rd. Our WV limb guy. Anonymous enough except to DWBH and Penworks, and maybe more. We had to stand up when he entered the room out of "respect for the Word of God that is inside me." Something like that. Very close to VPW. Then, a SNS tape called, never forget it, " The Way of Life or Death." In this wonderful teaching, a good joke in there, too, that I still tell, he erupted 3/4's way through because the ushers were still allowing folks to be seated in the BRC. Five minutes of Public Humiliation on the ushers, nasty butt chewing, then on everyone pretty much, for not having the respect for the Word that he had. Then off the stage in a self- justified anger, I suppose. No closing song on the tape. NICE! So, the elements for control, like the Nazis, were there as we know. And, yes, I did read "The Thirteenth Tribe" and who cares. The Myth book and the other I believe are sold by NeoNazi groups. Hard to find in those daze without an internet, perhaps? I do think I heard him say "...he pushed it too far at the end," too. Too young and green to know what he meant.

Yeah, DWBH. Truly.