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  1. Oh? You mean the Steve and Meg Longley at whose wedding I officiated? The Meg Longley that lived with my family and I in one of the trailers at HQ for a year? That Steve Longley had something to do with that bogus non-Research Dept.? Bwaaaahahahaha! Now THAT’S funny! If he’s some kind of “example” for you, you’re understanding of the Bible is quite limited imho.
  2. Hey Raf! Your insight on the cone of uncertainty for Flo would be much appreciated. I just watched Batshit Pat Robertson rebuke the storm in da name of Geeezus, and I’d like to see how much Geeezus listens to him. Sure do appreciate it!
  3. C’mon Taxidev! You’ve been here long enough by now, to know that these whited sepulchers not only KNEW EVERYTHING dictor paul, da forehead, and every one of THEMSELVES DID, but also participated in them from the early 1970s until today AFAIK! Boob and Doody were thick as thieves with dictor and coward Allen back in the ECU days. They were both involved with the Putsch of March 1972 in HQ’s hostile takeover of The Way East. I know because I was THERE! Geer was the other cog in the putsch wheel. He made up the lies and false stories about the Heefners, the Perezs (Steve and Laurie) and all the leadership in NYC and Long Island, which were used by Moneyhands and coward allen and dictor, to cover up and smoothe over the hostile corporate takeover and rape of The Way East, a separate and independent 501(c)3 charitable corporation. Forts? Don’t even get me started. Horneys? Even worse! THEY ALL PIMPED FOR THE BOT AND THEMSELVES. And, just like every other splinter outfit, these morons either already have a good $$ stash stocked away from wealthy parents, or a good clientele of equally dysfunctional and disturbed brainwashed cultists who act as sugar daddies for these little whores just like John Lynn, Gerald Wrenn, Vince Finnegan, Doug Seed, SOWERS, and every other POS offshoot of the Mothercult in New Knoxville. They’re all moggies and mogettes! LOL! There is that certain requisite opulence which accompanies all those “gift ministries” dontchya know! These criminals pimped for dictor and the “trustees” from the early 1970s already. Then they pimped for da forehead and themselves. They paid for unwanted abortions by many of their sexual abuse victims. They stole millions of dollars from the faithful givers. They molested and raped hundreds upon hundreds of innocent women and girls! They drugged women to force themselves upon those women. They ordered the intimidation, harassment, and even physical violence against those who threatened them. They defamed, maligned, libeled, and slandered all who knew their M.O. They marked and avoided, isolated, financially decimated, abused and destroyed individuals, couples, and families without remorse or conscience. Many were alcoholics and guilty of domestic violence. Just about ALL of them were adulterers, liars, and thieves. They gave willfully false counsel and bore purposely false witness against innocents! Believers committed suicide because of their “counseling” practices and lockbox extortions! They ran a fraudulent criminal enterprise. That’s all they know how to do. They’ve been doing it for 46 years! They ain’t gonna stop now!!! LOL! The TRUTH only hurts those who oppose it or deny it. If these facts “hurt” you Taxidev, it may be that “inner man” urging you to lighten up on some of that possible (though well-meaning) denial of the truth shared here at the GSC. The RnR televangelists are as rotten as that tree they fed and watered for 46 years in Ohio. Dead tree. Rotten fruit. Lake of fire material, not “bema time”! Selah and Godspeed Taxidev.
  4. Her last name now, is Astley. She lives in Colorado and she’s on FB.
  5. Hi At A Loss! i am so sorry for the insane and totally unnecessary havoc wreaked upon your lives by the ignorant bigotry of moron wayfers. Greg Lewis was a loser before he was in the 7th corpse, and as usual, the corpse made him into an even bigger asshole and bigot! I knew him back then, and the fact that he was ever a limp coordinator ANYWHERE, let alone CA, proves how utterly and pathetically void of anything near “leadership” TWIt has been since 1986! The fact that an ignorant, talent-less, dumbass below average schlepp like Lewis would be assigned as anything above chair-stringer is yet more proof of the utter dearth of normal human beings in any nook and cranny of wayworld. LOL! If you were not so far away in miles, I would suggest you sue the shit out of them for kidnapping your grandson and estranging him from his father and paternal grandparents. That is illegal unless adjudicated by a court of law. Expensive yes! Maybe even prohibitively so. But, you do have the right to do so. Money may be the biggest hindrance. Whatever happens, DO NOT accept one ounce of bullshit from these morons. They are insane and immoral. They are a danger to the mental and physical well-being of your grandson. There are numerous effective anti-cult groups that may be able to assist you. But I warn you, anything less than cold-hearted JUSTICE will not help you. You must be tough as nails if you want access to your grandson. This is a child custody and child welfare issue. Don’t quit! You’ll win! Godspeed to you and your family! P.S.....BTW, shiftthis is FOS. If he’s still stuck on waybrain stupid the best thing you can do is ignore the identity confused adolescent stuck in the 1980s of TWIt idiocy and hypocrisy. LOL!
  6. No problem Wolfie! I was directing no personal animus toward you. I seem to have developed a reflexive response when questioned about facts which I know to be true. My “sources” were afforded me mainly through serendipity. Just happened to be in the right or wrong place at the right time! LOL! I apologize for coming off as angry or gruff................peace.
  7. I was told the information I posted by a very close and personal friend of Mrs. Wierwille who also was on her personal staff. I believed that person then and still do today. If you wish to turn this into a he said/she said argument, I will not join in. I am quite secure in my statement. I don’t really care what other people think. Don’t mean to be haughty or off-putting about any of this. If you are offended I apologize for offending you. I just want you to know that what I posted is not a homespun fantasy. It is simply another cog in the wheel of wicked deeds that dictor suffered and then turned on the innocent with the vengeance and “maturity” of a petulant toddler. This person considered that s(he) was an “adopted child” of the Wierwille’s, just like Bill Maize. This witness grew up in New Knoxville with the Kipps and Wierwilles. The only other “adopted child” admitted by dic’n’ Dotsie was Bill Maize. I know that this witness is true. Everything this witness said was corroborated by Dee Fischbaugh, Dotsie’s sister and the Mayor Of New Knoxville when I was in-Rez corpse. It was also corroborated by Lydia and Sevilla Wierwille and Alford Kipp, Dotsie’s brother. Also corroborated by Dotsie’s older brother who was also an ordained clergyman of the Evangelical and Reformed Church in Ohio. I had lengthy conversations about dic’n’Dotsie with ALL of them. I KNOW whereof I speak. YOU don’t! Thank you for reading.
  8. Tlc...... Your continued condescending arrogance to posts which disagree with your holiness and incredibly insightful PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of dictor paul’s private interpretation of B.G., Bullinger, Kenyon, Oral Roberts, Rufus Mosely, Rosalind Rinker, E. Stanley Jones, Dale Carnegie, Oswald Chambers, J.E.Stiles, Norman Vincent Peale, Glenn Clark, Starr Daley, etc., etc., etc. is really very sophomoric. Your “understanding” of scripture appears equally unreliable and full of confirmation bias for your hyperdispensationalist private interpretation of Bullinger and Welch, Darby and Schofield. Not one single “original thought”. Just another mindless repetition of the ridiculous private interpretation of ALL “scripture”. You are a helpless and hopeless Paulian. Christianity is a “different administration” for YOU. YOU ARE WRONG! Completely and ignorantly WRONG. You are a hapless sycophant of the world of those YOU agree with. Bwaaaahahahaha! I suggest YOU get over YOURself! We all have. LOL! You are an uneducated fool, and a follower of evil stupidity. Have a great day!
  9. I was told the information I posted by a very close and personal friend of Mrs. Wierwille who also was on her personal staff. I believed that person then and still do today. If you wish to turn this into a he said/she said argument, I will not join in. I am quite secure in my statement. I don’t really care what other people think. Don’t mean to be haughty or off putting about any of this. If you are offended I apologize for offending you. I just want you to know that what I posted is not a homespun fantasy. It is simply another cog in the wheel of wicked deeds that dictor suffered and then turned on the innocent with the vengeance and “maturity” of a petulant toddler.
  10. “I seriously doubt that few will ever uncover the reasons why wierwille roamed the grounds at night......” Well Sky, maybe it might have something to do with the FACT that little vp was molested by his mother from ages 2-5?? Could be, no??
  11. “Get a chart, get a life!” That’s the total summation of TLTF’s incredible KKKlass on the end times entitled “The End Times”. It’s got more bullshit and double-speak mumbo-jumbo in it than you’ll find anywhere else on Earth, plus it’s all in Wayspeak! A hyperdispensationalist’s dream as well as a guided tour through the private interpretation and interpolation necessary to believe any of this tripe is “god-breathed”. It even introduces an 8th “administration” which you never knew existed before. Maybe TLC can put this all together for us who don’t believe anything Paul wrote was “scripture”? If anyone can, “put it all together so it fits”, besides dictor Paul himself, I’m SURE TLC can do the job. Impress us pal.
  12. Thank you very much for your answers! Much appreciated. As is the perfect example of jargonized private interpretation. I suppose you’ll say you objectively and logically answered the questions. My only question is, in what language are you writing? LOL!
  13. Upon whom or what do YOU rely for your definitions or “perspective”, or “understanding” of “inspiration” and “revelation”? YOU say, “It’s not necessarily in what they look like, or in the effect either may have. In fact, on the outside, it's probably impossible to see any difference whatsoever. And making it even more difficult, I don't know that it's possible (nor necessary) to make any distinction from the inside (i.e., inside the mind of the person acting on it.) However, there can be - and are, at times - situations where there is "no guesswork" or mistake about which is which from the inside. In other words, I am fully persuaded that there are times when there is absolutely no uncertainty about something being known only by revelation. It is "as real" and "as sure as"... well, as much as the chin on your own face... or anything else that you'd never think to give so much as a second thought to the "reality" of it.” WHAT do “they look like”? WHAT are the “effects that either may have”? WHAT is the “difference” which is “impossible to see”, yet somehow visible to you? If it’s NOT “......possible (nor necessary) to make any distinction from the inside (i. e. inside the mind of the person acting on it.), than why make one? WHAT are those “situations where there is no ‘guesswork’ or mistake about which is which from the inside.”?? Do you sincerely expect serious, logical analysis of your complete vagaries based solely on YOUR claim to be “fully persuaded” that YOU’RE right? It seems to me rather presumptuous on your part to determine for others how real your “full persuasion” should be for all those others, simply because YOU have “no uncertainty” regarding what YOU determine to be “real”? Just asking.......see if you can come up with an answer beside another mindless ad hominem attack. LOL!
  14. Comes right down to the title of this Sub-topic.....”Questioning Faith”. Which, as TLC states above, is a completely unique, individual, and most personal decision for all who make it. “Perhaps one of the best reasons to take Paul's epistles as "the word of God" is rather succinctly stated in 1Thess.2:13. Because it "effectually worketh also in you that believe." In other words, it just plain works. Is that not proof enough that he was who he said he was, and that the authority for his epistles came from above?” Yes. Prove that Paul’s Epistles are god-breathed by quoting Paul from one of those Epistles he wrote? That makes it strictly a “matter of faith”.....you either believe Paul’s letters are scripture or you don’t. Well, I for one, don’t. TLC does. He demands “proof” from me, yet resorts to overt logical fallacy of using a false premise to prove a false hypothesis. Quoting itself to prove itself. At least there is a hint of tolerance in TLC’s last post, for the idea that others with different decisions of faith from his own, are not necessarily heretical cynics, gainsayers just out to subvert the flock with word-battles and vicious divisions. Perhaps they are equally as Christian as TLC or anyone else who purports to be one? Maybe................peace.
  15. Another wonderful post Skyrider....encouraging both critical thought and self-reflection. Your willingness to reveal your deepest personal “lens” view of experiences you witnessed or endured, without worrying about covering for your own naïveté at the time, due primarily to the vibrant idealism of youth at the time many of us got involved, is most admirable imho. I appreciate your honest insight and your reflection of TWIt “history” as you experienced it then, and as you understand it now, some 40 years later. I am far less “kind” to dictor paul than you are. From my own interpersonal interactions with dp, I don’t think he had near the cleverness you give him credit for, Sky. He was a spoiled little brat, sexually abused baby of an Aryan family of 8. His intellect was a C- at best throughout his academic career, when he wasn’t failing. He mastered one thing. Plagiarism. Vic was a charlatan from the beginning. But, he was just a small-time crappie in a huge pond of Elmer Gantrys in the 1940s who were looking to make a comfortable living and stay outta WWII. Plus, Adolph Ernst...his daddy...was a Nazi supporter in the German-American Bund founded by Lindbergh and Fritz Kuhn in 1936. Young dictor grew up in that racist, fascist environment, and they even spoke German in their home, before they learned English! So, dp’s “call to ministry” was nothing more than a fortunate turn of events which got him through a cheap Evangelical and Reformed seminary, and ordained as a clergyman in that denomination with his own church, St. Jacob’s in Payne, OH, as Skyrider has recorded. That began a bumbling, stumbling, rumbling, bull-in-a-China-shop romp through the Bible Belt Fundamentalist Jesus culture of the post-war Midwest. Quite a conservative area of the USA at that time. His entire Chimes Hour Youth Caravan “founding” of TWIt was just the beginning of his hustle. He saw what worked with kids, had a nice, steamy affair with Rosalind Rinker, and had his first child, a son, Donald Ernst. Then he got a promotion to a bigger, more important, better tithing E&R church in Van Wert, St. Peter’s. Got him out of Payne before his shenanigans could be uncovered, settled him into a comfortable, economically stable community with a built-in guaranteed flock to fleece. He was simply playing the denominational pastor game and really just wanted to be as big as his heroes, Oral Roberts and Billy Graham. At the AC at HQ in the sumner of 1972, dp said: “I’m not an Evangelist like Billy Graham, or Oral Roberts! I’m a teacher! I tried to reach out to them in the 50s to work together for the Lord. You know, when they pack ‘em into their tents and stadiums, get ‘em born again and then what?? Send them to ME! I’ll teach them the greatness of the accuracy of Gawd’s rightly divided word!” He said that right after he finished playing a tape of Oral Roberts’ preaching his famous 4th Man Sermon. Dic was just a greedy young ne’re-do-well from a hick German farm town in the middle of nowhere Ohio, who got outta the hard work of taking over daddy’s farm, or starting a business of his own like his brothers, by choosing the easy, well-respected con of Midwest clergyman, knocking up his HS sweetheart, and grabbing and groping his way through one small group of suckers after another. When he was lucky enough to stumble across folks like Peter J. Wade, David Anderson, John Somerville, Ken Klug, Walter Cummins, Jim Doop, Steve Heefner, and Donnie Fugit, it was THEIR gifts, abilities and enthusiasm that made dic’s class a hit, not dic’s personal presence. Often, his personal presence just caused trouble for everyone! He was a jerk in the opinion of many. Until those same men had the Bible ministry they loved stolen from them and brought under the iron fist of Herr Victor the First. The progress of dic’s new possession really took off when he got rid of his competition. He started the corpse in 1969 with Ken Klug in it, John Lynn, Pat Browning, Johnny Townsend, and couple of others. The famous Zero corpse. Started again in 1970 with the first corpse of 9, including 1 guy at ECU. Again, not really planned or thought through beyond the free-spirited idealism of young hippies who really believed ole Dic was teaching the word like it hadn’t been known since the 1st Century and there were miracles, signs, and wonders everywhere! Dic wanted a core group as disciplined and tough as the Marine Corps after the Zero corpse pooped out to get married and take care of other personal priorities. That’s why he loved ECU so much. John and Tim Somerville started the “work” at ECU. John volunteered for Vietnam Nam to prove the revelation and power manifestations to himself, and was truly a hero and esteemed warrior among his fellow Marines. Dic said if John could do all that for the Marines, why can’t I get people to do that for God and His word??! Why can’t God have a Marine Corps?? Hence, the concept of the way corpse was born. Again, no cleverly calculated, sinister, MLM plot. Just the continued outworking of one man’s pathology now gathering steam through a serendipitous cult of personality that was building around a completely incompetent, dumbass, perverted drunk. Imho, Dic had a lot less to do with building his cult than the first 5 corpses and the WOW program. It was those groups that most adored dictor, enjoyed the thrill and joy of genuine Christian revival when they first took that class thing, were free enough to just pick up and go wherever the man-o-gawd told them too. It was not dictor or the stupid class that got me into TWIt. It was my closest and most beloved friends. It was the power of miracles, signs, and wonders and no authoritarian control. As the money began pouring in, Harry and Vic figured they better invest it. Best investment?? REAL ESTATE! Emporia, Rome City, Gunnison, Limb homes in OH, IN, MI, NC, KS, CA, NY, all bought by TWIt in the early 70s. The Colleges, campuses, camps, limb homes, etc., were all money-laundering schemes that Dic and Harry stumbled into, which were then “perfected” by Howard and Don, and all the new early corpse grads flooding HQ and all the new “Root Locales” with millions of laundered abundant sharing dollars. The only names on ALL the deeds to those properties were those of TWIt trustees.....Harry Wierwille, Ermal Owens, dictor paul, Howard, Don, and da Forehead. That was it until the Allen lawsuit was settled. Whose names are on the remaining deeds?? Ohio? Gunnison? That’s when the real systemization of dic’s evil began imo. Dic himself was too dumb to do anything but drink and molest women while reading anyone else’s Bible teachings a couple of times a week in some quaint little midwestern hamlet in Ohio. He was a slick con. He knew the game. He was always on the prowl. He was clever, not intelligent. He was deceitful, and ambitious, not honest or humble. He was mentally ill....untreated, uncontrolled mental illness dysfunctionally working itself out since his teens. He was a charmer and manipulator, not by will, but by nature. No redeeming social value, spiritually empty, and intellectually vapid. So, though dictor paul was lucky enough to attract some very talented people into his sex/personality cult, I don’t give him credit for diabolically planning, thinking through, or conceiving what he eventually destroyed. Sadly, he used a lot of wonderful, smart, talented, authentically loving, idealistic young people, who loved Jesus and just wanted to do the right thing to pay for and fulfill his own hubris and lusts. A pimp and a whore and a bully. What a ministry!
  16. YES. Chew your own vomit. I’m sure you love it. LOL!
  17. I say everything Paul wrote was what Paul wrote. WHO determined Paul’s personal letters and writings as being “the god-breathed word of God”, or pure “revelation from Jesus”? Bullinger? Constantine? Walter Cronkite? Buddha? Mohammed? Brahma? Vishnu? Confucius? Moses? The Pope? Billy Graham? Kenny Copeland? Pat Robertson? Joyce Meyer? Which exactly, are the parts of the Pauline writings that you can prove to me are written by “revelation from Jesus Christ” to Saul of Tarsus? Who Canonized the books of the Bible? What were the criteria they used to determine what was god -breathed and what is man-breathed? What criteria do you use besides some man-breathed commentary, book, or theological theory? PFAL? How To Enjoy The Bible? The Companion Bible? Any one you choose is only as good as the private interpretation of it’s author. Your view of my “credibility” is equally as valid.
  18. For me, understanding quantum physics explains the genuine science behind the ability of the Risen Christ to be anywhere and everywhere He wants to be whenever He wants. No problem for me understanding that “miracles, signs, and wonders” are indeed “available” in the physical universe without any need to break or supercede “natural law”. E=MC2 is both a natural and spiritual truth. I am one who chooses to believe that God is as omni- as She chooses to be with absolutely NO limitations. That’s just me.
  19. Anti(against)-Christ. Indeed Chockful! Indeed.
  20. The abuse of classic logical fallacies is actually perpetrated by the hyperdispensationalists like Ethelbert and others, who frantically try to explain away their very own private interpretation of scripture by claiming ALL scripture is “god-breathed” and therefore inherently inerrant. They twist and twirl themselves through all sorts of logical fallacies to try and prove that what THEY THINK is the eternal perfection of all scripture, is indeed what God Himself thinks! LOL! How utterly absurd. Logical fallacies? Start with the FALSE PREMISE that dispensationalism is god-breathed. Not one shred of proof ANYWHERE other than in the illogical ramblings of 19th century linguistic technocrats attempting to validate their opinions as being equally “god-breathed” and/or “rightly divided”. Then, add in multiple abuse of the RED HERRING fallacy. State opinions as fact and offer zero evidence other than self-serving “alternative facts” rhetoric based on one logical fallacy after another. Get your counter pointers lost in the red herring rabbit holes arguing useless non-information about manufactured arguments. Then, let’s throw in a lot of STRAW MAN arguments, strewn across the desert of alternative facts these self-serving geniuses throw at REAL facts, textual and MS evidence that relies solely on 16th and 17th Century Critical Greek Texts and scholarship with only the limited materials available to them from Stephens Critical Greek Text Of 1550, and the “Royal Bible Translation” committee or whatever, which produced the 1611 AV, also known as the KJV. Again, IMO, to rely on 4-500 year old “textual research”, based upon compilation of the scant number of texts and MSS available to the small number of folks with the academic and scholastic training to translate them into 17th Century English is foolish at best. It is a grand effort in the futility of proving that “private interpretation” is god-breathed at it’s most fallacious core. The entire dispensationalism myth is based upon a FALSE PREMISE, built upon the RED HERRING that ALL scripture is god-breathed, and is inherently inerrant, and can be ”orthotomounta’d” according to the principles of “in the verse, in the context, used before”, scripture build-up and without private interpretation. LOL! What a jargonic joke! Totally made up and with ZERO textual or MS evidence. PI with an inventive caveat! LOL. The abject denial of facts, textual evidence, and volumes of critical evidence disproving any god-breathed “authenticity” of this man-made speculation would be laughable, were it not so insidiously false.
  21. Dispensationalism is a man-made, private interpretation of “ALL scripture”, DEAD doctrine, based upon early 19th century textual and critical evidence which relied completely upon the latest 16th century “research”! LOL! Can you determine to be any more willfully ignorant of fact and evidence, 80% of which was unknown prior to 1980??? Bwaaaaaaahahahaha!
  22. Hey Mark! great reading you again! Hiw’ve ya been and what are you up to these days??
  23. I have come to the place in my own life, where I do NOT see much value, if any, in constant word battles, and doctrinal disputes, and the uninterrupted history of division, in-fighting, and mutual persecution which seems to dominate the history of Christianity. I have come to the point where I prefer the Jefferson Bible to the KJV, and the rest of the versions based solely upon the Stephens Critical Greek Text Of 1550. That makes the versions based on Stephens as good as the scholarship and available MSS, texts, and translations in various languages and a large number of letters and writings which were considered “scripture” back in the First Century. Who determined what is now the widely accepted Canon Of The Scripture? Why are the Gospels of Mary, Thomas, James the brother of Jesus, and numerous other letters and “books” considered apocryphal?? Who made that decision? Why are the words of Paul in his wordy, Pharisaically trained, Sanhedrin approved, and numerous religious arguments considered to be “godbreathed” while the Gospel Of Mary, Jesus’ mother, the woman who carried The Word Made Flesh in her uterus for 9 months, and raised him from infancy for 20+ years along with Joseph, and knew all the most intimate details of his life, is not considered godbreathed? Who made that decision and WHO SAYS IT’S THE CORRECT ONE?? I assert that Paul’s writings and Epistles are no more godbreathed than all the books and letters in The Apocrypha. WHY should they be?? I don’t believe that most of paul’s writings and letters are godbreathed at all. Why are they any more godbreathed than Mary’s Epistles? Why is Luke’s Gospel okay but Thomas’ isn’t?? So, if I choose to ignore everything Paul wrote, what makes that choice less “correct” or “rightly divided” than to say that the 7 Church Epistles are the “apex of all revelation given TO the Church”? Pray tell! i believe Paul was an intelligent, confident “Pharisee of The Pharisees”, and a highly educated man of his time. He was obviously well-read, and well-trained as a “doctor of the law”, and a powerful voice on The Sanhedrin in Jerusalem for a number of years in the first half of the first century. He was also an accomplished orator and public speaker, spoke Hebrew, Latin, and Greek fluently, and was a man of means as well, able to take care of himself anywhere he went. BUT, I do not place his life, words, and works above those of my Lord and Savior AND Paul’s, Jesus Christ. I am a Christian, not a Paulian. I also think Paul was a misogynist, a strict religious bigot in the tradition of The Pharisees, social conservative, political reactionary, and a vengeful, mean-spirited guy who claims Jesus knocked him of his horse on the road to Damascus, got him healed at the hands of some guy on a street called Straight, wandered around the wilderness of Syria, Lebanon, and Judea, for 3-6 years getting spiritual and loading up on the new revelation of “the secret” no one before him, not even Jesus Hinself ever knew. I think he demanded the same respect and deference from the new Christians as he did from the Jews he used to rule over. Force of habit maybe, but still a pattern of religious authoritarianism imo. So, I don’t consider Paul of Tarsus as any more “spiritual” than any of the other first century Pharisees who claimed Jesus of Nazareth as their Lord! I think his writings are full of personal opinion, confirmation bias, private interpretation, and lotsa nice inspirational words regarding Jesus Christ and Christianity. Like Augustine, Origen, Aquinas, and numerous others, perhaps, or “just” another “church father” among the long line that started with Peter, James, and John, Paul was an influential disciple of Christ, but no more “head writer to the Church” than Luke, Matthew, John, or Mark. That’s my current position on old Paulie-Pooh! Interested to hear some considered counterpoint. Have at it!
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