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Randy, thanks for sharing, and Shift.... you, too. I understand your POV, Randy, but it would be different if you'd experienced some of the VERY "unloving" things that others experienced. You do make some good points, but I'd caution you about the "get over it" advice. You haven't walked in some of these folks' shoes. Shift, it's good to hear from an insider. Have they stopped imposing a ban on believers interacting with sites such as this? In the past, it was forbidden in no uncertain terms, if reports are true. Love and blessing, Dan

it's all good, Pen... It is About the Way, too. My personal sin in involvement with the Way was an acceptance of another man's paradigm in regard to the Word, the Lord, and all. It sounded good to me.... an honest approach to the Word, but after many years, I realized that Jesus Christ was in fact NOT MY LORD. Dang! And that I didn't know the FIRST THING about the Christian life... nor the Second, which is like unto it. God is gracious; apparently, He hasn't given up on me!

(((((((((wrds))))))))))) I knew this before, but we are kindred spirits! bfh, I'm enjoying your quotes. Thank you!

worth repeating and TrustAndObey... good additional comments. As for me, I'm surprised this is not in Doctrinal... but maybe I'm just looking at it that way because of my POV. In my view, "all Scripture" does not refer to the whole Bible, but the OT. That is not to say that what was later to be accepted as the NT could not fit this context, with the information in that context applying very nicely to the writings of Paul, Peter, John, Jude, et al. There's that interesting verse in Peter, which speaks of Paul's writings, and comparing to the Scriptures... Here's an alternate question: To what does "the word of God" refer in the following verse? By the way, the phrase "the word of God" occurs 45 times in the KJV. Interesting reading. The Bible being "the word of God" is only part of the answer. Yes, I do believe it is. But it is quite clear to me that my understanding of the Bible is a result of God speakING (present tense) in my reading of it (or of anyone else.) I reject the "biblical research" paradigm that implies that a dispassionate, scientific/logical reading of the Scriptures leads one to Truth. God Himself (Jesus and "the Holy Spirit" included by way of that Unity, and the fact that Jesus Christ is Lord) has to bring light to this old heart. I believe the process of reading and understanding the Scriptures is not that much different from the way in which they were originally inspired! edited to add bold, and this notice..... snuk snuk

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(((((((((( psalmie and you other posters ))))))))))))) I love you all

1979? no way!

I hope more of your "new-agers" will share. Penguin, your post was delightful. So happy for you! thanks, Lindy, for starting it

methinks you may be right!

Lots of good comments, above. As others have said, as Mommy, so much will depend on you, and you have obviously been doing your best, with Isaac's interests in mind. You will have my prayers, as well. I used to "not believe" in certain mental or emotional disabilities, myself, and in some ways it hindered me from being a better parent /friend / brother, but there is a ditch on the other side of the road, as well. For example, when we label and write-off people in various ways. My sense is that your term "learning difference" is a healthy and sound one. I have friends with a two year old who is very different from his brother, and it is not too strong a word to say he is profoundly less developed in certain areas than his brother was at that age. He's currently undergoing testing and will have someone visit the house for an hour each week to work with him and his mom to help him. Like Isaac, he's a marvelous child, adored by his parents and all who know him. But it's hard to deny that if things go as they have been, he will not be ready for school at the same age as the majority of kids. As our three daughters grew up, we homeschooled our younger two for a time. Ultimately, we realized we would have been better to have homeschooled our oldest, and sent the other two to public schools. (Hind sight!) The other two didn't do as well without the structure and feedback that traditional schools provided. We did see that after a while, but the oldest, who didn't respond well to being shoehorned through a program, probably would have done better being a round peg in a round hole. There are more than two options, here, and some of the posts may give you help in seeking an alternative, perhaps, that you've yet to think of. As I said, there were a lot of thoughtful posts, above. It warms my heart that one aspect of the GS community allows for this kind of sharing / exploration of difficulties. Sometimes our situations seem like such trainwrecks that we have to go to triage mode, and just make progress in the ways that seem most important, and leave other conditions alone for a while. I was in that mode for some time, and am still working on the remaining conditions! Suffice it to say, though, that my prayers will be for your husband's recovery as well. It can certainly be rough to be Dad and unemployed. If I can be of help in any way, feel free to PM me. So you're no longer in MD? You're in Georgia now?

well, Arizona, it's good that you saw things clearly long before others did, and left with your "thanks but no thanks." I'm not sure if I understand you, but you seem to be trying to lay some blame that seems to me to be misplaced. Ultimately, waking up from a nightmare is better sooner than later, and kudos, perhaps, to those who smell the coffee earlier. After your first post since your absence, I hope I can come to know you better in subsequent posts.

I have a lot of feelings about the interview.... listened to part last night, and the rest today. Thank you, Ralph, for sharing your perspective. It's still a journey for me, I guess, because all of our stories are intertwined, and there is and was so much hurt to go around. One of the strongest feelings I came away with initially is pathos for Ralph and his family, personally. I definitely felt your pain, brother, and I'm so glad you're in such an improved situation now, and grateful for you sharing with us. Along other lines, a re-affirmation of great lessons learned along the way (or I should say post-Way). Pride goeth before a fall. And a real biggie (and should be a no-brainer): Sexual sins are of the profoundest sort. Ironic that they should have gotten it precisely backwards: When the Word speaks of adultery, it almost always means "adultery" -- not as it was explained away by men of reprobate minds. ("spiritual adultery"). Fact is, they were totally blind that their actual, physical adulteries were themselves idolatry -- forsaking God Himself, turning from Him in the basest way. And they too, I have little doubt, receive recompense appropriate for the behavior which follows their hearts' conditions. Yeah, it's one of the Ten (no-longer-binding) Commandments, indeed! Very interesting perspective, as Ralph remembers it, of the feeling of needing to start all over, of trashing it all, and having to truly build a new foundation upon which something can truly stand. I believe (and I hope) many of us have felt that way. I surely have. But in my case, a large part of it was in recognition of my own failings, and how my beliefs/doctrine did not line up with realities. Lots more. Ralph, I do hope you do a follow up; and thanks, Paw, for giving him the mike.

steinbeck?

hemmingway?

cool

bump you added a clue, but I don't have one :huh:

Yeah, me too. Strange.... I read it in English class almost 40 years ago, and only then. But I can remember the story well. “For the love of God, Montresor!” carry on, George!

certainly around Shakespeare's time!

have no idea.... but interesting watching the Google ads on the page change to things like: "Stomach pain self-exam" "Causes of Abdominal Pain"

My first year WOW, 1974, I did not have a vehicle. In a city with 28 WOWs (Little Rock, AR) we had maybe 8 vehicles. One of them was a '65 mustang that was so rusty that the tail lights had fallen into the trunk, and had to be taped back up. You had to ride around, winter or summer, with all the windows rolled down to keep from being asphyxiated (as one of us at the time said, riding in that thing was exhausting!)

LOL that doesn't earn you a turn.... Wrds' quote is up!

who wrote Teenage Ninja Turtles? :blink:

i'm getting an education here

seems like a back-handed compliment to me!

waysider..... funny! One I had to pass on. My recent trip to Mexico confirms the claims made in this important Public Service Announcement. WG.... too funny! Oh to be young again..... nah!