I think that it is very mean...but NECESSARY! Child molesters themselves will tell you that they are never EVER *cured*.
Our neighbor when I was growing up in a upper middle class neighborhood, lived their for decades....was a child molester...too bad nobody put up pics of him to warn the parents.
It is mean and unfair, after you pay your debt....but there again....I guess ya just oughtta refrain from messing with the kids....
Nother thing, maybe when one considers the shame of having their pic up in public...and the whole world knowing your dirty little secret....it MIGHT just be enough to put the brakes on those unwholesom urges.
it could save a life of a little girl or little boy form being kidnapped, assaulted and sexxually tortured...which is what is is to them!....and being killed by burnng to death or strangulation.
lets see....emabarassment for the perp or the above....
IMHO: forgiveness is a matter of the heart between you and the Lord.
Actually when we forgive it allows the Lord to satisfy His sense of righteous judgment because our forgiveness puts the ball back into His court where it belongs.
Bible speaks of those in heaven looking for judgment upon those who beheaded them, etc.
quote:Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
I think people have an untrue idea of forgiveness, that it means no repurcussions for sin.
Forgiveness in no way implies allowing the sin to continue. Forgiveness prevents the soul-destroying spirit-quenching bitterness of sin to hurt you by calling God God and not yourself as god.
my opinion. (what I believe at this stage of my course of life.)
We had quite an interesting discussion in my abnormal psych class about this last week.
I think posting pics lulls folks into a false sense of security. Many times (as evidenced by the ongoing RC scandel) child molesters remain undiscovered, sometimes for their whole lives. Often times these people seek out and hold positions that place them in close contact with children (teachers, ministers, rec dept employees) and use their authority and implied power to silence or shame their victims. So to think that those three men (or women) are the only perps in the neighborhood is delusional.
Looking at it from a clinical pov many perps were themselves subjected to either sexual or physical abuse and are repeating the cycle. From this pov then it seems they are only *going as far as they were taught*.
From a clinical pov while there is no *cure* there are some new treatment options (mainly CBT) that show some results in ending the cycle of abuse and while this does not mitigate the crime they committed it does lend hope that this sickness can be stopped to one extent or another.
no one is lulled into a false sense of security here that is for sure.
I laugh because I tend to agree with the pictures on the door but then I think would an upper class town or a fancy subarb allow such noticable disgrace to be displayed?
I live in a rather working class red neck drinking town (small) but a neighboring community is four times the size and a much higher income base and they have no such notifications . THEY ARE THE ONES LULLED if you ask me.
We saw the dude the other day , and someone said that is HIM!!! omG.
dude has to watch his back constantly he has been assualted etc.
My teacher made a really big deal out of this, saying that most of us would be counseling pedophiles throughout their careers. She also said that statisticly there are more who do not act out with a child (fantasizing or stealing underwear) that commit the act.
and MJ I agree the other side of town would be prone to staying quiet about the problem, if not totally ignoring it.
My town is a trip . We have alot of rentals older homes and bars more bars than miles for sure. blue collar jobs industry and no new growth in over fifty years no room.
But as close as we all live we do not get away with to much without the neighbors knowing and telling hha I guess you have to know small towns to understand it.
we have seven group homes which place a large tax burden on us as we have alot of elderly . the big town fights and wins against having any . we have a tiny little police force which ride bikes yes two wheels and pedals haha . I love it .
the large town impress one another with large huge mansions and big money but do not want to know your name unless it puts more money in their pocket.
but this picture thing is killing me come on do we need this blaring as a reminder everyday ?
I think we all lost our pride or somhow got a very large dose of it along the way not sure which. it does make me laugh tho. it is so like my town to do this.
would YOU be embarrassed if your next door neighbor was on the store front window? with this info about him?
they paid the sentence the judge gave them after conviction do not ask me if it was enough or not .
one did seven years , one had sex with a 16 when he was 18 . what if it was you son or your brother in law or your child was the victim would you feel the same way?
some of these families came to this town directly from europe to start a new life.. this town has strong roots and very powerful families within the community for generations. yes it is an ethnic town. very.
MJ to answer your question we need to divid it in two.
Forgivness from God is up to that person and God.
When we sin here we are subject to mans law and Gods Law. I can get forgivness from God. Man does not always forgive. The punishment for their crime is for the rest of their life.
I can not forgive someone who has not sinned against me because I don't have the right.
Personally. If a person molests a child, well how slow and painful a death can we arrange. I don't want to release a child molester in this world.
well he was convicted of sexual abuse on a minor . legal age is 17 in this state. the girls mom moved away but the boys mom has alot of property here and ties so she must deal with this everyday from everyone. It doesnt say the ages of the teens involved or the names of the victims I happen to know the families involved but it does state the boys address as his mom"s she is very embarassed.
her son is still dating the girl. it was her father who pressed charges against him . I do not know I think it is true we need to know although an adult he was also very young and close to age to her.
I can forgive those who have not sinned agaist me ex 70's I just can not ask another to do it .
I fully realize that my opinion on this issue is in the minority. I apologize if it offends anyone here. I am a father and I do have a daughter.
As I understand things, before ‘modern times’, ladies were commonly married as very young teenagers. Out of our great diversity of cultures that we come from, many of them married off their young daughters when they began puberty. Some nations today still operate in this manner.
My understanding is that within our own nation such was very common up until the 1890’s. Some states still allow marriage starting at age 14. Remember Jerry Lee Lewis he broke no laws, in marrying his 14 year old second cousin.
I don’t believe that it is un-common, nor that it is un-natural for a man to be attracted to a teenage girl. I think it is a part of Our Creator’s plan and design.
Obviously sex outside of marriage is not decent and it is not in order. Sex outside of marriage does not allow for the common good of society. Ladies giving birth to children need support of greater families. I don’t think that single parents can easily survive. And it is an un-fair burden to place on anyone.
I don’t think that our focus should be on the age of the lady so much as on the fact that casual un-married sex is so common. I don’t think morals and ethics can truly be legislated, they need to be taught and shown by example.
All men watch the girls.
All “healthy red-blooded men” watch “healthy girls”.
Are they all temped the same? No. Do they all submit to that temptation? No.
Am I ‘capable’ of being a child-molester? I think it more prudent not to answer that question.
Are YOU ‘capable’ of being a child-molester? Is your husband?
I think that anyone who is honest with themselves knows the answer.
I see what High-school girls look like. You see it too.
When I turned 18, I was dating a younger girl. Had her parents wanted to, no doubt I could have easily been convicted of horrible felony crimes. I would likely still be rotting in a prison today.
Such did not happen and I did not continue the pattern of dating under-age girls. I thank my Creator that I saw the wisdom in only dating girls over 18.
When I retired from the Navy, I was offered a job teaching in high-schools. The Navy is willing to “certify” any 20+ year sailor as a high-school NROTC instructor. I could be working in a high-school now, teaching High-school kids the finer points of close-order drill and Military Science. [which is a good course and does give teens a sampling to be able to make good decisions if they want to enter the military as a career]. But I know myself. I know that greater wisdom would be for me to avoid such temptation.
Adultery is adultery. I don’t think that any one form of adultery should be treated worse than any other form. Should dirty old men [or presumably women] be able to commit adultery with teenage girls[or boys]? No, obviously not. But neither should our society encourage adultery in any other form.
To pick out one form of adultery and hold it as separate and a disease to mankind, is also wrong.
quote:would YOU be embarrassed if your next door neighbor was on the store front window? with this info about him?
Not for long I wouldn't. I would move pronto if I had any children, or if children visited!
I know that is right you would move to the higher class neighborhood next door where such things are never done( money or class what is the defining line for you?) or in the very least put on in a public display for all to read right Krystal ?
that is what herb and I spoke about when we talked about the ignoring or lulling one into a mind of safety in a neighborhood out of chosen ignorance on the subject.
no this silly town tends to share good news and bad all around town instead of leaving it up to what the neighbors may think good or bad , haha
Galen what a thought provoking post yes indeed teen girls can be such sluts!!! Im kidding but clearly every mother instills in her children right and wrong behaviour and always in the nick of time so no bad judgements can be made by those crazy risky ages hmmm? yeah and my cat would still love me if I ran out of food . I believe it all now.
to be married at what age varies from state to state even today some allow young teens to marry and in NY if a parent consents it goes to court and may be allowed.
that is not to be compared to being charged and convicted of sex with aminor child . marriage is NOT a LICENSE in the state to allow sex. In some states adulery is illegal and a person can be arrested as is sodomy illegal in some states sodomy is now legal in NY at this time again but many states still out law anal sex .still in spite of the heavy homo agenda in America to stop that law. without sodomy laws sex with a boy isnt rape or sexual abuse to the same degree it would be male on female . IN states with the sodomy laws still on the books male homo sex is breaking the law of the land and they can be arrested.
the legal age of consent is 17 in NY it does not matter if it was consentual or not if the girl is under 17 the guy is breaking the law and vice versa. How about that 6th grade teacher and that very young teen she went to jail lost all her kids and is out now they got married when she got out because he is of age now. hmm. they have a couple of children when he was only a young teen what a story there huh?
I know that is right you would move to the higher class neighborhood next door where such things are never done( money or class what is the defining line for you?) or in the very least put on in a public display for all to read right Krystal ?
that is what herb and I spoke about when we talked about the ignoring or lulling one into a mind of safety in a neighborhood out of chosen ignorance on the subject.
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I don't think money or class has anything to do with this. You seem to insinuate that poorer people or those in the middle/lower classes are being singled out as child molesters. And that once a molester is discovered you move to an upper class neighborhood. To me you seem to think people believe lower/middle class are molesters. And once someone finally 'realizes' this, they believe theirnly salvation is the upper neighborhoods? Am I way off base??..please correct me if I am wrong.
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I think posting pics lulls folks into a false sense of security. Many times (as evidenced by the ongoing RC scandel) child molesters remain undiscovered, sometimes for their whole lives. Often times these people seek out and hold positions that place them in close contact with children (teachers, ministers, rec dept employees) and use their authority and implied power to silence or shame their victims. So to think that those three men (or women) are the only perps in the neighborhood is delusional.
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If you go into any post office you will see the pictures of all kinds of criminals that are wanted. Does this mean that only those posted at the time are the only criminals at the time? Of course not and I don't think anyone is silly enough to think that way.
Just because a child molester' picture is posted does not mean people would think they are the only potential molester's in the area.
We need to be aware of these people so we can protect our children.
1. I think it is an absolute ourtrage to convict an 18 year old of a sex crime, publicly humilate him, and harm his chances for a decent future for consensual sex with a 16 year old.
2. If I had an honest to goodness pedophile (an adult who had sex with a child) living next door to me I would move too. Not because of money or social status or humliation, but because I would do everything possible to protect my children from the risk of becoming another victim. I'm fairly certain this is what Krys meant as well.
"Galen, does my memory serve that you are a 32nd Degree Mason?"
I am.
Though I do not follow what one has to do with the other. Would you be so kind to explain?
I am under obligation to never harm or take advantage if the wife, widow, child, or orphan of a fellow mason. If I see it about to happen, I am obligated to tell the mason to give him due notice.
But I think that I would likely do the same for anyone anywhere.
As far as accepting the responsibility to all daughters of masons as if they were my own daughters, I think it would be foolish to extend that to the general public.
Or are you alluding to the idea of keeping the 'secrets' of another mason? Within that ideal is “co-counseling” where I would also be giving advice: to spend time in prayer, to get therapy, to notify the police, to seek forgiveness from the victim, etc.
I think some think that way and that is just honest as some assume in a working class naighborhood we all drink and fight and gossip and are fat.
I do not think that and I think the illussionis getting smaller with 3 different childrens dr. going to prison for child porn and sexual abuse etc in this area in the last year.
BUT then why is a community with a higher tax base just next door and in fact so close one of the adresses of the convicted is closer to their school than this one. why would they not put the notice in a public place ?
shame? to keep the illusion of the neighborhood being somhow better cleaner and less troubled for sure.
In appearance anyway.
why do some do this and some not.
the criminals in the post office are wanted criminals . these are guys who have done there time and have moved into the neighborhood and are trying to live a "normal" life with their records and details of the crime and their current adress displayed. I think it is a little different .
Abi how do you know you do not have one next door? or at the school or at the dr's office?
As far as the 18 year he was convicted of sexual abuse (she had a baby dad was UPSET!) . they arrested him and he did jail time.
but it does state the ages of when the crime took place and dates they are older now of course.
the owner of this store is 93 years old and a true pillar in this community . If he didnt want it up there trust me it wouldnt be I think one of his grands is a cop on the force or something. He and his family founded this town etc. of course they still consider it a PUBLIC service . they used to just murder them . lol true tho .
Shellon no reason to get nervous or paranoid. of course we educate and I also like the idea of the pictures but it is a bit of a difference between the town next door and us. blaring acutaly.
They have 5 times the size we do in people. So I think it is probably there as well ya think?
but the fact is many have never nor will be convicted of a crime such as this , years go by if they are ever caught.
I have neighbor in an apartment house next door (yes we are a tight community with many staying for generations ) no one knows this family although they claim to have lived here before. it is a girl about nine dad and grandma . so they claim.
well behind them is a young couple with two small children. In the same building.
yes we kind of do get all the news about everyone here and like it so anyways the school told her this child has been enrolled in six 6 different school systems in TWO years.
she told me so I asked the older woman she said it was true they have moved from state to state alot for many years.
now I do not think they work this is NOT about a job transfer.
So young couple now harrases them , they walk by and young couple ask them WHERE IS THIS CHILDS MOM? ok ok I do not get involved in this but the young couple has a point what the heck ARE they doing they are NOT stable and certainly not community members.
why do they move so much? and they told me they are going to move again in a few months to another state. They looked them up and they found nothing but if they are running and not yet been convicted nothing would show up in the criminal files.
I sometimes think this is a type of witch hunt ya know I mean all up in their life, but then again I do not live in the same building with two small children....
what say ye? I think if a person has nothing to hide then lets all have at it which we all do trust me and we know the smell of humanity and folks, we truly do care about one another it is a lovely community. some think it is to small and nosy hmmmpff cant take the heat get out of the kitchen types.
I think we have safety in numbers and lots of "concern" lol for one another.
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I think that it is very mean...but NECESSARY! Child molesters themselves will tell you that they are never EVER *cured*.
Our neighbor when I was growing up in a upper middle class neighborhood, lived their for decades....was a child molester...too bad nobody put up pics of him to warn the parents.
It is mean and unfair, after you pay your debt....but there again....I guess ya just oughtta refrain from messing with the kids....
Nother thing, maybe when one considers the shame of having their pic up in public...and the whole world knowing your dirty little secret....it MIGHT just be enough to put the brakes on those unwholesom urges.
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it could save a life of a little girl or little boy form being kidnapped, assaulted and sexxually tortured...which is what is is to them!....and being killed by burnng to death or strangulation.
lets see....emabarassment for the perp or the above....
Ill emnbarrass the a**hole anyday!
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sheesh...where's the Grand Inquisitor when ya need him?
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IMHO: forgiveness is a matter of the heart between you and the Lord.
Actually when we forgive it allows the Lord to satisfy His sense of righteous judgment because our forgiveness puts the ball back into His court where it belongs.
Bible speaks of those in heaven looking for judgment upon those who beheaded them, etc.
I think people have an untrue idea of forgiveness, that it means no repurcussions for sin.Forgiveness in no way implies allowing the sin to continue. Forgiveness prevents the soul-destroying spirit-quenching bitterness of sin to hurt you by calling God God and not yourself as god.
my opinion. (what I believe at this stage of my course of life.)
Kit
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We had quite an interesting discussion in my abnormal psych class about this last week.
I think posting pics lulls folks into a false sense of security. Many times (as evidenced by the ongoing RC scandel) child molesters remain undiscovered, sometimes for their whole lives. Often times these people seek out and hold positions that place them in close contact with children (teachers, ministers, rec dept employees) and use their authority and implied power to silence or shame their victims. So to think that those three men (or women) are the only perps in the neighborhood is delusional.
Looking at it from a clinical pov many perps were themselves subjected to either sexual or physical abuse and are repeating the cycle. From this pov then it seems they are only *going as far as they were taught*.
From a clinical pov while there is no *cure* there are some new treatment options (mainly CBT) that show some results in ending the cycle of abuse and while this does not mitigate the crime they committed it does lend hope that this sickness can be stopped to one extent or another.
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no one is lulled into a false sense of security here that is for sure.
I laugh because I tend to agree with the pictures on the door but then I think would an upper class town or a fancy subarb allow such noticable disgrace to be displayed?
I live in a rather working class red neck drinking town (small) but a neighboring community is four times the size and a much higher income base and they have no such notifications . THEY ARE THE ONES LULLED if you ask me.
We saw the dude the other day , and someone said that is HIM!!! omG.
dude has to watch his back constantly he has been assualted etc.
to much. thanks for posting your opinion .
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how did they pay their sentence ?
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My teacher made a really big deal out of this, saying that most of us would be counseling pedophiles throughout their careers. She also said that statisticly there are more who do not act out with a child (fantasizing or stealing underwear) that commit the act.
and MJ I agree the other side of town would be prone to staying quiet about the problem, if not totally ignoring it.
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Exxie,
Interesting question indeed.
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My town is a trip . We have alot of rentals older homes and bars more bars than miles for sure. blue collar jobs industry and no new growth in over fifty years no room.
But as close as we all live we do not get away with to much without the neighbors knowing and telling hha I guess you have to know small towns to understand it.
we have seven group homes which place a large tax burden on us as we have alot of elderly . the big town fights and wins against having any . we have a tiny little police force which ride bikes yes two wheels and pedals haha . I love it .
the large town impress one another with large huge mansions and big money but do not want to know your name unless it puts more money in their pocket.
but this picture thing is killing me come on do we need this blaring as a reminder everyday ?
I think we all lost our pride or somhow got a very large dose of it along the way not sure which. it does make me laugh tho. it is so like my town to do this.
would YOU be embarrassed if your next door neighbor was on the store front window? with this info about him?
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they paid the sentence the judge gave them after conviction do not ask me if it was enough or not .
one did seven years , one had sex with a 16 when he was 18 . what if it was you son or your brother in law or your child was the victim would you feel the same way?
some of these families came to this town directly from europe to start a new life.. this town has strong roots and very powerful families within the community for generations. yes it is an ethnic town. very.
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Yeah! What Shell said.
Mj---In my opinion and 18 year old having sex with a 16 year old needs to be in a different category.
Most of us know what a child molester really means, really is.
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MJ to answer your question we need to divid it in two.
Forgivness from God is up to that person and God.
When we sin here we are subject to mans law and Gods Law. I can get forgivness from God. Man does not always forgive. The punishment for their crime is for the rest of their life.
I can not forgive someone who has not sinned against me because I don't have the right.
Personally. If a person molests a child, well how slow and painful a death can we arrange. I don't want to release a child molester in this world.
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well he was convicted of sexual abuse on a minor . legal age is 17 in this state. the girls mom moved away but the boys mom has alot of property here and ties so she must deal with this everyday from everyone. It doesnt say the ages of the teens involved or the names of the victims I happen to know the families involved but it does state the boys address as his mom"s she is very embarassed.
her son is still dating the girl. it was her father who pressed charges against him . I do not know I think it is true we need to know although an adult he was also very young and close to age to her.
I can forgive those who have not sinned agaist me ex 70's I just can not ask another to do it .
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I fully realize that my opinion on this issue is in the minority. I apologize if it offends anyone here. I am a father and I do have a daughter.
As I understand things, before ‘modern times’, ladies were commonly married as very young teenagers. Out of our great diversity of cultures that we come from, many of them married off their young daughters when they began puberty. Some nations today still operate in this manner.
My understanding is that within our own nation such was very common up until the 1890’s. Some states still allow marriage starting at age 14. Remember Jerry Lee Lewis he broke no laws, in marrying his 14 year old second cousin.
I don’t believe that it is un-common, nor that it is un-natural for a man to be attracted to a teenage girl. I think it is a part of Our Creator’s plan and design.
Obviously sex outside of marriage is not decent and it is not in order. Sex outside of marriage does not allow for the common good of society. Ladies giving birth to children need support of greater families. I don’t think that single parents can easily survive. And it is an un-fair burden to place on anyone.
I don’t think that our focus should be on the age of the lady so much as on the fact that casual un-married sex is so common. I don’t think morals and ethics can truly be legislated, they need to be taught and shown by example.
All men watch the girls.
All “healthy red-blooded men” watch “healthy girls”.
Are they all temped the same? No. Do they all submit to that temptation? No.
Am I ‘capable’ of being a child-molester? I think it more prudent not to answer that question.
Are YOU ‘capable’ of being a child-molester? Is your husband?
I think that anyone who is honest with themselves knows the answer.
I see what High-school girls look like. You see it too.
When I turned 18, I was dating a younger girl. Had her parents wanted to, no doubt I could have easily been convicted of horrible felony crimes. I would likely still be rotting in a prison today.
Such did not happen and I did not continue the pattern of dating under-age girls. I thank my Creator that I saw the wisdom in only dating girls over 18.
When I retired from the Navy, I was offered a job teaching in high-schools. The Navy is willing to “certify” any 20+ year sailor as a high-school NROTC instructor. I could be working in a high-school now, teaching High-school kids the finer points of close-order drill and Military Science. [which is a good course and does give teens a sampling to be able to make good decisions if they want to enter the military as a career]. But I know myself. I know that greater wisdom would be for me to avoid such temptation.
Adultery is adultery. I don’t think that any one form of adultery should be treated worse than any other form. Should dirty old men [or presumably women] be able to commit adultery with teenage girls[or boys]? No, obviously not. But neither should our society encourage adultery in any other form.
To pick out one form of adultery and hold it as separate and a disease to mankind, is also wrong.
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I know that is right you would move to the higher class neighborhood next door where such things are never done( money or class what is the defining line for you?) or in the very least put on in a public display for all to read right Krystal ?
that is what herb and I spoke about when we talked about the ignoring or lulling one into a mind of safety in a neighborhood out of chosen ignorance on the subject.
no this silly town tends to share good news and bad all around town instead of leaving it up to what the neighbors may think good or bad , haha
Galen what a thought provoking post yes indeed teen girls can be such sluts!!! Im kidding but clearly every mother instills in her children right and wrong behaviour and always in the nick of time so no bad judgements can be made by those crazy risky ages hmmm? yeah and my cat would still love me if I ran out of food . I believe it all now.
to be married at what age varies from state to state even today some allow young teens to marry and in NY if a parent consents it goes to court and may be allowed.
that is not to be compared to being charged and convicted of sex with aminor child . marriage is NOT a LICENSE in the state to allow sex. In some states adulery is illegal and a person can be arrested as is sodomy illegal in some states sodomy is now legal in NY at this time again but many states still out law anal sex .still in spite of the heavy homo agenda in America to stop that law. without sodomy laws sex with a boy isnt rape or sexual abuse to the same degree it would be male on female . IN states with the sodomy laws still on the books male homo sex is breaking the law of the land and they can be arrested.
the legal age of consent is 17 in NY it does not matter if it was consentual or not if the girl is under 17 the guy is breaking the law and vice versa. How about that 6th grade teacher and that very young teen she went to jail lost all her kids and is out now they got married when she got out because he is of age now. hmm. they have a couple of children when he was only a young teen what a story there huh?
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mj412 said:
I know that is right you would move to the higher class neighborhood next door where such things are never done( money or class what is the defining line for you?) or in the very least put on in a public display for all to read right Krystal ?
that is what herb and I spoke about when we talked about the ignoring or lulling one into a mind of safety in a neighborhood out of chosen ignorance on the subject.
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I don't think money or class has anything to do with this. You seem to insinuate that poorer people or those in the middle/lower classes are being singled out as child molesters. And that once a molester is discovered you move to an upper class neighborhood. To me you seem to think people believe lower/middle class are molesters. And once someone finally 'realizes' this, they believe theirnly salvation is the upper neighborhoods? Am I way off base??..please correct me if I am wrong.
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I think posting pics lulls folks into a false sense of security. Many times (as evidenced by the ongoing RC scandel) child molesters remain undiscovered, sometimes for their whole lives. Often times these people seek out and hold positions that place them in close contact with children (teachers, ministers, rec dept employees) and use their authority and implied power to silence or shame their victims. So to think that those three men (or women) are the only perps in the neighborhood is delusional.
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If you go into any post office you will see the pictures of all kinds of criminals that are wanted. Does this mean that only those posted at the time are the only criminals at the time? Of course not and I don't think anyone is silly enough to think that way.
Just because a child molester' picture is posted does not mean people would think they are the only potential molester's in the area.
We need to be aware of these people so we can protect our children.
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Abigail
1. I think it is an absolute ourtrage to convict an 18 year old of a sex crime, publicly humilate him, and harm his chances for a decent future for consensual sex with a 16 year old.
2. If I had an honest to goodness pedophile (an adult who had sex with a child) living next door to me I would move too. Not because of money or social status or humliation, but because I would do everything possible to protect my children from the risk of becoming another victim. I'm fairly certain this is what Krys meant as well.
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excathedra
why doesn't the one who had sex with a 16 yr old when they were 18, go to the store owner and talk
or maybe they don't need to since it seems everyone in the town knows everything anyway
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Galen
Shellon:
"Galen, does my memory serve that you are a 32nd Degree Mason?"
I am.
Though I do not follow what one has to do with the other. Would you be so kind to explain?
I am under obligation to never harm or take advantage if the wife, widow, child, or orphan of a fellow mason. If I see it about to happen, I am obligated to tell the mason to give him due notice.
But I think that I would likely do the same for anyone anywhere.
As far as accepting the responsibility to all daughters of masons as if they were my own daughters, I think it would be foolish to extend that to the general public.
Or are you alluding to the idea of keeping the 'secrets' of another mason? Within that ideal is “co-counseling” where I would also be giving advice: to spend time in prayer, to get therapy, to notify the police, to seek forgiveness from the victim, etc.
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mj412
stayed to long
I think some think that way and that is just honest as some assume in a working class naighborhood we all drink and fight and gossip and are fat.
I do not think that and I think the illussionis getting smaller with 3 different childrens dr. going to prison for child porn and sexual abuse etc in this area in the last year.
BUT then why is a community with a higher tax base just next door and in fact so close one of the adresses of the convicted is closer to their school than this one. why would they not put the notice in a public place ?
shame? to keep the illusion of the neighborhood being somhow better cleaner and less troubled for sure.
In appearance anyway.
why do some do this and some not.
the criminals in the post office are wanted criminals . these are guys who have done there time and have moved into the neighborhood and are trying to live a "normal" life with their records and details of the crime and their current adress displayed. I think it is a little different .
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mj412
Abi how do you know you do not have one next door? or at the school or at the dr's office?
As far as the 18 year he was convicted of sexual abuse (she had a baby dad was UPSET!) . they arrested him and he did jail time.
but it does state the ages of when the crime took place and dates they are older now of course.
the owner of this store is 93 years old and a true pillar in this community . If he didnt want it up there trust me it wouldnt be I think one of his grands is a cop on the force or something. He and his family founded this town etc. of course they still consider it a PUBLIC service . they used to just murder them . lol true tho .
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mj412
Shellon no reason to get nervous or paranoid. of course we educate and I also like the idea of the pictures but it is a bit of a difference between the town next door and us. blaring acutaly.
They have 5 times the size we do in people. So I think it is probably there as well ya think?
but the fact is many have never nor will be convicted of a crime such as this , years go by if they are ever caught.
I have neighbor in an apartment house next door (yes we are a tight community with many staying for generations ) no one knows this family although they claim to have lived here before. it is a girl about nine dad and grandma . so they claim.
well behind them is a young couple with two small children. In the same building.
yes we kind of do get all the news about everyone here and like it so anyways the school told her this child has been enrolled in six 6 different school systems in TWO years.
she told me so I asked the older woman she said it was true they have moved from state to state alot for many years.
now I do not think they work this is NOT about a job transfer.
So young couple now harrases them , they walk by and young couple ask them WHERE IS THIS CHILDS MOM? ok ok I do not get involved in this but the young couple has a point what the heck ARE they doing they are NOT stable and certainly not community members.
why do they move so much? and they told me they are going to move again in a few months to another state. They looked them up and they found nothing but if they are running and not yet been convicted nothing would show up in the criminal files.
I sometimes think this is a type of witch hunt ya know I mean all up in their life, but then again I do not live in the same building with two small children....
what say ye? I think if a person has nothing to hide then lets all have at it which we all do trust me and we know the smell of humanity and folks, we truly do care about one another it is a lovely community. some think it is to small and nosy hmmmpff cant take the heat get out of the kitchen types.
I think we have safety in numbers and lots of "concern" lol for one another.
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