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16 hours ago, Charity said:

I just found out that John Schoenheit also no longer teaches once saved/always saved.  In his REV bible, he writes a commentary for Ephesians 5:5 saying, 

"We must be careful to understand the relationship between sin, the ungodly lifestyle, and abandoning Christ to the extent that one forfeits their everlasting life. Everyone sins, and some people sin egregiously, but sin does not cause a person to forfeit their salvation. However, if a person ignores the commands of God and defies Him and lives an ungodly lifestyle, they are in danger of having their heart so hardened by sin that they go so far as to renounce their trust and belief in Christ, and at that point, they forfeit their everlasting life. A person gets born again by trusting Christ (Rom. 10:9), and they maintain their salvation by trusting in Christ (1 Pet. 1:5)."

Ephesians 5:5

I find his complete commentary on this verse to be questionable.  

He also does not believe "the orthodox depiction of a hell ruled by the devil where people suffer eternally" is based on Scripture. I'm about to listen to a video where he "explores what the Bible has to say about the destiny of the unsaved and explains the biblical depiction of 'hell.'"

What is the Destiny of the Unsaved?

If I get into either of these topics any further, it will be in the Doctrinal sub forum.  

Danger, sin, egregious sin, ungodly lifestyle, commands of God, hardened hearts, salvation maintenance, suffering, hell, ... Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to believe.  (tangled web = a complex, difficult, and confusing situation or thing)  :smilie_kool_aid:

Yeah, decided not to go down this rabbit hole again (rabbit hole = a bizarre, confusing, or nonsensical situation or environment, typically one from which it is difficult to extricate oneself)  :confused:

"What has been seen cannot be unseen, what has been learned cannot be unknown."  Cynthia Woolf.  :love3:

Entangle me once, shame on you...entangle me no more, shame be gone.  :dance:

I'll stop now.  :biglaugh:

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26 minutes ago, Charity said:

Danger, sin, egregious sin, ungodly lifestyle, commands of God, hardened hearts, salvation maintenance, suffering, hell, ... Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to believe.  (tangled web = a complex, difficult, and confusing situation or thing)  :smilie_kool_aid:

Yeah, decided not to go down this rabbit hole again (rabbit hole = a bizarre, confusing, or nonsensical situation or environment, typically one from which it is difficult to extricate oneself)  :confused:

"What has been seen cannot be unseen, what has been learned cannot be unknown."  Cynthia Woolf.  :love3:

Entangle me once, shame on you...entangle me no more, shame be gone.  :dance:

I'll stop now.  :biglaugh:

The antidote is quite simple: go to the confessional... make a thorough and honest confession, then the priest will absolve sins and you're back in the state of grace with God (in TWI terms... back "in fellowship with God").   As we know this differs from the TWI version.   But in Catholic and some other Christian traditions, a priest acts as a representative of Christ and is able to forgive sins.   This is not the priest's own power but a conferral of God's forgiveness through Christ.  The priest through the power given to the church acts as an instrument of God's mercy.      The practice stems from Jesus's giving authority to forgive sins to the Apostles, who passed this authority down through apostolic succession to priests.   In this manner, Catholics believe that when a priest absolves sins, it is ultimately God who forgives.   NOTE:  IMO, I consider this method more substantial and ultimately valid than simply asking God for forgiveness without a witness.

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22 hours ago, Charity said:

In his REV bible…

Want to know what the glove looks like, what it’s made of, how it fits? Want to know where in your imagination to look for that yet undiscovered manuscript? Want to know how to MAKE something fit that doesn’t fit?

There’s a Bible version for that.

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